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Adding a Hard drive, XP Home

Discussion in 'PC Hardware' started by Moore, 2005/08/04.

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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff

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    Charles,

    The rack is "electrically" only two extension cords, one for the power and another for the 80-pin.

    This is strange ...... :confused: ...... all new (really new, no partitions) HDDs that I have added, in the rack or directly connected to the motherboard, have not shown up in Windows Explorer since they had no partitions defined. They only showed up in Device Manager as a device with all space free.

    BillyBob,

    You're giving us a historical perspective ...... :p ...... how it was when Win98 was new and a 50 GB harddisk was unheard of.

    FDISK is out of the picture since it doesn't report HDD sizes above ~64 GB correctly. A lot of confusion ...... ;) ...... !

    Use the partitioning and formating tool on the WinXP CD during the initial stages of the installation to create and format the primary partition. The balance on the master HDD and all space on additional HDDs can be formated from within Windows in Device Manager.

    WinXP RTM couldn't see the full capacitiy off HDDs larger than ~132 GB (can't remember the exact size limit). SP1 fixed that but I'm almost sure that there is a limit somewhere.

    Christer
     
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    Windows Explorer - didn't catch that. I don't know because I never bothered to look in explorer before formating.

    From what I remember, there is a drive letter in diskmgmt and that drive letter was D.

    Regards - Charles
     

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    I had to get outta here for awhile as I am baby sitting a 5 year old.

    OK. If FDSIK is out of the picture then it would have been useless ( or troublesome ) if I had tried to setup an 80gig HD.

    However I did not do that. As charlesvar did, I cloned a 40 gig. ( from my Wifes' machine ) And as he mentioned the partition sizes were adjusted to suit. It has 98SE on it at the time.
    I just plugged in the new HD.
    Booted to the Floppy and made sure it was seen properly.
    Ran Setup from D:\Win98.
    When finished all I had to do was update Video Drivers due to the different card. Other than that it was like it had always been here.

    Now mind you. All of the time I was doing this I had a xx$/hour professional telling me that it would not work. However since it did work he has done it several times since.

    Later on of course I did upgrade to XP Pro. BUT NOT UNTILL I had run the machine for a week or so to make sure to the best of my ability that there were no BUGS. There were a couple. Audio was one. Different SB cards. Driver update took care of that.

    OH ! One other item of interest maybe. All the while I was doing this my Wife VERY firmly informed me that I had better not S**** up her HD.

    And last but certainly NOT LEAST.
    This has been a VERY educational post.

    BillyBob
     
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    Moore

    Moore Inactive Thread Starter

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    In Disk Management, right-click the new HDD and create an extended partition, using all space.

    Within the extended partition, create three logical partitions with sizes of Your choice. Make sure that the final one will use all remaining space.

    You will be prompted to format each partition. I would put that on hold until all logical partitions have been created.


    Got along good ( I think) up to this point, using Christers list of instructions.
    I had the new hard drive show up in Disk Managememt as-
    Drv Volume (D:)
    57.27 GB NFTS
    Healthy (Active.)
    The (Active ) showed after I formatted it . Did I make a mistake by doing that?
    The choices I have after right clicking on the new volume are
    Open
    Explore
    Change drive letter and path
    Format ( which, as stated, I did!)
    Delete Partition
    Properties
    Help
    Now
    I`m at a loss as to how to "create an extended partition." Or, if that`s already done by formatting the drive, how doI "create three logical partitions "?
    I understand to use 20 GB on the first two and the remainder in #3.
    I read `em all,I think "help" tried to tell me but too much jargon I didn`t understand.
    I suspect the " change drive letters and path" is what I want but I just plain chickened out there.
    Afraid I`d mess things up!!
    The optical drives are at X and Y
     
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    Moore

    Moore Inactive Thread Starter

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    I may have found my problem. I went to the Maxtor website as per the instructions that came with my new drive, it gave me step by step instructions for XP and Disk management. I missed a step when I first opened Disk management, and didn`t click initialize Disk 1.Evidently it leads me by the hand so I can partition. I`ll delete my active partition and see if initialize doesn`t show back up. Probably tomorrow if I don`t hear different.
    Maxtor assumed I was Stupid and Christer didn`t. :)
     
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    jaylach

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    I run windows 2000, not XP but when I got my 120gig drive I set it up with fdisk with no problems. I did partition but the larger partition 95gig. Did it with a win 98 setup disk.
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff

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    Moore,
    it's been a while since I set up a brand new HDD and "initializing" escaped my memory ...... :eek: ...... sorry about that but as I remember it, a prompt to initialize should appear but I don't recall where and when. It seems like I need to build a new computer to refresh my memory and that will happen in a few weeks time, not for myself but for a friends daughter.

    What was the first graphic representation of the new HDD in Disk Management? Did it show up as D: but not formated? As I remember it, it should show up as all free space with no partitions.

    I don't think it will but in the right-click drop-down menu, You'll be able to create an extended partition as opposed to a primary partition. Take it from #4 in my initial post.

    Christer
     
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    Moore

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    Christer,
    No sweat.
    The first graphic was (D:Initialize) I was looking for something to show me how to create an extended partition so I didn`t click the initialize. I have formatted and partitioned before on other hard drives, so I assumed the format command would be like running fdisk, like jaylach posted, fat lot I new about it!!
    Here`s the Maxtor instructions;

    Install the hard drive and set the system BIOS to "Auto-Detect" the hard disk(s).

    Start Windows XP.

    Go to the "Control Panel ".

    Click on "Performance and Maintenance ", "Administrative Tools ", "Computer Management ", "Storage ", "Disk Management "

    In "Disk Management" you will see the active hard disks. Disk 0 is the Primary drive. Disk 1 and greater are considered secondary storage.

    If the description of Disk 1 is "Not Initialized" then you must right-click on the "Disk 1" icon and select "Initialize ".

    Select the disk to be initialized and select "Continue ".

    Next, right-click on "Unallocated" region of a basic disk, and then click "New Partition ".

    In the "New Partition Wizard ", click Next. Select the type of partition you want and follow all on-screen instructions.


    Of course I didn`t have these Maxtor instructions until the hard drive came in and it dawned on me that they had a help section.

    It looks to me like the Program Management feature in XP is a good deal, just have to get used to it.

    I`ve got some running around to do to day but no doubt I`ll be back.
     
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    Moore

    Moore Inactive Thread Starter

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    Piece `o cake!
    I deleted that partition I`d made by formatting, rebooted, and the graphic in Program Manager then came up with unallocated for drive 1, right clicked that and followed instructions.
    I now have C, D, E, F, hard drives.D ,E,and,F equally divided 20,20,and whatever was left.
    I changed the Cdrw and Cd Rom back to G and H respectively.
    Thanks to ALL hands!!!
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff

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    Good news, Moore ...... :) ...... and You're welcome!

    That's Your decision but it isn't necessary. I have my opticals permanently deported to X: and Y: respectively. They are out of the way for any number of added harddisks, partitions and USB-devices.

    Harddisks can be connected via USB but by "USB-devices ", I mean card readers and such. A friend of mine connected a USB card reader wich handles six different formats and he had six new drive letters thrown in among his fixed and removable harddisks. I believe that WinXP is smart enough to "remember" allocated drive letters (in the registry) and if he changes the "randomly" assigned drive letters to e.g. P: thru U: (six letters), WinXP will "remember" those letters each time he connects the card reader ...... :( ...... but I'm not 100% sure.

    Christer
     

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