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Nero 6.3.1.17 image question

Discussion in 'Other PC Software' started by savagcl, 2005/08/29.

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    savagcl Geek Member Thread Starter

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    WinXP Home, SP2

    I made an image of the "C" partition frm my HD using Windows Backup program.
    This image was created on an externalHD (USB2) and is 3.80Gig in size with an
    extension of ".bkf "

    When trying to use nero to write this image thru a Dual-Layer combo DVD and
    onto a normal DVD-RW (4.7 Gig). I get error msgs about:

    Using Data option, msg is: Sorry, file is greater than 2 Gig.
    Using Image option msg is: Unknown file extension

    Question - How can i get this backupfile.bkf written to the DVD-RW?

    thanks,
    savagcl
     
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    How large is the file? DOS based programs can read 2GB files. That apparently applies to Nero too. Ghost makes files that size already. Might try splitting the file into that size chunks with one of the old DOS utilities like split/merge, unless you're on NTFS :D.
     

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    sparrow,

    the file size is 3.80 and yes, i'm on NTFS.

    What i'm trying to do is create an image of the "C" partition (windows) and
    put it on a bootable DVD. Supposedly nero can do this but i have had no luck.

    thanks,
    savagcl
     
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    This has to do with the format system used for data cds and data dvds, it has a file limit of 2GB.

    I also do not think that windows backup if that is what you are referring to creates an "image file" which you can restore from a bootable DVD etc.
    What it does is check the files on your hard drive to see if they are marked for archiving and if so , it makes a backup copy. It cannot backup a file which is in use and does not worry about ones which are not marked for archiving.

    Likewise, it will not restore from other than within windows.

    To do what you want to do , you need to use Norton Ghost to make a Ghost Image file . It is capable of burning this directly to a DVD and making the dvd bootable and including Ghost to restore it.
     
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    oshwyn5,

    I'm sure some of what you say is correct.

    The 2GB limit came from Nero not the backup program itself.

    I think maybe the MS Backup program has been updated slightly from the
    older versions. For example, it will backup a complete HD or partition or just
    those files you want to backup. It also has the "shadow copy" feature to
    enable backing up those files that are open (in use).

    Granted, its not what i'd call an "image file" like other backups create and
    granted, it will not do a raw restore (i did manage to restore 1 but only after
    i had gotten so far in a windows re-install). The file i did restore was on an
    external (USB) HD.

    Nothing that mentions Norton or Symantec will ever reside on my system.
    Sorry, personal preference there.

    Thanks for the input,
    savagcl
     
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    oshwyn5,

    Thanks! those are new to me.

    I'll take a closer look, soonist.

    savagcl
     
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    The other thing I thought of is that the 2GB limit is a limit of the ISO9660 / Joliet format. Have you tried formatting UDF (Universal Data Format, like INCD) ? Yes you will have to copy the boot stuff manually .
    http://www.ccp14.ac.uk/ccp14admin/linux-server/iso_images_to_dvdram/


    Here is some more info on file systems of optical drives
    http://www.smart-projects.net/isobuster/help/noframes/hs160.htm

    Here are some more free ones to check out
    http://www.thefreecountry.com/utilities/backupandimage.shtml
     
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    I'm getting a headache from reading all that stuff.

    Re: Acronis True Image - This is what i normally would use (worked on old
    system) but new system has 64-bit addressing capability and Acronis TI wont
    work the 64-bit addresses. Acronis is working on an update to allow this but
    its not due out untill "sometime" this fall.

    Guess i'll have to wait and be careful in the mean time about not blowing up
    XP.

    thanks,
    savagcl
     
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    What about Norton "Ghost "

    What about Norton Ghost it will write directely to a cdr info Here and more info on how to use it Here try and get version 2003 if you can as it is the one i use and have had no problems with it.
     
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    alboy,

    reference above (29th August 2005 20:37).

    savagcl
     
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    Sorry what did i miss ?
     
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    "Nothing that mentions Norton or Symantec will ever reside on my system.
    Sorry, personal preference there. "

    You missed above extract from previous post.

    No problem, i cant count the number of things i miss on a daily basis. Mostly
    because i lose track after 1 million.. :)

    but, thanks for the interest,
    savagcl
     
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    Sorry must be be my old age creeping up on me
     
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    Follow up.

    I went and got Acronis 8.0 (latest build), installed it and did a backup of the
    "C" partition (thats all i need backed up, anything else i can re-install).

    Apparently, the 8.0 had no problems with 64-bit addressing since it ran and
    gave no errors. Even the image verify worked, and again, no errors.

    But thats only half of it. I'm trying to do a restore (different process just to
    make sure it will work right. Problem is that since its the "C" (windowsXp)
    partition i dont want to restore it to the original location (meaning if it dont
    work, windows is kaput). So i'm working with Acronis to see if i can restore
    the image to an external (USB) drive as a logical partition vs active. That
    way, i'll have proof it works and still have windowsXP operational. Of course
    the logical "test" partition will be deleted after the testing and verifying.

    savagcl
     

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