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Hi, I've been trying to disk defrag in windows 98 but have been coming up with a problem

I've typed up the message I have been getting as follows,

Scandisk found 29261824 bytes of data in 530 lost file fragments. Lost file fragments might be useful files or folders, but are probably just taking up space.

It then gives three options

1) Discard lost file fragments and recover disk space

2) Convert the lost file fragments into files

3) Ignore this error and continue


I’ve tried 2 & 3 but my pc keeps freezing a few minutes later.

I was worried about taking option 1, as the information advice here is" These can safely be discarded, especially if the number of lost clusters is equal to the number of lost chains.

However, it also states here that scandisk detected 1786 lost clusters in 530 chains, which is more clusters than chains!

Also recently, I started to clean up some files after installing a free download, PC Cleaner, whose purpose was to remove some redundant dll files by deleting some old games my children had on here, our family pc. However, since then I started to get freezing, problems shutting. That programme told me to put these dll files into a back up, which I did. Winzipped them via powerachiver, which I have also got installed. However, I’m not sure if I have to properly restore those dll files now "“ and how to actually do that.

I also went and bought both registry fix and PC Onpoint as I thought these would restore dll files. I find on scanning with these programmes every couple of days or so, they tell me there are problems to fix, and they fix them.

In all honesty, now the only problem I have with my pc, is shutting down, I have to just manually turn it off at the switch. Every other area, internet, word excel etc seem fine.

Thanks very much for your help,

David

 

Unless you are desperate to retrieve information that has been "lost" due to the system crashing, just do 1) discard lost file fragments....
The "convert" may only save some partial files.
"Ignore" will only leave them to appear next time and only serve to confuse Windows.

If these errors come up in DOS Scandisk, before Windows starts, it may be better to cancel out and run Scandisk under Windows. I now only run Scandisk as "Automatically correct errors ", I would only check if I wanted to recover something. The lost fragments come about by not doing a "normal" shutdown while files are still "open ".

Matt

 

Thanks Mattman, I’ll do that when I next defrag.

TonyT – I did all that you said and on the Int Explorer tool, was asked if I wanted to revert back to the original Int Explorer, I clicked OK. I then thought I had sorted everything out, still it’s freezing at shut down however, but that’s not too much of a problem when now when I went back onto the internet I now cannot access some sites, where I have to put my username and passwords into such as hotmail, to check my e-mails – is this a cookie problem, do I need to amend my internet settings? Not sure. Please help, as I need to be able to access e-mails and access other secure sites for work. Thanks.

Also, I am getting an error message, which is titled:

C\Program Files\Zone Labs\Zone Alarm\ZLClient.exe

The message reads: Validation failed for c\windows\system\vsinit.dll

I seem to have lost my free version of Zone alarm.

I’ve also ran registry fix and PCCon Point again and found loads of file association and registry errors, which I’ve now fixed. One one internet site I got a warning from Zone Alarm
telling me to do the following as Zone alarm were restricting my access to the net, in case of attack
1. In your ZoneAlarm security product interface, go to the Overview Panel, click on the Preferences tab, and uncheck "load ZoneAlarm [product] at start-up" as shown in figure 1 below.
2. Reboot your computer. (To do this, click Start, select Shut down, select Restart from the drop-down menu, and then click OK.)
In this third step, you will be renaming your Internet logs folder. This simple step only takes a moment—just follow the instructions carefully below. Please note: Deleting your Internet logs is necessary to restore Internet access, but you will lose your ZoneAlarm security product settings as a result.

However, as I cannot access zone alarm now, I can’t do this. Tried downloading it again, but can’t seem to do this??


Zone alarm have also told me to go into Start/search etc, see below

3. a. Click on Start, select Search, and then For files or Folders.
b. In the box titled "search for files or folders named:" type the following exactly, with quotes: "internet logs "
c. In the box titled "look in:" select Local Harddrives…
d. Now press Search Now
e. In the results to the right you will see a folder called Internet Logs. Typically, this is located at:
i. C:\Windows\Internet Logs (for Win 9x/XP)
ii. C:\Winnt\Internet Logs (for Win 2000/NT)
f. To rename the folder, simply right-click your mouse on the word "Internet Logs," select Rename and then type in a new name in the text field such as "oldlogs." Press Return when done.

Done this. Zone Alarm now say to re-install and then uninstall, which seems a bit odd

I should be ok, I hope, except with my internet explorer problem explained above, which if you could let me know what I have to do. I guess it must be simple, but it’s foxed me.

Again, guys, thanks for your help

 

BAD MOVE on your part. What the program may call redundant may not be true. I believe REDUNDANT means " More than one exists " So unless the USER know EXACTLY which ones ( ones ) are not needed it is BY FAR BEST to leave them all. A few extra .DLLS hanging around is much better than the problem you have now.

If you are having this problem everytime you shut down means that WINDOWS is not shutting down properly. We had two power outages in the last few days. Scandisk ran on all three machines when they were restarted.

In my personal opinion right now I believe your best bet would be to do a repair install of the OS.

BillyBob

 

But, if you choose the repair install make sure to uninstall Internet Explorer first. That'll put back the version the repair install expects to use. Otherwise things will be so messed up you'll need to format.

So, uninstall IE, repair install Windows, install the latest IE. And, pray.

 

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Thanks, but how do I uninstall IE, I cannot find it on add/remove programs?

 

Also, I went into Windows Update and couldn't even get that pgae to scan my PC. Following message was given to me. Not sure again what I have to do here.

Thanks again for the advice


The Windows Update software did not update successfully. Below are some suggestions to help you proceed:

You may have clicked No when prompted to accept the Trust Certificate. To allow the Windows Update site software to install, click Yes when presented with the Security Warning dialog box.

Your Internet Explorer security settings may be set too high. To install the updated software and access Windows Update, Internet Explorer security must be set to medium or lower, and active scripting and the download and initialization of ActiveX controls must be enabled.

 

Sorry, me again.

Do I, after unistalling IE, actually uninstall windows 98, then re-install it, then re-install IE. Is that what I should do?

Thanks

David

 

That is a new one on me. I have never removed anything before doing a repair install.

BUT! In order to do it correctly the machine must be booted to a floppy first ( FROM A POWER OFF STATE ) and not the HD. and run setup from the CDROM:/Win98 folder( ie: D:/Win98/setup. This will allow the install to OVERWRITE everything.

But Anti-Virus and Firewalls should be shut down before the install.

Also if the machine in question is a Dell, Compaq etc. things may need to be done quite differently. Such as a Recovery CD.

I myself have all self-built machines so I can do things my way. But OEMS are not like that. And I tend to overlook that when making suggestions.

BillyBob

 

Well, if my system is that fubarred I usually just format and start fresh. However that reinstall warning about making sure to uninstll IE first is from a Microsoft KB article I read long ago.

I've never done a repair install on 98, only on XP, so if BillyBob has experience with this I would suggest listening to him.

BillyBob,

You can see the logic though. 98's stuff has no idea how to work properly with later IE versions. Microsoft is correct to warn folks, logically.

However, if you've had success doing it without uninstalling (which will leave you with the original IE version that came with your original Windows install as long as you only updated IE once) then I guess it can work.

And, best mate, when you open the IE Repair Tool from System Information the choice to go back to your previous version of IE is one of the options. That's what I mean by uninstalling IE. Your not really uninstalling it. You're just recovering the original version so the Windows installer gets things right. That's according to Microsoft, at least.