ICS with Wife's PC

Hi,

I have a Dell 4600 with XPH SP2 and wife's machine is a Dell 4100 with WinME. I have a Cat5 crossover cable system connecting our machines using SIS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapters, one per machine. No hubs, routers, etc. The local Area Connection is up and running...no problems with LAN. I did have for a long time, ICS capability too. When I was online the wife could use hers online. Now it can't find the server. I have tried using the wizard several times, unsuccessfully, to re-establish ICS capability. Any advise? thanks!

 

Hi. In reading Norman_Law's post on Workgroups, just above this one, I used the tool provided by REGGIEB in response to Norman. Here is what the tool told me.
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ERROR NOTED

Computer 1
IP address is .../...
Subnet is 0.0.0.0
Subnet Broadcast address is 255.255.255.255
Node Number is 1.1.1.1

Computer 2
IP address is .../...
Subnet is 0.0.0.0
Subnet Broadcast address is 255.255.255.255
Node Number is 1.1.1.1

Both computers belong to the same subnet

Both computers have the same node number. This will cause a conflict when they are on the same subnet. Try changing the last octet of Computer 2's IP address from to 1

The subnet masks match
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Appreciate any help with this...how to proceed to change computer 2. Thanks!

 

It probably is a configuration issue but from the information you posted, it's hard to tell exactly what is set how.

On the XP PC, click on start->run->cmd and OK. From the cmd prompt
ipconfig /all > c:\config.txt
and then copy paste the contents of c:\config.txt to a reply here.

WinME lacks the ability to do that so from a start->run line, winipcfg and OK then get details. Write down all the information that matches what you got on XP. Don't mask/hide/change any of it.

Based on those two pieces of information, we can probably get you back in business pretty quickly.

 

Newt, here are the results.

XP Machine:

Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : CBUCKS

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 3:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-06-4F-05-2E-9B

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 2002:d862:5b45:4:3de4:730f:bb14:fbd9

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 2002:d862:5b45:4:206:4fff:fe05:2e9b

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0::4:206:4fff:fe05:2e9b%2

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::206:4fff:fe05:2e9b%4

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%2

fec0:0:0:ffff::2%2

fec0:0:0:ffff::3%2



PPP adapter ntelos2:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 216.98.91.69

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 216.98.91.69

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 209.145.84.131

216.12.0.20

NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled



Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 80-00-FB-ED-27-9D-A4-BA

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5445:5245:444f%5

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled



Tunnel adapter 6to4 Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 6to4 Tunneling Pseudo-Interface

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : D8-62-5B-45

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 2002:d862:5b45::d862:5b45

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 2002:836b:213c::836b:213c

2002:836b:213c:1:e0:8f08:f020:8

2002:c058:6301::

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1

fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1

fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1

NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled



Tunnel adapter Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : C0-A8-00-02

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.0.2%2

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%2

fec0:0:0:ffff::2%2

fec0:0:0:ffff::3%2

NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled



Tunnel adapter Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : D8-62-5B-45

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5efe:216.98.91.69%2

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1

fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1

fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1

NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Here are the WinME machine results:

IP Configuration
SIS NIC SISNIC
Adapter Address: 00-06-4f-05-2e-9c
IP Autoconfiguration Address: 169.254.168.118
Subnet Mask: 255.255.0.0
Host Name: Jackie
Node Type: Broadcast
DHCP Server: 255.255.255.255
Lease Obtained: 090805 8:20:29PM

Appreciate you!

 

That helps. Two issues and both are easily fixed.

XP on the SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter change the IP address to 192.168.0.1 since that is what ICS likes as the host IP. No particular reason except that the utility is written that way.

ME - change the adapter IP settings from Obtain an IP address automatically to Use the following IP address then
set the IP address to 192.168.0.11 (replace 11 with any number from 2 to 254 if you wish)
set the subnet mask to 255.255.255.0
set the gateway address to 192.168.0.1

You should now be good to go for network sharing, ICS modem sharing, whatever.

 

Thanks Newt. I'll try and find where to do that and repost maybe tomorrow.

 

Morning,

Been at it a long time...still not ICS'ing. On your latest input, you referred to changing the IP address on the Adapter card. I presume you meant on the TCP/IP... because nowhere can I find any place to do that on the SIS card.

On XP, I changed the IP Address on TCP/IP from 'auto' to manual and typed in the 192.168.0.1. Later, when trying to go online, it would not do so and the popup told me to reset it to 'auto' because that automatically enabled DHCP...etc. I then changed it back to 'auto' and was able to go online.

On ME, I set the TCP/IP items just as you show. Still doesn't work. I have also disabled, uninstalled the SIS cards on both machines and started over. I'm about ready to throw in the towel. I believe I will get new cards, remove everything from both PCs, and try getting it going from scratch. I appreciate your trying to help me. Cbuck from Bristol TN. Regards

 

Cbuck - sorry it didn't work right for you. My bad for not reading your ipconfig dump in enough detail.

Description . . : SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
IP Address. . . : 192.168.0.2
Default Gateway : 192.168.0.1

The default gateway address indicates something (probably your broadband modem) is using the 192.168.0.1 address already and my having you try to set your PC adapter to that same address was bound to cause a failure.

At this point, I'm not even real sure how you ever had ICS working in the first place. It may be smarter than I thought so with your PC set to the 192.168.0.2 address and your wife's machine set to 192.168.0.3 and using the 192.168.0.1 gateway, ICS might function.

