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explorer.exe or iexplore.exe?

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by pavehawk, 2005/06/04.

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  1. 2005/06/04
    pavehawk

    pavehawk Inactive Thread Starter

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    Hi there!

    When I click on the address bar to scroll down to a web address ( just using internet explorer with SP2)
    it just hangs and I have to click on the task bar and end the non responding program but if I just type a web address into the address bar I have no problems going to a site. I have tried all antivirus suggestions such as NAV2005, panda,rav,spybot, adware and hijack parasite checks and nothing comes up...

    Since this hasn't come up as a virus on my computer I thought I would post here.

    Thank-you for reading my post.

    pavehawk
     
  2. 2005/06/05
    TonyT

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    Not sure what the topic "explorer.exe or iexplore.exe?" has to do w/ your questions, but it sounds like you have an issue with internet explorer (iexplore.exe). Explorer.exe is windows explorer, the graphical user interface for windows.

    The problem has to do with Internet Explorer autocomplete history. Try this:

    1. open internet explorer
    2. Tools menu/Internet Options/Clear History button
    3. close internet explorer
    4. open ie again
    5. Tools menu/Internet Options/Content tab/ Auto complete button
    6. clear forms and clear passwords
    7. close ie
    8. open ie again and start browsing which will build a new list of autocomplete sites.
    9. report back here any issues or if issue fixed.
     

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    pavehawk

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    Thanks TonyT.
    That fixed my problem straight away.
    I forgot to add in the original post about the "iexplore.exe" file.
    Is this a real windows file or is it a fake? Seems strange to have two explorer files to me.

    Thanks again :)
     
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    Nothing is fake, They are both the real thing. And as individual as you and me.

    What is so strange ?

    You do not have two explorer files.

    Explorer.exe is a Windows OS related file which is C:\Windows folder and is a separate program from iexplore.exe which as TonyT mentioned is internet related and is in C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer folder.

    Explorer.exe may work without iexplore.exe But I do not think iexplore.exe will work properly with out explorer.exe

    The above may be just guesswork or suspicions. But If it is true then it will not surprise me one bit.

    BillyBob
     
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    I just proved my own point I believe

    I was online. I started taskmanager in the process tab open mode.

    I did and end task on IEXPLORE.EXE Just lost IE.

    I did the same with EXPLORER.EXE

    Results were a loss of EVERYTHING on the Desktop. and HIT THE RESET BUTTON TIME

    BillyBob
     
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    TonyT

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    why have to use reset button?
    just use task manager File menu/new task run/type explorer.exe and also you will be surprised to see that the apps that were running are still running even w/out explorer.exe!
     
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    TonyT

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    BB,
    I just used task manager to kill explorer.exe and right now as I type my taskbar is gone, my desktop is gone and yet I am using Internet Explorer! IE does not need explorer.exe as a separate process to run.
     
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    Why use the reset you ask ?

    I will tell you why. Because I had NOTHING else available.

    No toolbars. No Systray. No Start menu etc. Absolutely NOTHING on the Desktop. I even lost the background picture.

    In other words I had NOTHING else to work with.

    Also it may well have something to do with the way things are set up also. I say this because my Toolbars are hidden. Maybe if they were not I may have had them to use.

    But my main point to prove was that the two files are completely different and do different things.

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    TonyT

    I am liking this kind of discussion very much.

    Did you have iexplore running before you killed EXPLOERER ?

    I myself had no way of restarting Internet Explorer.

    I can not do it this evening but I will experiment further at a later date.

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    OK. I just could not resist the temptation. I made sure IE was loaded.

    I just did the end task on Exlplorer. Nuttin else but I am here.

    Another page added to my book of learning.

    Thank you TonyT

    BillyBob
     
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    TonyT

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    also, even if ie was not running when ending task on explorer, and if then close out task manager, you can still do the 3 finger salute and get back to task manager.
     
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    Then select Shutdown/Restart .

    Also on a restart this AM Scandisk ( chkdsk ? ) ran. Which means that something did not shutdown properly. It only did the C: drive.

