New System - Moving Mozilla, Firefox & ZoneAlarm

Ramona, help please, this should be fun! A brain twister for wednesday!

Her's a tricky one.
OK, I bought a new system, same speed, same OS WinXP Home, sp2. updated
motherboard (D915G, intel) and technology. Major differences are having
on-board sound, display, and internet. On-board sound and display are
turned off (using plugin cards instead). Shortly, i will be turning off the
on-board internet and using a plug-in card also.

I have all of mozilla files and folders, all of firefox files and folders backed-up
from the previous system. Also have zone alarm backed-up from previous sys.
These backed-up versions worked fine (pages load fully and fast). Present
versions pages only load 90% most of the time. Very few pages load
completely the first time (occasionally, a page reload will work but most often
not). Problem is that last 10% is normally(?) where the auto-login is residing.

So, if i delete all the files\folders (but dont use the CP to remove from OS)
present and then copy all the files, folders from my backups, back to where
they belong (Docs-Settings, Pgm Files, Common) will this work? What
problems can i expect?
And if i do the same with Zone Alarm.....

Told you it would be fun......

 

You are a real troublemaker!
Let me tell you what I have been doing. I am starting with the assumption that nothing will work. So, I start by installing the programs. Then, if there is any data, to be used, I start by creating (a) new profile(s), to which I paste files which had been renamed to prevent overwriting. Some backed files can be imported, others can't.
What I am doing is not so straightforward, because I am using seven different, related programs, with their own profile, and, I may have anywhere from one to seven mail accounts. That's why I am careful, and, always expect trouble, especially with no programs. Using my technique, I have never had a major problem. I just don't believe that wholesale copy/pasting works.

 

Bottom line, no this won't work. For any program/application, you can't simply copy from the Program Files folder to another Program Files folder. You should uninstall, reboot and then install the program again.

You can copy Profiles data and replace the existing data, in
C:\Documents and Settings\user_name\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles.

Ramona

 

Westside,

Do you live on this website? I got a laugh out of your reply.
Believe me, thats not my goal in life (troublemaker).
Someone has to keep life interesting and what better way than to learn
something while your at it?

I can see you have your hands full, must have been a juggler in a past life!
I only have 1 mailbox, thats enough for me (and a lot less tracking to boot).

I realize that some massaging will be required, keeping it to a minimum would
help but i dont mind doing it if it gets pages to fully load (frustration factor).
And i agree, doing large copy/replace actions can/will introduce more problems
than they fix "most of the time ". Since i have the same identical versions now
loaded as the backups i have, i would think only some minor shuffling would be
required.........

If i could remember what i did before to get the pages to fully load then all
this would not be required.

thanks,
savagcl

 

Ramona,

Thanks for the insight. Was just hoping....

I'll try the profiles replacement. Since i dont know wherein the problem lies,
this wont hurt and just might help.

Thanks again,

 

Clif,

You trouble maker you, there is a little more involved. Take a look here for the real skinny: Moving the Same Profile to the Same OS.

Ramona

 

Ramona,

Ah, well, some are born, natural troublemakers, others have to work at it (I
do my best).

Thanks, Ramona, I knew you had some info on this.

Strangly, the copy\paste worked for Mozilla, Just had to paste in the
bookmarks and addresses plus a couple minor changes. FF didnt take at all,
just came up as a blank page but a re-install got it going again.

Darn pages still wont load fully. I've got to look elsewhere outside of browsers
for the problem. I'm like a dog with a bone sometimes, just wont let go until
its gone (or in this case fixed).

Appreciate it,

 

clif,

Have you done a spyware scan recently with AdAware, Spybot, or other anti-Spyware programs? If not then I would do that right away. If none is found, then try this:

Loading the same pages in IE, do they only partially load in IE?

Let us know.

Ramona

 

I have a Tab for this website, and I have seven different programs to check, so it is very easy to live here.

 

Ramona,

I run my spyware scans daily (almost). No problems found.

The pages load completely in IE. I tried 4/5 pages that normally will hang
using moz/ff and they all loaded fine (and fast) with IE??????

what gives?
savagcl

 

in addition to above.
I ran Highjackthis and found this:
O10 - Broken Internet access because of LSP provider 'imslsp.dll' missing

altho i have no problems getting connected.....

Note: Full log posted in forum "General Security "

clif

 

I found
this, which does not seem to have to do with your problem , unless you have MSN as ISP. Of course, I don't know where your problem is. Which pages?

 

Hi Westside,

Right, dont apply, I dont use MSN at all or messenger either (have it
disabled).

Just to name a couple sites.
http://www.moviepalace.net/
http://www.winamp.com/
http://www.comcast.net
http://www.windowsbbs.com

All the above, will load fine in IE so that kinda eliminates the connection
circuits. Seems to be more browser oriented. I have gone over all the
Mozilla/FF settings and dont see anything wrong.

