Transfering information

I have read the posts about moving email,address book, and bookmarks from NS 7 to NS 4 to Outlook X-press to Outlook. I have backed up the mail files without the MSF extensions, copied all of the address book info to another location, and copied the bookmarks to the same location.

Outlook X-press imported the email. Tried to cut & paste (address book and bookmarks), but can't find the location to do so. I have the cut part, but can't find the location for the paste.
Also, need to know how to access the info put on a CD..what program to open with so I can read the emails at another time.

Am currently trying 3 different email programs (pop 3). They all want to download all of the emails stored on the server although I have tried the different settings to stop this.

My apologies if this is too much for one posting
Rob Allen

 

Am currently trying 3 different email programs (pop 3). They all want to download all of the emails stored on the server although I have tried the different settings to stop this.

Not sure what your preferences are.
Most email programs (POP) allow choices, but they have some limitaions.
For Thunderbird 1.0.7, go to ...
Tools
Account Settings
Server Settings
In the "Server Settings" check list, look for the phrase Leave Messages on Server. "Tick" this phrase and messages will not be "deleted" from email server after they have been downloaded to your computer.
My preference is to use a email client installed on my computer. With most ISP managed email servers, user has limited amount of storage for emails. This means I must download and delete messages (off of ISP email server) in one fashion or another. This also means I must take time to manage / backup this information if I feel it is important (which I do).
BUT ... their are other ways to managed, have backups without doing any of it yourself. If this is you preference, post back.

 

Rob,

Never, ever, try to cut or move anything, because if you don't know that it is going to be accepted where you want to put whatever, you have lost everything. Always try to copy, and if it does not work, it is no big deal.
Secondly, I don't know a thing about what OE does, but, in general, it is desirable to export the address book(s) as .ldif file(s). I don't know otherwise.
As for bookmarks, you have to realize that bookmarks are part of the browser, and not of mail. OE does not have bookmarks. You can import your bookmarks in IE, and, they are, probably already there.
As for your 3 accounts. Where is this going on? In Netscape and related programs, if you want to keep the messages on the server, Dennis L is correct.
But, I don't understand your problem. do you want to keep mail on server, and never look at it?
We will need to understand what you are trying to do and where.

 

Hi Dennis, I just loaded XP Pro to a new HD, and trying to get my email, address book, and bookmarks moved to the new HD. I have read the post's on this site and Ramona's site and learned the processes that are supposed to work. It call to go from NS 7+ to NS 4+ to OE to Outlook. Also mentions saving emails to a CD, but forgot to mention how to read them on the CD. In moving the address book I am told to save as different extension than what it is in the "Document and Setting" folder. Do I change this when I copy to a different location?
As to the server settings, I have them set to leave the emails on the server, at least for the moment. The problem being, I thought I had the program set to only download the 'New" email, not the whole lot of them. It wants to download all of the emails on the server, and I didn't want that.
Any and all help is greatly appreciated
Rob Allen

 

Please forgive, I meant to say copy and paste, not cut and paste. I have been told that it works as good as, even simpler, than importing. I just need to know how to get to the right place to paste the info. If it doesn't work, at least I know how to go back and undo.
Thank you for all of your help.
Rob Allen

 

Copy/Paste work with Netscape/Mozilla programs. Since the format is different, they will not work with other programs.
Are we talking about going from NS7 to NS4.x? Is so, the copy/paste is the only way to go, for Mail. Address books are a different format in 7.x than 4.x, and, besides they are best if saved, from the NS7.x addrress book, by exporting them as .ldif, or .txt file. That should be importable in OE.
The bookmarks are not an issue, at this point, but you may want to explain that part.

 

Are you moving these records to Outlook? If yes, sorry I can offer no assistance. I have never used any Microsoft email programs. It has been years since I used NS4, and before Netscape was sold off to AOL, I moved to Mozilla Suite. I then upgraded to Firefox about 2 release versions before 1.0 .. but Ramona, along with other skilled posters will get you past this problem.

Yes, this is the weakness of most POP email programs when using "Leave Messages on Server ". Generally when this option is used, more than (1) computer needs access to the same mail. It requires a "timing act" by all involved to each collect, then the last computer deleting messages off the server. When I bought my new computer, I set up email program, turned off "download new messages ". Stored backup email records on networked attached old computer. Pulled down the last new messages onto old computer, turn off it's "download new messages ". After moving mail to new computer, turned on "Download new messages. During the cut over .. it's all in the timing.
FOLLOWING INFO - general information / suggestions ......
When multiple computers require access to the same email and said computers prefer to use an "installed email client ", an IMAP account resolves all the issues. The email messages are not stored on the local computer(s), messages are stored on a shared data base, the "email server ". Any computer(s) using proper user name / password has access to this email. From within the email client (IMAP email account type) you view all of the messages. You can set up folders, filters, send mail and delete, just like a normal POP account (limited only by IMAP email server service). The luxury, you can access your mail from any computer (if no email client, use web interface) and you never have to backup.... as long as the IMAP account provider does his job correctly .
I keep a number of email "Profile" backups locally and stored on the web. In the near future I will start an by message automatic backup to my primary ISP mail account. My ISP (via web interface) offers an option to "send a copy of each received email" to any other email account. I will have this copy sent to a web based IMAP email server. I will sent up this IMAP account to be viewed in Thunderbird. I will set up folders and filters to managed the mail. With luck, when I click on the IMAP account in TB, the view will be identical to my POP account (except for manually deleted messages) stored on my computer.

 

I believe Westside has explained that you must export the NS 4 Address Book as an LDIF file in order to import it into OE. As for Bookmarks, not certain as, like Dennis L I don't have OE on my system, and have never used the program.

To access and read the messages on CD, I can only tell you how to accesss them in Netscape, which would be to copy them to the Mail Program, or to use this guideline: http://home.att.net/~cherokee67/archivemailcd.html

 

Ramona,
I have OE. It is a standalone program, which is tightly knit with Internet Explorer. It does not have Favorites of its own.

 

Westside,

Thanks, and that goes to show you how very little I know of IE/OE...