mozilla v.1.0 is out

Yes it is out. I am downloading it but the connection is vey slow. For your convenience:

http://www.mozilla.org/

 

And for further convenience...

Guide to Mozilla 1.0
http://www.mozilla.org/start/1.0/guide/

Release Notes
http://www.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla1.0/

Download
http://www.mozilla.org/releases/


tranquilo

 

Thanks Bluesky and Tranquilo

I really like the Skypilot Theme.

 

Hi sled,

Mozilla 1.0 is looking very stable, so far. I've only used it a few hours today, and a couple of hours last night, but I like the feel of it. More stable for my system than RC3?

Isn't the SkyPilot Theme cool? If anyone would like to see what the theme looks like, I put up a screen shot: SkyPilot.

Will you also use Mail & NG's? I'll be very interested in how that component has been improved, if at all.

This should make for an excellent Netscape 7.0 final, if... the Mail gets fixed!

Ramona

 

Mozilla 1.0 Catches the Attention of BBC

A very positive review done on the BBC website. Read all about it:

Browser war veteran comes of age

Ramona

 

re: mozilla

1. yah. I think skypilot is probably the most attractive theme I have seen. And there are a dozen of themes that you can choose from.

2. Another noteworthy feature of mozilla is you can select the search engine that is suitable for your surfing purpose. The default is netscape engine but I found mozilla.org faster with some sites.

3. Another good article on mozilla v.1.0:

http://www.cnet.com/software/0-3227...27884-8-20005816-1.arrow.3227884-8-20005816-2

 

Sorry, still using Netscape for my mail till I here some feedback. I have yet to notice any gliches. I guess time will tell.
Us poor dialup users need all the speed we can get and Mozilla is it for me.

Edit: Noticed a few pluggins I need at the Mozdev site so off I go.

 

I'm sorta in the same camp as Sled. Have 1.13 Mhz Celeron CPU, 256 MB Ram, Win Xp Home. Using NS 4.9; it's doing a good job. I've "disabled" IE and Zonealarm doesn't let it activate either.

It sounds like Moz 1.0 offers an improvement that competes quite well with the "closed" source browsers. So, now I'm interested. My needs are simple: single email client, moderate surfing around, etc.

Can I easily install Moz 1.0? Will it install along side of NS 4.79 without the two conflicting?
I want to be sure and keep my NS email capablilty. If Moz 1.0 Mail goofs up, I can revert to NS for the email.

Please help an old geezer make a more intelligent decision.

TIA,
GPa

 

You can easily install Mozilla 1.0. It will install and shouldn't interfere withe N4.79. I believe it will import your Netscape profiles, but I don't have Netscape installed at the moment to check. You will still be able to use both for email, allowing you to experiment with Mozilla's mail and still have your reliable Netscape mail.

Just make sure not to make Mozilla your default browser or default mail client until you are sure. Also, you can tell Mozilla to leave your mail on the server, allowing you to retrieve it later with Netscape (until you are certain about Mozilla's mail).


tranquilo

 

Hi GPaDavis,

Check out the Release Notes that tranquilo posted for us, and the Mozilla FAQ which will give you installation instructions.

Your Communicator 4.79 User Profile will be automatically transferred.

Enjoy!

Ramona

 

SkyPilot Theme Updated 6/7/02

I just happened on a thread in another Forum this morning, where the creator of the SkyPilot Theme states:

I posted an update last night that has a workaround to a nasty Serach Sidebar "hang" bug so if you didn't install it after 3AM PST then you may want to get the latest.

http://www.projectit.com/skypilot/#

FYI,

Ramona

 

You spoil me Ramona LOL

 

Mozilla 1.0 bombed for me!

I installed Mozilla 1.0 on my Win98SE system tonight, to see if I liked it better than Netscape 6.2. (I've used Netscape since its earliest days, updating beta after beta, usually every two to three months!) I hate to rain on your parade, but Mozilla 1.0 caused me nothing but headaches, neither running itself (except for once), and disabling my NS 6.2 installation on top of that!

The Mozilla installation appeared to run smoothly, unlike most NS installations, which have usually bombed on me, requiring the use of Norton WinDoctor to clean up after them, to tell NS where to find its own components (am I the only one to use hard drive D:?).

(The incremental upgrade system introduced a few years ago never even got through a download for me, forcing me back to downloading a fresh installation every time. Good thing I have a cable modem.) I keep my system clean, and do continual maintenance with WinDoctor (in manual mode).

OK, so they don't know how to write an installer. The Mozilla install apparently ran smoothly, though the system tray Quick Start icon did not appear, even though I chose that option and it showed up as in effect in my startup editor.

Out of probably 20 tries to start Mozilla, it started once, on maybe the 5th try. I did some customizing, quit it to make them effective, and could not get back in for the life of me, despite rebooting.