My best suggestion to you even if you could get that working would be to buy a router/switch like the Linksys BEFSR41 or similar and turn off ICS. Plug the Linksys router/switch into your modem, plug both PCs into the switch portion of the Linksys device (you will need different cables though) and you are good to go. Both PCs have internet access even if the other PC is turned off and you have lots of protection from internet bad stuff that you don't have now. The PCs also have good access to each other. Cost is around $50.

 

Newt, I agree that is probably my best solution. I believe I have enough gear around the house...D-Link items that I can set it up this way. Straight cables I believe now rather than cross-overs. Once upon a time before I moved to the farm, I had DSL using the D-Link system. Don't have a broadband modem down here for sure. If what I have don't work, I will run by Circuit City or buy what I need online. I will check out the Linksys item you listed. Thanks again. Windows BBS is a great source of information plus excellent help. Regards

 

Hmmmmm. I noted that all those routers etc., were for either DSL/Cable highband hookups. Will they still work with dialup telephone systems??? I know the phoneline connector to the wall plug and to the modem is standard phone line size...or would that stay the same and only the larger cables would be hooked from NIC cards from both computers to the router. I guess what I'm asking is if this will work, where I am on dialup connection and using standard phone cable to connect with my modem. Thanks!

 

Cbuck - nope. The router piece is designed for broadband. I figured you had it based on that gateway address.

The IPV6 entries in your Ipconfig are confusing matters here, I think, and you certainly don't need them. You got that as part of an XP service pack.

Get rid of it using the method from http://www.microsoft.com/resources/.../all/proddocs/en-us/sag_ip_v6_pro_remove.mspx and post another ipconfig /all after it is gone.

 

Hi Newt. I rather thought I would have problems setting that up but then I am using the 10/100MB Sis NIC cards setting up the LAN, which uses the larger cat5 crossover cables for connecting these two machines. So I thought there might be away of doing it. I will check out the MS Resources site and see what I need to do. Then get back with a new IPCONFIG later on. Thanks!

 

http://www.alwaysonwireless.com/wiflyer.html

There are several like this, normally they are to provide an emergency backup option for company networks which have broadband, but can't afford total isolation in the event it goes down.
Here are some more

http://www.b2net.co.uk/multitech/multitech_routefinder_dialup_router.htm


http://www.dcbnet.com/datasheet/ip6600ds.html

 

Newt... I removedthe IPv6 without a problem. On rerun of ipconfig all, here is what I get now. Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : CBUCKS
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 4:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnect
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-06-4F-05-2E-9B

I have the Host IP Address setup as 192-168-0-1 with subnet mask at 255-255-255-0. On the Client computer, the IP Address is 192-168-0-5; subnet mask is 255-255-255-0 and the Gateway is 192-168-0-1.

Since removing the IPv6, the above config.txt remains the same. I have made complete restarts 3 or 4 times since your last post, and nothing works. I don't know what it means by "MEDIA DISCONNECTED" up there... both cards are in place, cat5 cables connected, plus little green LED light is shining next to each cable connection. I run the Network Wizard setup and in each case, at finish...it says I am now networked. I went out to the workshop and brought in a sledgehammer. Thanks Newt.

Oshwyn, I will check out those URLs right after I post this. I appreciate it.

 

Oshwyn... I checked out all those places and for sure, I like the WiFlyer... the first item you listed. I am currently in contact with them on a couple of questions. Me thinks I will probably go that route. Thanks a bunch. Regards

 

Howdy,

Regarding the URL posted by Oshwyn (a few posts ago)http://www.alwaysonwireless.com/wiflyer.html I did order the "WiFLYER" from that company plus ordered two Linksys wireless 802.11b PCI cards for the computers. Can anyone here venture to say, in using this system, whether I can completely scrap all existing hardware/software from my two machines with respect to Networking and Internet Connections and start over?

I would like to physically remove current modems from computers, NIC cards, etc., and remove any trace of software and then, begin the begeen. This wiflyer has it's own modem, for either highband or dialup, etc. So can a new network be setup between the two machines using these wireless PCI cards.
Anyone familiar with WiFlyer?

I have been back and forth with emails to their product mgr about numerous things and finally addressed this request to him...several days ago with no response yet.

Thanks!

 

Precisely. YOu no longer will need dial up modems in either machine, and you can uninstall all the ICS.
When you set up the wiflyer router, it will tell you how to change your TCP/IP setup to obtain IP automatically from the router (no more specifying IP etc) .

I would say, read the setup book when you get the wiflyer (or see if they have a PDF manual you can download in advance and read) and then ask if you have questions.

 

Thanks Pete. That's the way I had it figured, or at least, the method I intended to proceed with this. They do have a user manual and I have scanned through it some using PDF. I know that it is on the CD that accompanies the wiflyer. In nearly all that I read, it would make references to the current wired LAN but according to the email help from WIFLYER, I no longer needed that. So will wait and see and if I need help, I will yell. Thanks!

 

Hi,

As of about one hour ago, using the wireless NICs and the WiFLYER, along with my dialup mode, I am posting this note to let you know that all went well. Modems and wired NIC cards are out of both computers... now using only the two Linksys 11b wireless cards and the WiFLYER, both computers are now online with excellent results. On and off by simply touching a button available on the wiflyer. Again I appreciate Oshwyn posting that URL for me and I'm well satisfied. Thanks all!