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XP Backup program?

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    WinXP Home, SP2

    I did a search but didnt really find what i was looking for.

    Anyway, since Acronis wont do 64 bit addressing, i needed a way to restore
    my "C" drive if i ever need to (Shutter, shutter). I created\verified a backup
    (backup.bkf) for the "C" drive onto an external HD (USB2) drive.

    Questions:
    1. How would i get this to restore my "C" drive in event of a BSOD or simular
    problem? Safe mode?
    2. If i cant get into Safe Mode, what then? Reload windowsxp?
    3. Since no floppy (or any other bootup device) was created, how do i launch
    this restore? Just double-click it on the external HD (assuming safe mode is
    available)?
    4. Could someone post a couple links where this program usage is explained?

    Thanks,
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    I know that I'm not answering Your questions but anyway:

    I have successfully created and restored images of the system partition on a computer based on Gigabyte GA-K8NX U-SLI, AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (Socket 939) and Windows XP 32 bit. I used Ghost 2003 from the MS-DOS based Ghost Boot Disks.

    Are Your computer running Windows XP 64 bit? If so, I have no experience and don't know if Ghost 2003 would have done the deed.

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    Christer\Welshjim,

    Thanks for the tip, Christer but i wont have anything from norton on my
    system due to a previous bad experience years ago.
    I guess it is using 64-bit since acronis gives a msg about cannot handle 64-bit
    addressing. I have a file (registry?) called regedt32 in addition to the
    regedit, I'm assuming that both are available. Probably havent made a full
    change-over due to lack of 64-bit apps....

    Welshjim
    The HTML version was a bust but i got the ppviewer and will go that way. Not
    much sense to have a backup if you dont know how to restore it....


    thanks,
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    Pretty good tutorial there.

    Kinda like system restore but you get a broader selection of folders\drives to
    include in the backup file.
    I didnt see any reference to safe mode or bsod's.
    Actually, everything i did see assumed your system was running and you just
    wanted to put things back to a different time or even a different location.

    So, question 4 is completed. Still looking for answers to questions 1,2,3.

    Thanks, Guys,

    Anyone?
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    Welshjim,

    Not yet but i'll get there.......

    thanks,
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    Clif, once the Ghost Boot Disks have been created, You don't need to have it installed on the system. When the Ghost Start Service has been disabled, Ghost doesn't do anything even if it is installed. The only task I perform from the Windows interface is Ghost Explorer, kind of like Windows Explorer to view the contents of an image but then the Service has to be set to manual instead of disabled (default is automatic). I perform all creating, checking and restoring from the Ghost Boot Disks.

    Problems with Norton stuff aren't unheard of and Ghost isn't 100% flawless but problems are usually hardware related. If it works on Your system ...... :cool: ...... then it works. I wouldn't even consider installing a system without implementing a "system backup strategy" using Ghost.

    Ghost isn't interested in what the bytes on a harddisk actually "reads ", kind of like me being able to copy a text written in chinese but I wouldn't understand a thing. Ghost knows the design of the file system, reads the Master File Table and copies used space but excludes free space. I'm not sure but I believe that there would be no "64 bit addressing issue" with Ghost.

    Differences between Regedit.exe and Regedt32.exe

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    I found 64-bit Windows FAQs for ISVs and from General FAQs About 64-bit Windows I quote:

    My guess is that this is applicable to "smart" applications which are reading and comparing the contents in order to do incremental backups and/or backups of a running system. Trusted old Ghost, running from Ghost Boot Disks doesn't care ...... ;) ...... !

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    Same for me. Ghost doesn't care what CPU or OS is present, so long as DOS will boot on the machine, either from a floppy or a CD (which I prefer). Worked fine even with the one SATA disk (with 3 partitions, one NTSF) in the machine, with the -fni switch.
     
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    Since acronis wont be availabe for a while and i need a way to restore,
    guess i'll look into it. Who know, maybe they have made some improvements
    in all these years.

    savagcl

    I like acronis because you do a image backup within windows, no DOS.
     
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    Just went to the norton page and it says i have to have microsoft.net
    framework installed for norton 9.0 to work......

    What is microsoft.net framework??
    What does it do?

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    Suggest you search for 'system works pro 2003' which has ghost 2003; have seen it recently for under $10 on the net. At that price you really can't afford not to look into it.

    The DOS interface is graphic wirh your mouse once the program's running. You do have to have 2 disks (partitions) in your machine to use it efficiently, altho it will also write to CDs if you have only one partition.
     
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    Ghost 9 is a different critter ...... :( ...... it doesn't run from DOS but from within Windows. It is actually a flavour of PowerQuest Drive Image.

    You'll need the real stuff ...... :cool: ...... Ghost 2003!

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    Noooo, i dont think i want that MS.net stuff on my system specially since i
    dont develop any software and norton in any form leaves a bad taste in my
    mouth.

    I have a backup external HD and i can copy every thing except windows to
    that.
    If it comes down to it, I have the boxed windowsXP, sp2 and if this ever bombs
    out, i'll reload with the real windowsXP (and not the OEM version).


    Thanks for the help, tho,
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    I'm the same way. You don't need anything like that if you can find the version I suggested. And you can run Ghost without running anything else on the CD. And, remarkably, the new 2005 has the same ghost 2003 as well as version 9 which we don't recommend!
     
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    I'm with savagcl and sparrow ... I won't have a Symantec/Norton product on my computer.

    To the best of my knowledge, Ghost 9 isn't just a "flavor" of PowerQuest's Drive Image, it's actually Drive Image 7 re-branded. I find it interesting that Symantec abandoned their own product (Ghost) in favor of a former competitor's product (Drive Image). Is that the real reason why Symantec bought PowerQuest?

    As already mentioned, Ghost 9 (DI 7)'s major disadvantage for most users is the need to install M$'s .NET Framework. After numerous problems with DI 7 I switched to Acronis True Image 8.
     
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    JSS3rd,

    Exactly!

    I will update my acronis whenever they get geared up to 64 bit addressing.
    Guess i'll just wing it until then.

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