Continuing disappointment in FF/TB

I've tried just about everything I can think of including uninstalling and re-installing... upgrading and downgrading. I find that the time taken to launch both TB 1.0.7 and FF (either 1.0.7 or 1.5 rc3) is aggravatingly long. I don't remember having half the problems with NS 7.2 but I guess the so-called security problems mitigated against my keeping it (although I note that many continue to use it).

So... next question. What about the latest version of Mozilla? Since it is an integrated suite, should I expect things to operate more smoothly? Faster? Sort of along the lines of IE and OE (although I realize they won't be quite that fast due to the manner in which MS has tied these into the OS).

Thanks for any feedback (and no... I'm not trying to be hard to get along with and I'm not trying to diss FF/TB. For me... and I can only speak for myself, this has been my experience. Thanks.)

 

It seems that the startup time is a problem. I answered before, but this time, I checked all the browsers I had, but will have to add a caveat. Tabs and extentions slow down the loading of the programs I am using. So, I will give the number of extentions and tabs, along with the times. I don't know if any extention is slower to the loaded. I am using FasterFox in FF1.0.7 and 1.5rc3.
First programs with no tabs nor extentions:
Internet Explorer: 14 sec.
Kmeleon0.9(build upgraded to 1.7.12): 8 sec.
Mozilla1.7.12: 11 tabs and three extentions: time is hard to judge because one tab was held up by the Select User: 11-23 sec. depending on the that alert or not.
Firefox1.0.7:7 tabs and 9 extentions: 17 sec.
Firefox1.5rc3: 11tabs and 9 extentions: 23 sec.

The effect of tabs can be seen with NS7.2: three extentions, and
Profile A: 10 tabs:22 sec.
Profile B : 4 tabs: 11 sec.

I did not see anything negative about Thunderbird.
So, it is possible that FF is slower, even with help, but all the extras don't help.
Last addition: Netscape8.0.4: three extention, seven tabs: 55 sec.
And, the so-called lighting fast Opera8.5: 25 sec.

 

Have been running multiply groups of time tests past two days.
All FireFox 1.5 RC3.

Safe Mode --- Base average 2 seconds - Opening (1) Tab / Google Site.

Normal Mode --- Base Average 6 seconds - Opening (1) Tab / Google site.
33x Extensions - 11 Plugins - 2x Themes - running Littlefox.

 

So? Is it a problem?

 

So? Is it a problem?

Nope, just fine.

 

Dennis,
it is good to know. I was wondering what was James' problem.
You times are better than mine

 

Their will always be variables.
Firefox in Safe mode would standardize the test from a program view and loading just one TAB (preferable Google) which could be viewed as a standard.
Variables affecting loading of Safe Mode ....
Your computers processor speed, available memory, number of running processes, and configuration of your OS.
Internet connection ... Always variables here.
Computer configuration, router configuration along with type of connection (Dialup vs Broadband). Then their are good and bad days with connection quality irregardless of the connection type.

 

Dennis,
I am in complete agreement with you. I was responding to James, who seems to have had unusual problems.

 

I've dumped FF 1.0.7 and Deer Park Alpha 2 in favor of 1.5rc3, which is behaving well, with only a couple of instances of pages not rendering properly.

I open with a blank tab, because I never know where I will want to go first. I'm using the Windows Classic display, the default theme in FF, and ten extensions, one of which is the much-maligned (IMO) Tabbrowser Extensions. 1.5rc3 opens in two seconds on both my desktop and laptop computers. In Safe Mode it opens in one second. As I recall, 1.0.7 was much slower to open, but I don't have a time.

 

Jim ... Great minds think alike
I've dumped FF 1.0.7 and Deer Park Alpha 2 in favor of 1.5rc3 (I did the same).
much-maligned (IMO) Tabbrowser Extensions (Completely agree, would be lost without this extension).

 

Dennis ...

Because Piro hadn't updated TBE in quite awhile, and because so many good things were being said about TabMix Plus, I gave it a whirl a few weeks ago. I even got the author to make some changes (just for me ... they weren't included in the extension at that point) that brought TMP close (but not quite) to what I was used to with TBE. After struggling, and not succeeding, to make TMP look and act the way I wanted, I finally gave up and came back to TBE, which has never given me the slightest problem in the year or more that I've been using it.

 

Jim,
are you using any tabs? After doing many tests, I found out that the number of extentions does not seem to have any effect on the startup time, but Tabs do. And, I have been using a ridiculous number of Tabs, and that's a bad idea.

 

Westside ...

I use tabs all the time, but I open FF with a single blank tab. I don't see any point in opening with many tabs open, even if they're for sites you go to all the time ... that's what bookmarks are for.

 

You completely correct. It was just laziness on my part to keep them. Primarily, the Tabs are reminders to go there. I know that I will visit this website, so Tabs like this are not needed.

 

You've been waiting for me, haven't you, Westside!

I've dumped 1.0.7 and upgraded to 1.5rc3. I have five extensions that appear to be working. I do not use tabs when I open FF. I go to My Yahoo (a Start page I customized). It seems a little faster in opening than the other two versions I was using. I've not timed it (maybe I should try Fasterfox which appears to have a page timer).

All I have to go on is my subjective feeling... that FF opens more slowly than either Opera 9 or IE 6. Previously it was opening considerably slower but with this upgrade things have gotten somewhat better.

I may try Jim's idea... to open to a blank page and then navigate from there. We'll see how that goes.

 

James,
it is good to give some reply. The only reason why I pursued the matter is because others came up with useful suggestions.
As you may have noticed everyone else opened FF very quickly. May be it is my cable, and also the fact that I opened with too many tabs.
It is impossible to evaluate what is going on when the local conditions are different. The bookmarks file can also slow things down, as well as plugins. Of course, you said something about comparison with Netscape, I think.
To me, the only browser which loads more quickly than Firefox, is Kmeleon, but it has no Tabs, and minimal plugins and bookmarks.
Also some websites load more slowly than others. But, I, really, don't care to pursue this matter any further, but I learned something from Dennis and Jim.