spam folder; how to?

I use netscape 7.2 for email only, and netscape email service.
All my mail is on their server, I don't keep any in my local folders.
I have a spam folder online, some junkmail goes there and some don't.
There doesn't seem to be any consistency to it.
How do I make all junk email go there instead of into my inbox just marked as junkmail?
I find nothing helpful in help, and my searches didn't produce either...Am I the only one with this problem?
THX

 

Jeff,

Could you clarify for us, which Netscape Mail you reference. Is it the AOL Webmail, or the AOL Netscape ISP?

Thanks!

Ramona

 

Do I understand that you have a program separate from Netscape which is supposed to handle spam? And, that you would like all spam to go there, rather than in the Inbox?
This is in the category of I wish you good luck, because there is no fool proof Spam Control. My ISP has inline Spam control, and it attached the word Spam to all mail which is thought to be Spam. In about one year it has been 100% effective in having no false positives, but I am getting some mail which I think is spam, almost daily. So, I am trying to train the Junk folder, but with little success. These days spammers are getting clever, and do things like misspelling something in the subject. and, as you know VIAGRA is different from Viagra, and also v_IAGRA, and there you got it. You defeat spam controls, filters, and Junk controls. I routinely report e-mails which are obvious 'Phishing" attempt, but I am resigned to the rest. But this is a Spam controls issue, first.

 

That is a good question, but it could mean anything.
But, my answer still applies to something other than Webmail, or may be it does.

 

My isp is adelphia high speed cable. I have email through adelphia too, but I have it set to automatic forwarding to netscape.net
My installed mail program is netscape 7.2 and I use it to read and write mail through a free netscape webmail account....welderjeffo@netscape.net
I guess it is AOL now, it doesn't work very well with firefox, it's possible to work in my email account, but I have to enter my email name and PW everytime. and thunderbird doesn't work atall.....that's why I have netscape7.2 installed instead of thunderbird.
When I want to read or send mail, I want to click one time and access my mail.
I hope this clarifies, netscape has become very confusing these days and I don't really like it, but I refuse to use MS programs. I'm just patiently waiting for thunderbird to work with my email account.

 

Jeff,

AOL's Webmail doesn't work with Thunderbird, and doubtfully ever will. You might take a look at the Thunderbird FAQ, which clearly state this.

In Netscape 7.2, open your Password Manager, found here:
Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | Passwords
Click on the "Manage Stored Passwords" tab
Delete all AOL Webmail entries that are listed
Exit Netscape

Now open Netscape, and when prompted for the user name and password, NS should ask if you chose to use PW Manager to remember the information. Answer "Yes. "

Let us know if you continue to have problems.

Ramona

 

thanks, I know about TB mail...I checked it out a long time ago. that's why I have netscape 7.2 installed.
sorry, i added more confusion, i'm not having trouble with un's or pw's.
My trouble is 3-4 exact duplicate junk mail messages coming to my inbox, merely marked as junk.
seemed to me that email marked as junk would start going to the spam folder after a while, but then I thought maybe there is a setting that I could change.... guess not.

 

Jeff,

When you receive these specific messages that are SPAM, then right click, select: Mark | As Junk.
Also manually mark mail that ISN'T Junk. This is how you train the Bayesian Junk Mail Filters. Do this for a period of time, and see if it does the trick. You can also access the Junk Mail Controls through:
Tools | Junk Mail Controls | Mark.

This is a Screen Shot of my Junk Mail settings. I haven't had to do anything to the settings for ages, but it did take some time to train the Junk controls. Now, as soon as SPAM hits my Inbox it bounces immediately to the Junk folder.

Ramona

 

Just a note about AOL Webmail. It can be set up in Mozilla and Thunderbird, but Netscape Webmail cannot. But, the Spam Controls are not likely to work.
I gave up on AOL last month, and if anything its mail could be directed to the local folders. Details are given in TB FAQs .
Just scroll down to receiving and sending AOL mail. The item beneath it is about Netscape webmail.

 

Ok...I can't setup Tbird with my netscape webmail. And since it's sort of a part of aol, it's a hassle to access using firefox. But I've had the email addy for a long time and I don't want to change it, so i've got netscape 7.2 installed. I rarely use the browser, and I don't keep any mail in my local folders, but I still need netscape installed, just for fast, convenient access to webmail.
Up until the last month or so, I've had no junk mail, no spam, and I've enjoyed opening netscape mail to find only letters from close friends and relatives..
Then I saw something for baby product samples that caught my interest, (since I'm now a grandfather!!!!!) and when I subscribed, it started a snowball in 7734.
Usually I'm not a sucker for anything on the net, but the baby products got me, and now I have an overloaded mailbox.
I must say however, with some patience and persistance, I'm making some headway on getting rid of the piles of consequences from subscribing.
I've given up on the spam folder, since I can't seem to set any controls for it, but my junk mail controls seem to be working fairly well now.
I also started bombarding my spammers with hundreds of 1mb junk files...with a subject line of unsubscribe.....I know I've made an impression when I get a return stating that the recipient mailbox is full....a dose of their own medicine!
Funny how fast they remove my e-addy from their list when I overload THEIR system!...even though they say unsubcribing may take 10 days, more or less.

Anybody reading this should be aware that subscribing to the simplest thing can end up with your e-addy on hundreds of lists.
AND, if you respond to one e-mail, chances are that one thing will put you on several hundred more lists, and so on, and so on.

My biggest problem was with a thing called "bargnet "...a canadian company that offers all sorts of stuff, cheap products of all sorts, cheap car loans, cheap mortgages, etc., somehow I got on their list and they put me on a couple hundred other lists.
It took me over 2 weeks to get off "bargnet ", in in the meantime, they kept adding me to other lists, but one by one, I beat them, and I figure in 2-3 weeks I will be back to normal.

doggone internet! sometimes more trouble than it's worth!