    Normally I do not get into this kind of stuff but it is good to know just in case me or someone does get into TM and does shutdown Explorer.exe instead of Iexplore.exe.

    Also, now I have more solid and tested proof that the two files are different when a family member and I get into a ( sometimes serious ) discussion over the two files.

    Than you TonyT for your help.

    BillyBob
     
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    TonyT

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    yes, many will say that iexplore and explorer are almost exactly the same files (pgms). My theory is this is because of all the hype (good and bad) about iexplore being integrated with the operating system.

    But as can be demonstrated, the 2 are completely diferent files (pgms), and though greatly dependant upon one another, they are different. It is also demonstratable because iexplore can completely be removed from the operating system and replaced with a different web browser.

    I've removed almost all of iexplore functionality as a test using nLite, a free utility that is used to make a custom xp install cd using your own copy of the xp cd and any service packs and hotfixes you want to slipstream. I made an xpsp2 install cd that was trimmed down to slightly above 250 MB instead of the default 600 MB but removing unneeded services, windows apps and fluff.

    I use this install cd on test and temp replacement computers here at home should my primary comp fail or be sent out for warranty work. (laptop will be shipped to manufacturer soon to replace the mb) With 30 days activation grace period I can use this test/backup system with no worries.
     
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    Good Morning again TonyT

    You last reply explains it very well.

    I now think it might be good to change the title of the thread to something like " The difference between Explorer.exe and Iexplore.exe and maybe even pin it to the top somewhere for easier finding.

    Please correct me if I am wrong here but I believe this also applys to ALL versions of Windows not just XP.

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    As an added thought.

    Unless I missed it somewhere ( which is 100% possible ) I believe this is the first time the difference between the two files has really had such a good indepth discussion.

    BillyBob
     
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    TonyT

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    Actually, it is true only for xp. On win98, if explorer was killed there was no way to restart it because task manager in win98 does not have the 'run' command built into it.
     
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    OK. I see a need to clarify something.

    I do have to agree that things my well be different in 98. No questions whatsoever there.

    Yes we did do our bit of testing and or remarks here in XP. And XP may well have more power in the area.

    But even though the two files ( especially explorer.exe I guess ) may have different capabilites 98 they are still two different files ( pgms )

    And when I mentioned Family members I was refering to 98 SE.

    I just checked a 98SE machine ( to make sure ) and the two files are located in the same folders as in XP.

    But right now I have more important things at hand. ( like PERSONAL SAFTEY ) My neighbors TV Cable is only about 5 feet off of MY DRIVEWAY. And they are PI***D because I called the cable company.

    Later
    BillyBob
     
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    TonyT

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    to clarify, win98 does have explorer.exe and iexplore.exe and they are the same as on xp, except xp of course has higher version numbers of those files. The real difference is that 98 has no option/way to start explorer.exe after it has been killed via task manager.

    I suppose on win98 one could launch a command window and then kill explorer and then use that command window to cd to c/windows dir and start explorer.exe.
     
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    All in all I think we have very nicely answered the question in an early reply.

    That question being
    Many thanks to you TonyT for a great discussion. It has been a while since we had one.

    Now if I can get the TV cable out of the way I have to take my Wife to a meeting. But then again, I am not sure I want to venture out. It looks like we have a REAL BAD storm coming. They predict POSSIBLE Tornado action in the area.

    Lights flickering GOTTA GO !

    BillyBob
     
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    I would also like to add, Some spyware will be extremely hard to remove unless you stop the explorer.exe process. I recently removed a pest in this fassion, If explorer.exe was not stopped the spyware would reinstall itself after reboot, or was unable to be deleted because it would say the files were in use.
    Even a renaming of the files in use then a reboot - > then delete. would not work
    Because the process running hidden in explorer.exe would check if the files had been renamed or deleted and reinstall from a secret location. (sigh :rolleyes: )
    Anyways just thought id throw out a bit more info I found out recently.
     
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