Can't get rid of Restore Points

Yikes! I hope she is OK. Let us know.

Martin

 

I am back. They are quite sure ( as of now ) that Nancy just has an Intestinal Virus. But I do have to go get some Medication and stuff for her.

But we do have to watch here CLOSELY for a day or two.

So I will be back in here as soon as I can.

BillyBob

 

OK. That may be a good idea while you are cleaning and for a short time after.

But once you get the cleaning done and all seems to be OK then that RP should be Disposed of. And new ones made. On BOTH C: and D: I would say.

Why you may ask ?

Because the one you saved was made BEFORE THE CLEANUP. And if used after it will put everything ( at least the Registry part and who knows what else ) back and again you will have WASTED your time.

Once you find that all is going to be OK you should shut down and restart SR.

And if you do a SR on D: and not C: the registry stand a good chance of not matching also.

YES, I know that it takes a bit of time. But if not done and an old RP is used ??? ( Fill in your own words. ) You will need to do the cleaning all over again. And you want to talk about WASTED time. Well there it is.

SR is nice. But if not handled properly it can also be not so nice.

Again I say. " I have been down that road. " And it can get darned awful rough.

BillyBob

 

BTW.

I used the same idea with the RB00X.cab (( reg backups ) in 98.

Any housecleaning or major changes they get deleted and a new one made. But in 98 all you have to do is delete the old and restart Windows.

BillyBob

 

I have 3 hard drives, what do you need 6 for or are you counting partitions, as well? '''''''' You know, there are limits and even though they may not be documented by Microsoft, there is point where too much is just too much. +++ I think you have too many drives. System Restore works fine, if you want to use it. I'm one of those people that doesn't use it because I try to not have a whole lot of background services running. I don't really deem System Restore that important to me because: 1.) I keep "Windows and my programs" on their own physical drive. --- 2.) I keep "files" on their own physical drive. --- 3.) I use one whole physical drive just as a scratch disk for applications like Photoshop and audio editing programs that need a "working space ", and for a scanner that needs a "working space ", as well. +++ You see, that way if Windows goes bonkers or I mess it up somehow, I don't need to back up anything before I re-install the operating system and applications -- which might take me all of one afternoon --- no biggy!!! +++ I utilize as much processing power as I can to run my programs. [[[]]] You may want to reorganize your priorities better as to how you want to use your machine. {{{{}}} I'd be willing to bet your computer's power supply is struggling to start the freakin' thing - let alone maintain the proper voltage once it finally gets going. Good luck y'all!!!

 

Mr. Fixit:

Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

You would loose.

I like the way I use my machine just fine.

BillyBob:

Yep, that's the idea, 1. Clean up, 2. create restore point, 3. delete all but most recent.

You take care,

Martin

 

I see absolutley no sense to that at all. You are the one that seems to be against taking a bit more time to restart SR.

I would be willing to bet that it takes as many ( if not more ) steps to do it they way you write.

I would bet that 1. Clean up. 2. Shut down and restart SR. Would be FAR faster and a LOT less work. And I would bet a lot more reliable. Plus you would DEFINETLY have the most recent.

I know that you do have more than one drive/partition. When you make changes like add/remove, install/uninstall, on a partiiton other than D:, do you make a new RP of the C: drive ?

I ask because. If you do get the Disk Cleaner to work and it does preserve what it calls the most recent and you make the changes I refer to THE ONE that was saved as most Recent if WAY OUT OF TUNE. And may be TROUBLE if used.

Just about anything ( if not all ) you do on ALL DRIVES is usually refered to somehow it the Registry. And if the Registry and what is actually on the drive do not macth, there could be problems.

And last but certainly not least.

The EASIEST WAY may well not be the best way

Well, I gotta get some things done and get ready for Golfing with our Friend in Canada.

You take care too.
BillyBob

 

There are no programs on any other drive other than C or D, so there is no add/remove or install/uninstall on any other drives/partitions.

Files/Folders on other than C or D are items copied from digital cameras (still and video) or saved program install files copied to HDD, other saved and/or backup files.

As far as I know, none of these impact the registry.

Take care,

Martin

 

Hi Martin,

You're right about the media files - SR doesn't monitor them, but it does monitor - among others - files with a .exe extension.

The reason for me to mention this is because having as many HD's as you do, sometimes (rarely, but it does happen) XP insists on enabling SR for one of my external HD's or for a internal non-OS partiton or for the "other" OS on the 2nd internal drive.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/sr/sr/monitored_file_extensions.asp

Regards - Charles

 

Well I do have to compliment you on keeping that kind of stuff on a drive by them selves. That I like. I have one partiton that I use for same.

Downloaded stuff. Pictures. Backups etc. And like yourself no actual Programs.

BillyBob

 

Thanks Charles. I have SR shut off on all drives except C & D. So if it doesn't monitor the drive, I can't see how it could monitor .exe files on those drives.

Take Care,

Martin

 

Hi Martin! There's a wealth of Information About System restore here.

If I had to guess as to your problem, I'd say perhaps you have corrupted the present chain of Restore Points by swapping a boot drive around at one time or another. That's just a wild guess mind you so if it doesn't apply, act like I didn't mention it so I can delete it unceremoniously.

 

Hey Dude, been wondering when (or if) you would join in this one. Glad to hear from you. Don't delete it yet!

You may very well have made the right guess, boot drive has been swapped within this machine.

It was originally on the IDE controller, but set up that way, the DI7 imaging program when booted from DI7 CD (with F6ed RAID drivers loaded) could not "see" the drives on the RAID controller, even though all ran OK during normal operation.

Now boot from the RAID controller, and DI7 boot CD restore program can "see" all drives.

The change was made by just swapping two drives, the boot drive from the IDE controller (at 0-0) to the RAID controller (at 0-0) and the drive which had been connected to the RAID controller reconnected to the IDE controller.
Plus a couple of tweaks in the BIOS.

The machine has been configured this way for probably a year, works great, and I have no desire to change it. (other than wanting to build a 64FX machine)

I am able to restore a drive image to the RAID boot drive from an IDE drive. Done it several times. Restore "C" and "D ", about 25 gigs in 20-25 minutes.

So if the "delete all but most recent SR points won't work, so be it.

I might add that this configuration also caused problems with Acronis True Image.

Thanks,

You take care,

Martin

 

Now, Martin, I gave up trying to get you to insert that shiny disk a long time ago!

I suspect that even if your calendar shows restore points prior to the last one, they will not work because you did the disk cleanup trick. The Little box hasn't caught up with the new info yet. I would do like Zander said- turn SR completely off, make sure a new SR point is made...then I would wait a few days and see if you can delete "all but last" SR.

I'm in Ohio, and I can hear Catastrophy snickering in the darkness, pleased with herself for inventing a new way to pester you. She delights in these evil torments, you know.
Johanna

BB- please give my best to Nancy. Hope she makes a speedy recovery.

 

Johanna

It has been Done. She I both say thank you.

BillyBob

 

Hey Johanna, it is really good to hear from you. I keep that shiny disc out on top of my desk in plain view. Strangely, ever since I have done that, Catastrophy has been relatively docile. I dunno, maybe you got something there.

OK, I'll give her some time to try to figure out what I did to her, or maybe she just objects to me taking something away from her. She could be fond of her restore points. I guess I should ask her first??

Be well,

Martin