Nor could I get NS6.2 to start either at that point. It hung on the startup slide.

I uninstalled Mozilla. NS 6.2 still wouldn't start. I tried to download and reinstall NS 6.2. I got all the way through the download and then got a script error. So I uninstalled NS 6.2 and tried to reinstall it again. Same thing! And this was with all of my unloadable system tray icons unloaded!

Maybe you folks can't get Mozilla to crash. My experience with it is quite different.

Oh well, back to IE 5.5 SP2.

 

Welcome to the Forum

Sorry to hear about your bad experience with Mozilla 1.0. I wonder if you checked out Mozilla FAQ or the Release Notes before installing? Here is an important fact that you may not have known:

If you are planning to run Mozilla and Netscape 6 on the same computer, Mozilla and Netscape both use MOZVER.DAT (the file that stores your Profile data). You must use separate profile names to avoid conflicts!

If you didn't create a new profile for Mozilla, then this may be why Mozilla and Netscape failed to perform as expected.

Ramona

 

I'm not surprised

After making my post last night, I decided that maybe there was a conflict between Moz 1 and NS 6, so - since at that point neither was installed - I reinstalled Moz 1. It worked, except for a message on startup of a fatal error (which went away after a reboot).

One thing I had liked about NS 6 was the ability to access the AOL mail in the account I had set up at the request of my daughter, so I was surprised to see that account in the mail section of Moz 1, but it didn't actually work. I went to the Moz mail FAQ and saw that addressed: you'd see AOL mail accounts but couldn't get into them except with NS 6.

I tried again to reinstall NS 6 with the same script error (229) so I decided, what the hell, and installed NS 7 PR1. That went in without complaint and runs fine. It appears that the three of them share all customizations and cookies - which is why the AOL mail accounts show up, and NS 7 - but not NS 6 - appears to be based on the same code as Moz 1, though the About screen in NS 7 refers to Moz 5, which is a bit confusing.

One last question: one of the nicest shortcuts in the older versions of NS was the ability to type the middle of a URL and press Ctrl-Enter to have http://www and .com wrapped around it. IE copied that keyboard shortcut - and NS dropped it! That was not very bright on NS' and Moz' part, since it was the shortcut that most folks would use most often. Put it back!

 

PhilNick, I had the same experience when I tried to run Mozilla! I have Win95 and Netscape 4.79, and I downloaded and installed Mozilla 0.9x (for some rather late value of "x ", which I've managed to forget). It ran just once, at which time I tried to customize some of the settings (like putting in the name of my mail server), and then when I went to save the changes, it crashed. It never did run properly again, and would crash every time I tried to close it. It also munged my Netscape 4.79 - after I uninstalled and deleted Mozilla, I had to download a fresh copy of NS 4.79 and reinstall it.

I'm waiting to hear more reports about NS 7.x before I try it...

 

PhilNick,

One last question: one of the nicest shortcuts in the older versions of NS was the ability to type the middle of a URL and press Ctrl-Enter to have http://www and .com wrapped around it.

Works in both Mozilla 1.0 and Netscape 7.0 PR1??? You must not be holding your tongue right.

Check your Preferences to see if Location Bar Autocomplete is enabled:

Edit|Preferences|Navigator|Smart Browsing

Netscape 6.2.3 is based on Mozilla 0.9.4+, and Netscape 7.0 PR1 is based on Mozilla 1.0 RC2. I imagine that Netscape 7.0 Gold will no doubt be based on Mozilla 1.0 Gold.

Ramona

 

Tongue not in cheek

The "type-only-the-middle" trick came in back in the days of 16-bit Netscape Navigator running on Windows 3 and Trumpet Winsock, survived into early 32-bit Netscape Communicator, but then got abandoned by Netscape in favor of "Smart Browsing" i.e. "Let's do a search instead." The irony is that by the time NS dropped this keyboard shortcut, IE had adopted it!

Autocomplete is not a substitute, as it will only work if you've gone to that site in the past, and not erased your history for privacy's sake.

The point is that this "use it all the time to the point it's second-nature" technique was given to MS on a silver platter. Why?

 

PhilNick,

O.K., I see what you're talking about now, and you're right, it doesn't work!

Ramona

 

Credit to Mark Knipfer

For those of you who followed this link from the LangaList Newsletter
Excellent Reader-Recommended Mozilla Resource:

This quote:

"If you are planning to run Mozilla and Netscape 6 on the same computer, Mozilla and Netscape both use MOZVER.DAT (the file that stores your Profile data). You must use separate profile names to avoid conflicts! "

should be credited to Mark Knipfer's excellent Mozilla 1.0 and Netscape 7 Help and Tips web site:

http://techaholic.net/ns7.html

Ramona