 

It is correct that Tbird cannot set up Netscape Webmail. It is a webmail, after all. But, you can set up Webmail at the Netscape.com website, with Firefox.
I have no idea about what kind of spam control it uses, or if I happen to have a carry over from Netscape7.2 mail. But there is a Spam folder in Webmail, in Firefox. I use Webmail only a bit, and I got only one spam item with two accounts. The item was dumped, without opening it.
At the Website, if there was any Spam controls, they would work by moving the item to the Spam folder. I will try to find more about it.
What do you mean by "it started a snowball in 7734. "?
My suggestion is not to bother with Netscape Webmail, although its greater capacity should handle a lot of junk, unless you want to use it for a few selected websites.
If you want spam controls and a free account, use Yahoo, but you will have a good time fishing in the trash for good stuff.

 

I only keep netscape because of the long time email address. The amount of junk isn't really a factor for the overall capacity of the account, actually, the relatively small amount of junk I'm getting probably wouldn't be a factor for any account.
But it is aggravating. I like to keep things simple, open my mail, read something from one of my kids, maybe something from a business associate, and that's it. But lately, I have to wade through 6-8-10 junk mail just to see what I want to see, and at 2 am, when Im short on time...and patience,(i just woke up and haven't even finished my coffee).
Oh, "snowball in 7734 "? haha...personal joke, '7734' is 'hELL' (upsidedown). the snowball grows, and it melts, grows and melts,. but it never completely melts, it shrinks, but in the process gets harder at the core, and as time goes on, the core gets bigger and bigger, in turn causing the snowball to gather more size and momentum. The same nature as junk email and spam. The list maker tells 2 friends, and they tell 2 friends, so now you're on 8 lists, and those tell 2 friends...now 24 lists, so on and so on.

 

Jeff,
I have experienced pure hell from some junk mail, so, I don't mind to click on the Junk button, or just add the add by clicking by the Subject.
Just yesterday, I was in the middle to replying to yopur post when I saw that e-mail had come at one account. I rarely get any e-mail there (it is not my ISP account), so I went to check, and both were junk, so I selected to move them to the Junk folder, but they did not budge. I saw only the hour glass. NS7.2 was locked up. Obviously my reply to your post was gone. I tried all sort of things, including trying to go to the website to delete the messages. And I could not log in at the website. I had removed all reference to that account from my Password Manager, and the
filtrers did not "take ". Something in one of the messages must have prevented me from doing that behaving pretty much like a virus. I removed the account, and regained control of NS. But, then I went into Mozilla1.7.7, and sure enough I was able to send the posts to the Junk folders, from which they were later trashed. After that I was able to acess the website, and restore the account in NS7.2.
I wonder if it was Mozilla1.7.7, or the fact that I had set up the account differently. IMAP in NS7.2, and POP3 in Mozilla. This was a myrealbox account.

 

Hi Westside
Possible for this brief period "MyRealBox" server was offline. MyRealBox is a very large beta test site for Novell NetMail - service outages are conditions to the service. Have used this web based service past couple of years via IMAP connection and have frequent "can not connect" conditions. I use MyRealBox for my
"High quality - need an email address - trash account" ... they auto filter / block 99+% of the spam. Works very nice for this purpose.

 

Dennis,
you may be correct, in part. I found out the following since my latest problem:
1. Myrealbox does accept new subscribers. I think that this happened in late February.
2.There had been outages in the past, but not lately. I have used Myrealbox for over three years, and although they outages were a norm in the past( entire weekends were out), it has been good.
3. They recommended to set up the accounts as POP3, for greater security, while IMAP was more convenient, and it is much more than web based.
4. I can no longer access the website, and that may go hand in hand with their no new subscribers policy.
5. I sent an e-mail to their abuse address, and the answer I got was that they are very strictly enforcing a no spam policy from their own subscribers, but that the user is in his/her own with external spam.
At this point, I am doing ok, and readded the account in the POP3 format.
Interestingly, I use the account only to access the McAfee fora.

 

a little update:
I have been moving all unwanted mail to the spam folder, and guess what !
It's been 3 days now without one junk or spam in my inbox !
A little tenacity goes a long way

 

Hi Jeff,
you are lucky, and, I hope that you continue having such a good luck. But, always check the Junk folder for good mail. I set up yesterday another Thunderbird profile, with only my bad account. It promptly dumped all newsletters in the folder, but left behind a real spam. I was able to get everything back to normal.. This morming, I found three real spam and another newsletter, yet. There must be something about newsletters which triggers the controls. But, this is pretty normal. Account which have learned for long time, get the newsletters in the Inbox. But I get some good ones, with subjects like: koppie Zanosan, and barrier Oxcarbazepine. Both were peddling Viagra, and it was not even possible to tell in the Message source. All of them were mass mailings to the same ISP which I have, and were surely not addressed to my username, like the newsletters, which are dumped.
By the way, these e-mail go under the ISP spam controls radar, which blocks about 90% of the spam. It is a real puzzle how these controls work or not.
One of the two have out of this world text. A sample is here:

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Oh, but do tell me, though, somebody, because I have been thinking other things, but it is not necessary that either the one quality or
inhabitants suited to such a town, glittering in icy garments, with Captain Sang, raging and saying the thing was a disgrace; that it was
entered my head, then, that there was anything dishonourable in That I do, Mr. David, and will never tell, said she.

The other one is more to the point:

To Spe : V c ia 30x100m ls on ly $59.
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C3lick her9e for our pi5ll of the day s3pecial!

Exactly as quoted!