Confused about plug-ins

I prefer to use WinAmp to play mp3 files, and of course Netscape 4.79 came with the WinAmp plugin (and I already have WinAmp on my machine anyway). However, recently I had to install the QuickTime plugin to view a video on a particular site (no, not one of those videos!)... and now Netscape insists on using QuickTime for mp3's as well. I unchecked the file type in the QuickTime settings, and in my "Applications" list in Netscape, it says that the default application is WinAmp - nevertheless, it continues to use QuickTime to play mp3's. Ramona (or anyone else who know the answer), how do I fix this?

Thanks in advance...

 

acelightning,

In Netscape, when you have two or more plugins that handle the same file type, the last plugin to load gets precedence.

Look at this Netscape KB Article, and it will explain how to manually reorder the Plugins folder, so that WinAmp will handle the MP3 files.

Post back if this solution brings no joy!

Ramona

 

There's nothing in my Plugins folder that mentions WinAmp. There are five (!) plugins for QuickTime 5.0.2; there's Shockwave Flash, RealPlayer, Beatnik Player, and Live Audio, along with NPAVI32, Netscape Default Plugin, and Adobe Acrobat. (I've got a problem with Acrobat as well - when I close a .pdf file, Acrobat continues to run as a "phantom" in the background... multiplying itself if I view another .pdf, unless I close it from the task list. But that's another problem.)

I DO have WinAmp installed on my computer. And I could have sworn I saw a WinAmp plugin installing itself when I installed Netscape 4.79. Where did my Winamp plugin go?

Again, thanks...

 

Recall from my memory, I can't recall that there are plug-ins for WinAmp.
If you adjust WinAmp to handle mp3 file, it should do the job, otherwise the mp3 files will be handled by QuickTime 5 (maybe 4) if you installed them.

You might just want to RE-install WinAmp, and the plug-in will be re-installed again.

About the Adobe Acrobat, which Acrobat you are using, the full version OR the free Reader?
If you are using Acrobat (Reader or full) v5, you might want to upgrade it to v5.05

 

I just reinstalled WinAmp (actually, I installed a slightly newer version than the one I'd been using). It didn't change anything with regard to Netscape - Netscape still insists on using QuickTime. (I distinctly remember Netscape opening WinAmp for mp3s, even for streaming audio, before I installed QuickTime.) NOW what do I do?

I have Adobe Reader 4.0 - it was on a CD with some other software. I probably ought to get the newer version and install that, but not until I get this problem with WinAmp straightened out!

 

Go to the Control Panel ( or Start | Program | Quick Time) to fix your QuickTime.

(In QuickTime application), Edit | Preference | QuickTime Preference
OR
(In Control Panel), double click QuickTime.

then in QuickTime Settings,
choose Browser Plug-in,
Then MIME Settings.
(unselect the one you don't want QuickTime to handle through plug-in in browser)

Note: I am using QuickTime 5 Pro, Win XP Pro.

 

I have QuickTime 5.0.2, the simplest version, with Win95. In "Preferences ", I have the choice of associating "Windows file types (AVI, BMP...) ", "Macintosh file types (PICT, AIFF...) ", and/or "Internet file types (GIF, JPG...)" with QuickTime. All I've got checked is the "Macintosh file types ". There is no list of "Browser plugins" or "MIME settings" in my Preferences.

 

In QuickTime Settings, there is a pulldown box, where you can select ....

About QuickTime
Browser Plug-in
Connection Speed
File Type Association
Language
...
Registration
...

Choose Browser Plug-in.

Get it?

 

Okay... found what you meant - it's a little different in my version of QuickTime. When I go to "Browser Plugins ", it has three possible check boxes ( "Play movies automatically ", "Save movies in disk cache ", and "Enable kiosk mode ")... and a button that says "MIME settings ". When I clicked on that, I got a list of different file types. However, mp3 (and most other types of sound files) were already unchecked. Yet my browser is STILL using QuickTime to play mp3s! It's very frustrating.

 

All right,

Since I like QuickTime (I bought the Pro), I have no problem for it to handle the file.

I just noticed that I don't have those associations selected in MIME as well, but QuickTime handles mp3 for me in Netscape.

From Help | About Plug-ins
It showed that...

QuickTime Plug-in 5.0.2
File name: C:\Program Files\QuickTime\Plugins\npqtplugin4.dll
...
Mime Type: audio/x-mpeg
Description: MPEG audio file (*.mpeg,*.mpg,*.m1s,*.m1a,*.mp2,*.mpm,*.mpa)
Suffixes: mpeg,mpg,m1s,m1a,mp2,mpm,mpa
Enabled: Yes

You have to find some way to change yes to no.

