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Upgraded hardware WinXP wont start

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by hellmaster, 2005/12/09.

  1. 2005/12/10
    mattman

    mattman Inactive Alumni

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    I would not be convinced that a temperature problem would cause "slowness ". I think it would cause freezes, BSODs, restarts, etc.

    The heatsink/fan does not seem to be the correct type for the processor (by the way, why didn't the CPU come with a corresponding heatsink/fan?)

    If overclocking is not an issue with selecting the HSF, consider noise. I thought 1 "sone" would be quite low, I read that it equates to 40dba which is the highest in that price-range at Directron.com (it also looks quite big/tall).
    Same price:
    http://shop.store.yahoo.com/directron/ht101jr.html
    can add second fan.
    Pretty:
    http://shop.store.yahoo.com/directron/cnps7000balcu.html

    Matt
     
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    robwhite

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    Sorry I was not clear, I meant an image of this machine before some hardware changes had been made.
     

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    hellmaster

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    The processor was an OEM processor and didnt come with a heatsink and fan.
     
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    mattman

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    Ah, OK, been a long time since I have looked at those. Just been getting the full "box" type.

    Matt
     
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    Arie

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    If the processor runs to hot, it will "clock down ". This thermal protection will slow the processor down if the temperatures reaches the thermal protection zone, or around 75 degrees C. If the processor senses these temps, it will under clock itself and drop the voltage feeding it to protect the circuitry.
     
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    mattman

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    Interesting, thanks Arie.

    I would monitor the temperatures in that case. Everest in my signature has a temperature readout. If checking in Everest seems to be a problem, there will be temperature readouts in the BIOS settings. Do a cold boot and check the temps in the BIOS/CMOS settings, run some applications, reboot and check again.

    Although I don't know that model of Pentium, I might think that temperatures in the 40*C area would be getting high.

    Matt
     
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    hellmaster

    hellmaster Inactive Thread Starter

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    it is a P4 3.2 northwood.

    I have been averaging mid to high 40's after running for a while. I am going to get a better heatsink and fan.

    After the XP repair install I can no longer open any Office programs. I am getting an error: "The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0150002). Click OK to terminate.

    I searched the net and found that it has to do with the repair of XP. And I should reinstall the service pack.

    After the repair install XP does not say that any SP's are installed. If I try to install either SP I get this error:
    "Setup could not verify the integrity of the file udate.inf. Make sure the crypotografic service is running on this computer. "

    I searched for this error also and found fixes. I followed teh steps and I can still NOT install the service packs.

    I am trying to aviod a format and complete reinstall. I have alot of files, data and programs that would have to be backed up. Some of which I dont even know if I still have a way of reinstalling them.
    If I have to do a complete reinstall what is the best way to make sure all my files and settings go back into the newly installed winXP?

    THANKS for all your help.
     
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    BillyBob Lifetime Subscription

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    Please remember now that I may be guessing because of the fact that I have not run into this problem yet. And I just gotta toss in some ideas from my own experience and that of a family member.

    Is this problem possibley all related right back to the mistake mentioned in the Original post ?

    The CPU temp being a bit high I think may show a possible case over being overworked. Which might be caused by the original mistake.

    I just used Everest to check and it shows my System temp as 37C and CPU 40C.

    A question for hellmaster

    When you finally did get the machine to boot to the CD had you powered down ( shut EVERYTHING down completely ) and restart to the CD or just do a Windows restart ?

    If just a Windows restart IT WILL NOT work properly. Too many things are in use and will not get overwritten properly. And just a Windows restart does not allow RAM to clear properly.

    BillyBob
     
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    hellmaster

    hellmaster Inactive Thread Starter

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    I dont think I completely shut down. I came to the conclusion that it was a bad cd. I got a cd from my friend and it booted to that one first try.

    The problem originated from me doing a new motherboard install and trying to boot to the old windows configuration. I didnt know at the time that all the hardware was logged and with new hardware windows would freak out.

    Thanks
     
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    BillyBob Lifetime Subscription

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    Wait to see what others have to say. But if that is the case then you might be able to shut down completely and reboot to the XP CD and do a repair install.

    I have done that once and it worked OK.

    Actaully I do not think you have anthing to loose since it appears that things do not work right anyway.

    oops !!
    I forgot about the above. Does that mean you have tried a Cold boot directly to the CD and did a repair install ?

    BillyBob
     
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    hellmaster

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    The not booting from the cd drive thing was that I had a bad cd. Tht problem is gone.
    I was able to do a repair install. Got xp to open, but there are other errors and xp is running reallyslow.
     

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