No internet on 2000server

I have a server and 3 workstations, all new. Everything seems to be working ok but can't get internet on any computer through the router. The server has a Domain Controller. Is it the Domain (DNS) that is not letting the internet through or is it an IP conflict between router, modem and computers. Where should I start looking. One other question. On my 4.0 NT network, workstations will automatically reconnect to the server if the server is rebooted. My 2000 network requires I reboot each computer. Anybody know why? Thanks John

 

Running AD? Is your domain controller set to provide IP addresses as a DHCP server? Is it set up as a DNS server?

Also, try from a workstation browser, using an IP rather than a regular name to find an internet resource. Use http://67.15.19.177/ which should bring you to this forum.

Most likely if you are running AD is that you set the DC up as a root DNS server and that will cause all sorts of internet browsing issues. Fixable but it will take a little work.

On my 4.0 NT network, workstations will automatically reconnect to the server if the server is rebooted. My 2000 network requires I reboot each computer.

Not sure exactly what you mean here. Could you explain a little more?

 

I don't know what AD is. the Domain Controller uses DHCP for IP addresses. None of the work stations will get internet either by name or IP address. I don't know that much about IP addresses, but the server uses small network IP address 10.10.1.1 and address leases to 10.10.1.249. I just booted the server to get this info and I opened DHCP it said "program not responding ". Any ideas why it would quit respnding?? It was fine yesterday???

What's the best way to set this up? My POS software supplier (for retail store)requires I run a Domain Controller and TCP/IP protocol. Their program reads workstations by IP address. I just need it reliable and as simple as possible.

I'm a little confused about running DHCP or just a DNS server. I'm even more confused that the DHCP was not responding. Any thoughts and setup.

As for the DNCP service the event viewer says "the DHCP service is not servicing any client because none of the active interfaces has statically configured IP addresses or there are no active interfaces" I can't do anything in DHCP, it just gives my a Program not responding error.

There are other event veiwer messages or warnings as follows:

Error: W32 time: This machine is a PDC of a domain at a root forest. configure to sync from External time source using the net command, "net time/setsntp:<server name>

Warnings: RSVP: This host cannot be ACS since the active directory has not been configured via QoS ACS management Please configure subnets via QoS management console

Net logon Dynamic regisrtation or deregistration of one or more DNS records failed because no DNS servers are available.

Any ideas what happened??? There server and workstations are at my house and not at our business yet. Everything was fine in DHCP etc until I booted up today. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks John

 

I think the question is more one of 'why was it working before' rather than 'why isn't it working now'.

AD = Active Directory. It's the way 2000 domains operate and while it is nice for large networks, it is over-complicated for small ones where the classic NT4 domain structure worked fine. It is also tied much more closely to DNS than to the WINS structure Microsoft used with NT4 but had to go away from since the rest of the world didn't use it. Just wasn't suited for large networks.

That being said, I think the best bet here will be to greatly simplify your setup so it does what you need but without lots of bells & whistles that you don't need.

A couple more questions and I think I can give you some specific changes to make that will have everything humming along nicely.

Your router - is it one of the router/switch combinations that also can provide DHCP, DNS, and that sort of thing?

What size will the final network be? Are you simply going to move the Domain Controller and 3 workstations from home to business and use them as your POS network there? If so, will you be operating from the same router you are using now?

How does the vendor connect to your network when they need to and is it only for support/troubleshooting or do they work with your data?

What is going to happen to the NT4 network? Is it also at the business and to be replaced?

 

The router is a router switch. D-link with VPN. It's going to the business with the network.

The network size will never get bigger than server and 5 workstations, There is an additional workstation at the business (being used as a stand alone) now that does not use the POS system but access the internet (DSL)to recieve orders from an outside vendor .

Our POS vendor can do support if necessary via internet connection or dialup their preferred software is Laplink or VNC ( laplink preferred). I am a non-working owner, so I want to be able to connect to the network so I can access it from home. They require a Domain Controller and TCP/IP setup.

There are 2 other connections that are made by external modem, one is credit card processing and the other is a send and recieve order program that uses Procomm. We have added additional Serial Port cards to the Server to accomadate this. For some reason the software vendor wants the external modems.

Once the data is moved from the old 4.0 network, it will be abandon. All the new workstations and server will be on 2000. We are only moving data files, our vendor wants clean installs on all programs

Yes, my current server setup uses AD, Dhcp (which quit running) and DNS, need to simplify. Thanks alot, John

 

Good. That helps.

My reply is going to be fairly long and detailed and I don't feel like writing it up tonight (nearly 11:30pm) so I will do the deed tomorrow - probably in the morning but if not, after I get to work tomorrow afternoon.

I really have some heartburn with a vendor that doesn't offer any serious help in setting up a working network but lots of them just don't seem to. Never been real sure why not either. Ah well. Makes the forum more fun and hopefully more useful.

 

This vendor has been fairly helpful in the past. This is order entry / POS software specialized to the floral industry. They were the first company to offer a fully Windows based network, rather then a DOS network running on Windows, that interfaced with wire services, credit card processing and accting.. They originally only sold software, so they were quite helpful on getting things up and running. Then they mergered with another company and started selling hardware/software packages. Consequently, those of us using our own hardware, kind of got the shaft on anything to do with hardware, operating system problems etc. They do have killer support when it comes to their POS software, credit card processing software or order transfer software and basic Peachtree acctg software that they supply.

They do supply their standard requirements, Domain Controller, Basic Active Directory setup info, configure DNS, etc. but thats about it. Thanks for all your help, I'll be looking forward to your reply. John

 

John - work is sorta busy today for a change so no chance for much composing. I will be able to put a reasonable response together tomorrow though and will get something posted then.

Good to hear they do well with support. Not surprising if they want to sell a complete hardware/software system that they are sorta silent on the networking piece though.

At any rate, we should be able to get you up and running in short order. This is one case where I want to include some 'why' and 'what's happening' information in addition to a tick list of things to do. I think it will make the whole setup thing work better for you and maybe offer some options you hadn't been aware of.

 

Thanks for keeping in touch. I know how busy things can get sometimes.
Thanks John

 

Newt can you help? Thanks

Newt: was wondering if you would have time to reply. I need to get this server running and over to the business. I'm willing to do a reinstall if thats what it takes to simplify the set up. We seem to have a lot of problems with the DHCP and the DNS, mostly the DHCP. My router will issue IP addresses through it DHCP setup, would that be better, and not use the DHCP on the server. What other services and items don't we need? Also, we haven't been able to get our network printer to connect (HP 4050 TN with it own NIC) I tried network setup and I think the Domain controller won't let it in. On my NT4.0 server it set up as a local printer then when it ask for a port, we clicked create a port and it read the printer and named the port after the serial # or somthing on the printer. 2000 won't do it, we've entered IP addresses etc. and server won't recognize printer.

Just need a simple Domain Controller setup, using the D Link router so my workstations, printer and internet connection (DSL), and my 2 dial up connections will work reliably and consistantly

Thanks for the help, John