Win98 support on SBS 2003

I'm just deploying SBS 2003 and noticed that the Win98 machines can't login.
Does SBS 2003 support Win98? Is there a work around.
Thanks.

 

Domain or Workgroup?

In a Domain it works fine.

Havent tried in a workgroup.

 

The Win98 machine was fine logging into NT Domain, but now I'm getting:
"The domain password you provided is not correct, or access to your logon server has denied "
I've tried changing the settings in "Network" to no luck.
Any ideas are appreciated.
Warren

 

I connected 3 win98 machines to a 2003 Domain controller yesterday.

Changed the workgroup name to the domain name on the identification tab of network properties.

Made the primary log on Client for Microsoft networks.
And went to the properties of Client for Microsoft Network and ticked Log on to NT Domain and filled in the Domain Name.

Didnt know if it needed it but I added the DNS info in the TCP IP properties pointing it to the Domain Controller.

 

Scott,
What I'm noticing is that in Event Viewer it's showing successful Audit, but has it as Logon/Logout not Logon. It looks like it's logging on and then off at the same time. When I change the user account to force the "user to change password on next logon" I get a prompt to change my password once I've entered the current password. I even get confirmation that my password has been successfully changed. But instead of finishing the login process I end up back at the logon screen again.
Warren

 

Taking sort of a wild stab in the dark here, is Browser service running on the SBS server? Is it even available? Microsoft's technet article on browsing indicates that a bunch of 2K3 servers can run it but SBS isn't specified in their list and since I know less than zero about SBS, I'm not sure what that means.

98 is not AD aware or capable and has to depend on use using Network Basic Input/Output System (NetBIOS) over TCP/IP (NetBT) for any network browsing. 2K3 domains only have that available if needed by older systems and I think turning on browser service does the deed.

I'm not really sure what effect it will have if you run older machines that can't do any network browsing. Might cause the behavior you are seeing though.

As far as I can tell, there is absolutely no downside to having the old browser service running.

 

Found the issue/resolution:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;555038
1. Install Internet Explorer 6 with Service Pack 1 or higher.

2. Install DSCLIENT utility from Windows 2000 Server installation disk or from

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;288358

Note: Please review the knowlagebase: "Directory Services Client Update for Windows 98" 323455:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;323455

3. Enable NTLM 2 Authentication (please see "More Information" section for details).

4. Enable SMB Signing (please see "More Information" section for details).

5. Configure the workstation to use local WINS server.

6. Consider installing the hotfixes that descrive in:

Service Packs and Hotfixes That Are Available to Resolve Account Lockout Issues

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;817701

7. Configure the local DNS domain as DNS under TCP/IP properties.

 

win98/ME and AD

Hey guys, if your playing with w2k3 stuff you should already know this You need to dig up your old w2ksvr cd's and find dsclient.exe on it or download it from MS site. Just run it on your win98/ME machines to install AD support on win98/ME. w2k3 does not see passwords the same as NT.

Good luck

Cheers

Monty

 

Interesting.
I did not know this.
I have a couple 98 machines logging on fine.
I guess I'm not going to spend much time on this because those boxes will be phased out when Dell shipps this week!

Call me one of those guys sticking my head in the sand but as far as I'm concerned 98 is gone and 2k is heading out.

I was at a new resturant the other day on a sattelite issue and was watching their IT vendor installing 2k on new Dells with XP stickers on the side. These people need to wake up and smell the coffie!