Thanks for hanging in,
savagcl

 

clif,

Are you doing your daily maintenance:
Deleting the Cache folder
Deleting history.dat file
Deleting XUL.mfl file

If you use Quick Launch disable it and see if this makes a difference. Also, is your Java up to date? Latest Version is 1.5.0_04.

Delete the cookies for the sites that don't load completely using Cookie Manager, and see if that helps... Grasping at straws here.

Temporarily disable your Firewall... any change?

Ramona

 

So, WindowsBBS refused connection? It is acting differently in Moz1.7.10, although I did not try IE, to prove the point. Anyway, this is what I was going to post 30 min. ago.

I am not sure what is not loading. However, I do see differences between Mozilla1.7.10, Internet Explorer6, Firefox1.0.6, and Seamonkey alpha.
With Mozilla, all site open almostly, with exception of WindowsBBs which has a "read us.intellitext.com" or transferring data from it, in the bottom toolbar.
I don'yt know if it matters. I see the same with Seamonkey, but Seamokey is, also showing some loading in winamp.com. I checked IE with only windowsbbs and winamp, since the other two sites were loading completely and rapidly with the other browsers.
I am signed in with Mozilla and Seamonkey, so, I don't get the introductory Guest spiel which is seen in IE.
Having said this, what difference does is make? Earlier you said that some pages will hang. How, or where. I see differences, but I don't see any hanging.
There may be some differences with Winamp because it is AOL, after all, and they are not supporting FF for Music, yet.

 

Hi Clif,

Please pardon my popping in this late in the discussion but, except for a couple of posts on the 25th, I've been out of the BBS loop since the 15th.

It seems to me that you're just making trouble for yourself unnecessarily. I can understand wanting to retain Zone Alarm's Program Control settings, but I'm unable to discover where they're saved. Besides, ZA is so easy to configure that just jotting down a few settings (if you have them set to other than default) should make any need to transfer them unnecessary.

Because you use both Mozilla and Firefox, I'll go out on a limb and assume that you use FF as your browser, but Mozilla for email, which doesn't make much sense to me. Mozilla's browser is, basically, Firefox and, if you're using Mozilla just for email, why not use Thunderbird, instead?

I can understand multiple installations for Ramona, our resident expert, and for Westside, the "tester extraodinaire ", but (IMHO) most of us are better off without them. When I say that, please understand that I don't mean to seem insensitive to your problem, and I certainly am not telling you how to run your own computer.

As I've noted in numerous posts, neither FF nor TB needs to be "installed ", if you use the zipped version, and the user profile for each is easy to transport.

If I've misinterpreted your posts (or your intentions), could you please clarify them for me?

 

Jim,
I hope that Clif will listen to you. I called him, in jest, a troublemaker, but only to himself.

 

Hello Savagcl,
You bought a same speed computer but not a Mac?

As westside and Ramona mentioned, you will need to install each application one by one, then follow Ramona's Moving the Same Profile to the Same OS.

However, if you are really lazy, you can just remove the harddisk from your old computer and install it in the new one. (If you really do so, which I don't recommend, you will need to setup your Windows again for the different hardware, and might use another allowed hardware changes of your Windows XP license.) Once the Windows setup is done, you should be able to run all application you have. Again, this is possible, but not recommended. Remember to turn off the computer and unplug all cords (except the power cord) and removing and installing harddisk.

 

Morning Folks,

Ok, guess i'm a stickler for perfection but i've seen small ripples at 1 end of a
chain (end user) become completely unidentifiable at the other end
(management level). The trick is to take it with a smile and do a fix for it.

So to clarify the problem (and i'll grant, its not a show-stopper), i'm attaching
a few jpgs (hopefully). These jpg's show the "loading bar" of the browsers. One
is fully loaded (MoCorrct) and the others reflect the loading bar using Mozilla and
FF. The jpg's are id'ed by browser and webpage. Hope they all come out.

Meantime, i need to re-read this thread from the beginning to see where we
stand. Maybe i can make some more trouble!!!

Only 5 jpg can be uploaded at a time so i'll skip the rest.

savagcl

 

Meantime, i need to re-read this thread from the beginning to see where we
stand. Maybe i can make some more trouble!!!

Of course! Talking about the progress illustrated in your .jpg. I know that, but I don't see anything like that. It maybe the program, who knows!
All I see in the Status Bar, the bottom bar, in this case that there is: Transferring data from us.intellitext.com.... This never changes in several gecko browsers, and since it does nothing to the performance, I ignore it.
My attitude is is that IE should always be right, so, I never bother comparing any of the gecko browsers with IE. But, I get immense satisfaction, when IE does not perform. I, just found this yesterday. Yahoo Music is hard coded to open links in IE, and when it gave me a link about a certain performer, and opened IE, unrequested, and gave me a broken link, I copied the URL, and pasted in Seamonkey, the least likely candidate, and it worked.