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FF 1.5 RC2 question

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    savagcl Geek Member Thread Starter

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    Where is the disk cache located under RC2?

    I've looked within FF folders, nothing there.
    A search showed several caches but none for the FF browser....


    thanks,
    savagcl
     
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    I should have posted first, because at this site there is no luxury to go back and see if there was anything extra in your original message. When I did that my message went bye-bye. Anyway, since you are not giving information about your operating system, I am not sure if you know where the profiles are. The Firefox Cache folder is located in the profile, like any other related program.
     

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    Clif ...

    I haven't looked at 1.5RC2 yet but, as Westside said, the Cache folder should be in your profile folder. FYI, if you set the cache to 0MB in Tools > Options > Privacy, the Cache folder can be deleted after closing FF. Did you do this at some point, by chance?

    Westside ...
    "...at this site there is no luxury to go back and see if there was anything extra in your original message. When I did that my message went bye-bye. "​
    If I understand you correctly, when you went back to the main thread page you were unable to refresh it without losing whatever you had written in your reply window, which is on a different page. Is that correct? I'm assuming that both pages were on the same tab.

    I'm using both 1.0.7 and Deer Park Alpha 2, and have no such problem with either. Anything written in a reply window is still there after refreshing the page with the thread.

    I usually open the reply window in a new tab, however, because it allows me to move back and forth between tabs without the need to scroll down the page to see the post I'm replying to.
     
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    sorry, OS is WinXP Home, SP2.

    I have looked in all my profiles (Firefox, Mozilla, and old version of netscape).
    The only one with a cache is netscape and it only has the Fat.db file in it.
    I even looked in the common files folder.

    My cache is set for 50megs and i have FF set to ask me to clear private data
    upon closing. Looking for the cache while FF is online, turns up nothing either.
    Even a WinXP Search dont show anything relating to the FFcache (on or off
    line).

    Strange! My profile(s) show no such folder. No luck in finding it yet.

    thanks,
    savagcl
     
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    To Clif. I know that you can select a different path for the Cache folder in NS and Mozilla. I can't find any such setting in FF.
    Any file with the .db extention must be in NS4.x. Do you know that the profiles are hidden in WinXP?

    To Bill,
    you diagnosed correctly my issue. I am using the same tab. But this is ok in 1.0.7, today, at least.
     
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    Westside ...

    The only one who ever calls me "Bill" is my former wife. Do you know something that I don't? :)
     
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    Sorry, Jim. This is what happens when you are afraid of going back, and have fixed things, so wisely pointed out to me. I am using too many browsers.
     
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    Yes, I know there are files that can be hidden. All my files/folders are
    viewable.

    The path to FF is: C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Application Data\
    Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\*******.default\ ---No Cache folder is present!

    The path to Mozilla is: C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Application Data\
    Mozilla\Profiles\savagcl\******.slt\ ---No Cache folder is present!

    For Netscape the path is: C:\Program Files\Netscape\Users\clif\Cache ---I
    almost never use netscape but keep it because of the multi-part download
    function (comes in handy for pulling mp3's from the music newsgroups).

    Are you seeing a Cache folder (assuming you are using the RC2 version)?

    thanks,
    savagcl
     
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    Clif,

    I do see a Cache folder in 1.5rc2, and all other Gecko browsers. 1.5rc2 has an option to clear Cache on Exit, have you by chance enabled that option:
    Tools | Options | Privacy | Cookies The Settings tab at the bottom of the window takes you to the Option.

    You also clear Private Data when you click on Tools | Options, Clear private data.
     
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    Hi Ramona,

    Thanks for replying.

    Yes, i have that option enabled and it works, i guess. Not being able to see
    (find) the cache to verify if it works is more of a bother than a real problem.
    Altho, it would be nice to see the cache folder.

    If i can impose - what all does "Privacy Data" include?

    As a note, I also use Adaware, CClean, RegCleaner, Reg Supreme, Spybot and
    Spyder to clean out the trash. So i "know" its being cleaned, just dont know
    where it is (or why doesn't it show).

    thanks,
    clif
     
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    This is more obscure than I thought. I am using a profile, specially, created for FF1.0.4, but it has worked fine Deer Part, and now the 1.5 majnifestations. I plead guilty of not checking, but, my profile has no Cache folder, with FF1.5rc2 closed or open.
    Whem all fails read the instructions. Right? There is absolutely nothing useful about it. The Privacy information is listed in Tools|Option|Privacy|Cache|Settings.
     