You can try Ramona's link, which in Netscape, the later plug-in installed will substitute the handling of extention for older plugin, (or other way round).

OR try
http://kbase.info.apple.com/cgi-bin...uery?searchMode=Assisted&type=id&val=KC.36508
and see if you can get rid of it.

OR, from Netscape, Edit | Preference | Navigator | Helper Application and specify mp3 to be handled by WinAmp.

(I don't use WinAmp.)

 

That's weird... in my "About plugins ", none of the five different components of QuickTime say anything about mp3 - just mpeg, mp1, mp2, m1m, etc. I don't know any way to change the "enabled" status as it's listed in the "About plugins" page. As for Ramona's suggestion, there isn't any plugin for WinAmp in the Netscape folder, so I can't reinstall it the way that article explains. And my "Applications" list shows mp3 as being handled by WinAmp. Very puzzling.

 

"Mime Type: audio/x-mpeg" means MP3

I would suggest try creating Helper Application,
Extensions: MP3
Mime Type: audio/x-mpeg
Handled by (location to WinAmp)

If not working, delete it, then...
Can you try to
1. uninstall Winamp
2. re-install Netscape 4.79 with its WinAmp (included)
3. tell us what happened.
4. install (newer) Winamp
5. tell us what happened.

 

I already uninstalled and reinstalled WinAmp, but it didn't change anything relating to Netxcape. Should I uninstall and delete everything relating to Netscape, and do a "clean" reinstall, or just install 4.79 over itself? (I'd much rather not disable all my communications for potentially most of a day, in the event that I mess up Netscape.)

 

Since you don't have the npqtplugin4.dll (plugin) I would suggest creating the MP3 Helper Application entry, which Antony suggested, before reinstalling Netscape with WinAmp. The entry can always be deleted in the event it doesn't address your problem, and might save a lot of grief.

If the above doesn't work, then my advice would be to install Netscape over itself, as your problem is not Netscape, but a conflict with Quicktime and your other multimedia players.

I have experienced Quicktime, and found it to be totally incompatible with my Windows 95 set up. It's a very popular program and some users experience no problems whatsoever. However, I have not included it on my Windows 98SE system either...

FWIW,

Ramona

 

Try creating Helper Application first, it should not be too harmful. You can remove the Helper Application afterwards.

 

Just what exactly do you mean by "create a Helper Application "? In my list of Applications, I already have a number of file types associated with WinAmp, beginning with mp3 files.

I do have the npqtplugin4.dll (along with npqtplugin.dll, npqtplugin1.dll, npqtplugin2.dll, and npqtplugin3.dll). I just don't see anything in my plugins folder that relates to WinAmp.

 

Well, I have no idea what I did - I didn't actually DO anything at all! I just looked through all the settings, to see what you (pl.) were recommending to me. But somehow, the next time I went to a site with an mp3 on it, lo and behold, when I clicked on it, it opened in WinAmp!

Thank you!

 

Glad, it works for you.

Following were typed before your successful post, I was previewing.

In my Netscape 4.79,
Edit | Preferences | Navigator | Applications

Then, I have:

Description: Wmplayer File
Extension: MP3
MIME Type: audio/x-mp3
Handled By: WMPLAYER


Then when I click a link to mp3 file, it launch Windows Media Player externally.

Please note that I don't have QuickTime plug-in installed for Netscape 4.79. (QuickTime plug-in is installed in NS 6.2.3 and NS 7.0 PR1)

IF you ALREADY have MP3 handed by WinAmp setting in your Netscape, and still not working....
try:
1. uninstall Winamp
2. re-install Netscape 4.79 with its WinAmp (included one)
3. tell us what happened.
4. install (newer) Winamp
5. tell us what happened.

(If still no help, you might need to give up QuickTime plugins.)

 

I'm thinking of uninstalling QuickTime anyway... I've had it, and wound up uninstalling it, at least twice before. As Ramona pointed out, it gets along with Microsoft and/or Netscape products uneasily, at best.

Thanks, Antony and Ramona, for your help.

 

It could very well be that your problems were just site related. I do think you will do quite well without QuickTime.

I was definitely getting confused about plugins, also, and yes, after reading your posts again, I see that you had the QT plugings but not WinAmp plugins.

A good test site for audio/MP3 files, and to check your default player configuration:
http://www.media.globix.net/ms_webaudio/default.htm




Ramona