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Noob Question about adding new clients

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  1. 2005/07/21
    jcrapps

    jcrapps Inactive Thread Starter

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    :confused: Hello, my first post here. I have just started picking up some concepts on Active Directory and DNS Servers. What I am trying to do right now is to assign static IPs for other client machines to use with a DNS Server that I set up. So if I understand correctly, the DNS is what will create the static IP, and then assign it for other computers to use. I dont want to use DHCP, so static IPs are what I want to use. After I'm able to assign a static IP, how can the client set their IP, Subnet Mask, Gateway, and DNS? Whenever I try to change the client IP from the client computer, it says that I don't have permission to change those properties.

    Here is my situation right now. Before, we had a department DNS server that resolved names for us. We wanted to be able to assign our own IP addressing scheme, so we chose to create our own DNS server in our lab. SO after I set up the new DNS for the lab, the old IPs that were assigned work and and I don't know how to create a new IP scheme. Sorry if this is a little cryptic. If there is something that I can make more clear, then please let me know.

    Thanks
     
  2. 2005/07/21
    Scott Smith

    Scott Smith Inactive Alumni

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    I think your a little mixed up.

    DNS (Domain Naming system) has nothing to do with deligating IPs.
    All that DNS does is tell computers looking for names where to go via IP (in a simplified explanition).

    DHCP hands out IP addresses in a dynamic manner.
    DHCP also tells the Client computer where to look for DNS, Gateway, and several other options.
    I dont understand why you say you dont want to use DHCP when it appears from the statement you dont understand it.
    If you want to configure IP addresses statically you simply go to the TCP/IP Properties of the NIC and configure it for a static address and enter the appropiate numbers.

    If I am missunderstanding what you want to do please clarify.
     

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    Hopefully your "lab" is not connected to your working network. If it is and you connect an incorrectly configured DNS and or DHCP server to your working system you will end up with many new problems. How many client machines are you talking about, and why do you not want to use DHCP?
     
  5. 2005/07/22
    jcrapps

    jcrapps Inactive Thread Starter

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    Thanks for the replies. Yes, I am totally oblivious to these concepts still. My oss doesn't want DHCP because he said that it gave him problems in he past. I dunno, it seems like DHCP is a no-brainer for me, but it's not what he wants. To be honest, I shouldn't be the one setting this thing up, but I'm straying from the point.

    So if you're able to assign yourself your own static IP, then how do you block Joe Blow from entering your network uninvited? I did try to give a client a static IP, but when I ipconfig the account, all I get is zeros for both IP and mask I believe. Why does it do this? I think that the DNS is set up correctly because it gets me though to the internet, but I dunno.

    Here is another thing that I don't understand: The previous IP scheme that was set up by the department works, but when I give some static IP like 192.168.1.xxx, it doesn't work. I've done some research on how to configure static IPs with a DNS server, but I can't seems to find the solution. Thanks.

    oh yeah, it's a fairly small network, roughly 5 computers. I'm running windows server 2003.
     
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    jcrapps

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    anyone?
     
  7. 2005/07/25
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    Here is the point:

    If you want to use stactic ip addresses then you do not need dhcp, but you still have to configure all the clients manually.
    If you have DHCP you can have stcatic ip addresses and you only need to create reserved ip addresses.
    DNS will dynamically update the dns database but that will depend on O.S. client, because some clients do not support dynamic updates.

    My choise is:

    DHCP with reservations and DNS with dynamic and secure updates.
    How many computers do you have on your network?
    What is your O.S. client?
    What is your server DC?
     
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    ok first of all how u have to tell us specificially y he doesnt want to use DHCP.. cus in 2005 that is simply one of the fastest and easiest way to manage ur network!!!

    now on to the point of assigning Ips..... each of ur machines are to have an Ip address in teh range given out by ur server in ur case it appears to be 192.168.0. XXX. now we would also like to know if u have a router. A router will normally be connected to ur dsl modem and then connected to ur switch which will distribute Internet access and firewall protection ..

    ur router has its own Ip address and this has to be entered as the gateway so that ur computers can access the internet.

    there are 3 sets of nnumbers u must enter when setting up a machine statically

    1) ip address .. range 192.168.0. XXX.
    2)Subnet mask .......255.255.255.0
    3) default gateway ...... Ip address of ur router/ computer sharing the internet

    then u have 2 other fields where u now enter the adress of ur dns servers.

    any questions please let us know.
    hope this helps
     
  9. 2005/07/25
    jcrapps

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    I do try to configure the clients manually, but the IP addresses that I give it don't work. Is there a certain range that I have to use or set? All clients are using XP Pro. When I use the IP addresses that were assigned to us from the department, everything works and shows up in the Server 2003 DNS Management Console (the computers in the domain). It is when I try to assign a static IP myself that things don't work. I have 5 computers on the network. I'm not sure how to find out what my server DC is.
     
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    jcrapps

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    We don't use a router, we have a netgear switch. The 192.168.0.xxx was just an arbitrary IP that I decided to use for my static IP. The server didn't assign that. How do I know what ranges the server will assign? I don't know if I am entering the correct dafault gateway IP. Would I use the same Default gateway that the department assigned us previously before I set us DNS for our network? I'm confused here.
     
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    jcrapps

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    To recap, this is my layout for now.

    5 computers running Windows XP Professional
    1 computer running Windows Server 2003, with DNS set up

    All computers connected to a NetGear switch.
     
  12. 2005/07/25
    windux

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    You only need to use the same subnet of your server.

    Let see this example:

    IP: 192.168.100.10
    Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.255.0
    Gateway: "I think you do not have "
    DNS: "your server ip address" ex: 192.168.100.1

    Do not forget to set the:
    DNS to permit dynamic updates, and the clients to register automatilly on DNS (go to the advanced properties of the tcp/ip protocol on DNS settings and check the "register this connection's addresses in DNS ")
     
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