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    I use separate profiles for FF 1.0.7 and for Deer Park Alpha 2, with no cache folder in either. I have 24/7 cable internet, so don't feel that a cache is necessary.

    That said, I don't agree with Westside's statement that "There is absolutely nothing useful about it ". For the user on dial-up, the cache speeds up page opening, and when off-line, he/she still has access to pages recently looked at.
     
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    JSS3rd,
    I agree with you about needing a cache for dial-ups. I to, am on cable and the
    back arrow wouldn't be that fast (even with cable) unless the info was stored
    in the PC.

    So it still begs the question of where is it located? Memory, I doubt it. The
    page file, I doubt it. That information has to be held somewhere within a PC,
    the question is where.........

    thanks,
    savagcl

    PS: Whats the siginficance of the "3rd" in your callsign? 3rd generation? 3rd Inf
    Div?
     
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    regards "cache" location on 1.5rc2....
    OS = xp home sp1
    FF build id=2005110612


    Very odd and confusing indeed
    If you bring up "about:cache" it states that the disk cache is located at:
    C:\Documents and Settings\user\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\oxc5qy0q.testing_extension\Cache
    (pathe is MY pathe)
    Yet no such file shows there.
    However if I manually edit via "aboutconfig" (as I can find no other way to change the location in 1.5rc2) to another location eg D:\ff-cache
    The file is created there and shows as such...

    yes very odd indeed :confused:

    regards:captjlddavis
     
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    Jim (not Bill). My statement did not refer to the Cache folder.
    my statement was:" Whem all fails read the instructions. Right? There is absolutely nothing useful about it. "
    It should have been ...in them, i.e. the instructions. And, I should have had a new paragraph.
     
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    The path: C:\Documents and Settings\user\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\wrsyjdtd.Firefox1.04\Cache is unexpected. It is not in the usual profile path, but rather in Local Settings. The folder has the Cache folder and a xul.mfl file. Why this change.
    Should I want to make a change how do you do it? There is no entry of the kind in about:config
     
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    Clif ...
    "the back arrow wouldn't be that fast (even with cable) unless the info was stored in the PC. "​
    I don't think the almost instantaneous capability of the "back arrow" necessarily depends on a disk cache, since I don't use one. Initially, I thought it had to do with the browser's History file, which I maintain for five days and use frequently, rather than cluttering up my bookmarks. Now, after reading captjlddavis's post, I have another idea. See my response to his post, below.
    Re: JSS3rd ... I was named for my grandfather, who was named for his own grandfather, so I'm the third to bear the name. When I began using email I used JSSIII as a username, but it always came out jssiii, which no one understood. So, I switched to JSS3rd, and now it's my username everywhere ... I even have it on my license plates.​

    Cap'n Davis ...

    When I bring up "about:cache" in Deer Park Alpha 2 I get a page headed "Memory cache device ", whose URL is "about:cache?device=memory ", and which lists hundreds of entries. As I have 0 MB allotted to disk cache, it seems safe to assume that this hidden cache resides in memory.

    To check, I rebooted my laptop, opened Deer Park and immediately entered "about:cache" in the address bar. I was surprised to find 28 entries already listed, but every one of them had to do with the browser (which opens with a blank page) and its extensions. That's no longer true after any webpage is opened.
     
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    Westside - back to Original Question/problem.........

    Nice catch - dumb me did not READ the pathe correctly- and looked in the WRONG place...... :(

    As to why ? not a clue...might have to do with IE rendering or something.....

    As to HOW to change it

    The entry does not exist yet
    Create the directory that you want to use before you add the entry
    in my case I created D:\ff_cache first - you may not need to create first, but I did......

    1. Open about:config and select any entry that you want -
    2. Right click and select New = string

    3. Preference NAME =browser.cache.disk.parent_directory
    4. select OK
    5. in value=<location you want> (in my example value =D:\ff_cache)
    6. select OK

    If I did not mess up the steps, it should work.... :confused:
    But that is the idea....

    Again - nice catch....

    regards:captjlddavis
     
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    Good find for sure! Good going captjlddavis.
    Give yourself a "attaboy" for the day. :)

    Wonder why they moved it to that path? Maybe it will be replaced to the
    Firefox folder for the final release.

    Thanks for all the help everyone (now i can sleep tonight),
    savagcl
     
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    Clif,
    they want to keep us on our toes! And, thanks to the Capt.
     

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