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Discussion in 'PC Hardware' started by gghartman, 2005/10/03.

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    gghartman

    gghartman Inactive Thread Starter

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    this may sound like a dumb question but got to ask anyway. have a client with the smart sft giving message that youd better replace me quickly. so i told client to backup her data using the burner sft. but unable to get at it.

    so this is my question. is there such an adapter that can connect a laptops hard drive to a desktop ide cable so i can see if i can retrieve any data???
     
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    many thanks. if i read the pic right looks like one side is the 40 and the other side is the 44 and then the power connector. pretty simple. have you used before ???
     
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    Never had the chance to work on a laptop. Many people from other forums I belong to have used these to recover data when a laptop drive is going bad. You should be able to find these at most online or local computer stores. Good luck.
     
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    never seen at compusa and ive gone through most everything they have when i visit the big city.

    i again thank you.
     
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    Russ,
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    russ - i really like the usb link better than the adapter so thank you. plus looking at the adapter photo is not going to give me what i want. what i want is to hock the laptop h.d. to a secondary ide controller ribbon and this doenst look like it does that.

    http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=HD-108&cat=CBL


    now the usb link below will give me a drive through the usb cable.

    http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=USB2IDE-N&cat=CBL

    now if what i have said above is wrong please correct me.
     
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    The link http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=HD-108&cat=CBL does what you want to do. It lets your notebook drive hook up to your IDE cable in your computer. I only told you about the other USB to IDE as that is what I used along with the first adapter as I was to lazy to open my case to install the notebook drive. As I only wanted to get some files off the drive.
     
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    russ

    have tried 2 of the adapters and both have been defective. the black cable keeps falling out of the power connector. actually a piece of junk.

    now the usb connector you mentioned will it do what i want it to do. and that is be able to connect a notebook 40 pin h.d. to my desktop so i can copy data from it.
     
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    gghartman,
    Sorry you had problems with the 44 - 40 adapter. Notebook 2.5 drives I have have 44 pins. The USB adapter has 40 pins that fits into 3.5 hard drive. It also come with a power supply. That has to be plugged into the four pins that are for power on a IDE drive. That is why you need the 44 to 40 pins adapter. The adapter has the plug on it that the four pins power plugs into and turns the 44 pins to 40 pins. The USB to IDE plugs into the 40 pins on the 44 to 40 pin adapter. So the USB to IDE will not be able to connect to the notebook 2.5 drive just by it self.
     
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    yea, it just fell apart. the power cables were pushed completely out when i tried connecting to the power connector on my desktop.

    so i just tried to force the black and red cable into the power connector in my desktop and got an error when booting up that it couldnt find a bootable drive. had it attached to the middle ribbon of my primary drive.

    does it need to be on a ribbon all by itself ???
     
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    gghartman,
    It doesn't need to be by itself. When you had it on the same ribbon as your master drive make sure the notebook drive is set as slave and not to master. It should show on the hard drive how to set the jumper for master/slave. If not go to website of the drive and look up the drive. There they should show you how to set the jumper.
     
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    thank you. had to go to toshibas site to get where the jumper needs to be set for slave. will give that a try. if i can just force the black and red cable into the power connector of my desktop machine i wont even worry about a replacement.
     
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    now really confused. no matter how i connect things keep coming up with no boot media.

    have done master - slave, cable select - slave. same message all the time. so somehow the laptop h.d. is overriding the jumpers and i dont understand why. have flip flopped connection. you name it. am totally confused now.

    fortunately, have a backup from client from a couple weeks ago so they will have to recreate from that point forward. ****.
     
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    I do not have a answer for your problem. Hopefully someone will. The only other thing I would try is instead of putting the drive on the primary ribbon try it on the secondary ribbon.
     
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    I always suggest that when using an internal IDE adapter to connect a laptop drive you connect it all by itself to the secondary cable.
    Do not overlook that you must boot to bios and detect the drives after you alter the configuration.

    It also is really best if you are running XP to boot to a linux bootable cd to copy the data so that XP does not detect the other OS. Not a big problem if the laptop drive has win98 on it and you connnect it to a secondary line, but it can be a big problem if both have XP. Likewise if you do more than copy the data, while booted to XP it may alter the Master File Table on your boot drive and lead to later errors.

    I too would suggest a USB enclosure, they are cheap and worth a try.
    Another option would be to buy a new laptop drive and two converters. Then you install them both to your PC with one on Primary master , one secondary slave and boot not to one of these drives, but to a bootable drive install cd and clone from the old drive to new just as you would with a PC.
     

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