Windows Firewall turning off on it"s own?

It never rain but it pours? Every time that I think of it I check Windows Firewall from "control Panel" and find that it is turned OFF.Another XP in the Lodge is the same "my son's, he thinks it "s got to have something to do with Zonealarm?" I don't count on this firewall as primary, but I don't like settings being changed when it is not me doing it? OH!! I promise I do use search before starting a new thread to see if my enquiry has been addressed. I don't usually see it? Maybe I need some more experience on using the search? Lenny

 

Hi Lenny,

The 5.x ZA versions will turn Windows Firewall off.

If XP detects ZA not running, the windows firewall will start up again, or it should. You shouid test that, shut ZA off and see if WF fires up.

Regards - Charles

 

That happens only if the Windows firewall is turned ON. It has a number of settings, but the three main ones are ON, OFF, and NOT MONITORED.

If OFF is selected, turning ZA off will produce a red shield icon in the Systray, with the message that the ZA firewall is turned off, and that your computer may be at risk. Turning ZA back on replaces the shield icon with the ZA icon and gets rid of the message.

If NOT MONITORED is selected, Windows ignores whether ZA is on or off.

 

Charles, Hi: Jim: Hello again.

Charles,It is good to hear from you again! As to your post, I did the test that you suggested, It did not seem to matter what I did? ZA off, or on, Windows Firewall off or on, all combination and/or permutations? Windows Firewall won't turn back on by it's self? It may, if I deleted ZA, but I don't want to do that just yet. As I was working on this Jim's post came in {Hello again Jim} even with both firewalls off, I get NO icons in the SYSTRAY warning me of that fact, but I am already having problems in that area {this problem Jim already knows about} If you are interested in what that is, Charles see (Windows XP :Missing active program icons beside clock read out?) a post by me.Jim I went into the Windows Firewall settings under Exceptions and unchecked all the options," Interesting ,there was one for universal Plug and Play" I then selected no exception on the main turn off or on screen.Any comments on this?Until I get my icon problem solved this on may have to be put on a back burner? Jim I'm glad that you are getting my e-mails. but I still get a Failure notice each time that I send one. I may send you one from another e-mail account to see if it might be a Yahoo problem. Thanks guys. Lenny

 

Hi Lenny,

I have nothing checked on either the Exceptions or the Advanced tabs in the Security Center, and you can select Don't allow exceptions on the main screen only if you have the XP Firewall turned ON. Since you're using ZA anyway, I'd just turn the XP Firewall OFF and not worry about it.

Note, also, that the Security Center shows Virus Protection ON because you're using an external AV program, either NortonAV2005 or AVG (both shown in your signature). Personally, I use AVG.

 

loonychoons

I maybe should stay out of this but I can't. I see too many things that relate to various problems that I have had.

The more I read the more I believe you may be correct that the problem started back around the 22nd when you had the problem with AVG.

Having been involved in the Icon problem discussion, I have a strange feeling that the E-mail problem and the Icon problem may well have a common cause.

That being the messed up install/uninstall of AVG Anti-virus software.

BillyBob

 

I just saw this. We were posting at the same time.

I see some VERY possible conflicts here Especially if both Norton and AVG are trying to load.

Norton is one very tough item to shut down.

Now I recommend more than ever that loonychoons Get involved with the Startup-Control-Panel that Jim recommeded to see just what may be loading ( or trying to ) at Startup and shutting down everything that is not needed to run the machine.

BillyBob

 

Hi Jim,

By turned on, do you mean the Service? If the Service's startup type is Automatic, WF can be turned off in the Security Center.

I would worry about it, which is why the Service shouldn't be disabled. With the Service running and WF turned off in the SC, WF will startup if something happens to ZA.

Regards - Charles

 

Hi Charles,

I was speaking only of the settings available in SP2's Security Center.

Truthfully, the Service never even crossed my mind. I'm guessing that the default setting is Automatic, and that most users would never know about it, anyway. You techie types tend to get under the hood more than the rest of us.

I've never had anything go wrong with ZA (knock wood) but, Murphy's Law being what it is, I suppose that anything can happen.

 

Hi Lenny,

First, right, don't delete ZA. EDIT: What ZA version?

Is the firewall service running? Start > run > type services.msc and scroll down to Windows Firewall. The startup type should be Automatic.

Aside from any problems in the NA, try this: in the SC on the left under question mark Resources, click on "Change the way Security Center alerts me" and play with those settings. Are the alert option(s) ticked?

Regards - Charles

BTW, I've been away for a few weeks and playing catchup - so my reponses may be slow.

 

BillyBob, Charles & Jim

First off Norton is installed only because I deleted AVG.I am in the process of cleaning up the little bits and pieces of AVG that were missed at uninstall,

I do use the Windows Security to check and set my virus and Firewall protection. Off-line I turned off ZA . The system then said Norton was my protection I turned that off , it said Norton Worm Control was then protecting, I turned that off, then the Windows Firewall turned on and then said it was protecting, I turned that off and got an indication icon that my system was not protected. Remember this was all done off-line, so I was safe turning thing off and on,I hope?

I did a computer search and found 16 AVG hold ons, They are now unactivated or deleted. My mistake was installing the new AVG + Firewall Beta "QUOTE FROM AVG" { This is a Beta version of AVG Anti-Virus plus Firewall. The installation and use of this Beta version may cause unexpected results. GRISOFT s.r.o. or any subsidiary of GRISOFT s.r.o. will not be held responsible for data loss, or any computer problems resulting from the use of this Beta version.} I should have read the fine print?


I am not a Norton Symatec fan and as soon as I have this sorted I will be reinstalling the regular AVG,

Since my latest removals my SYSTRAY has behaved properly? " touch wood "
My REGSEEKER showed 56 more entry's in different places in my computer of AVG components, but they may be sharing resources so if everything stays working I will "let sleeping dogs lie"

So, So far all seems good. I have seen what Charles say is true .Window is working properly when it shut it's self off .when it detects another protection. Then on again when that other protection is removed or not functioning properly.

As long as my icon behave themselves. I then Thank you All for everything Lenny P.S. I really mean- I still Thank you All - Even if my icons do not behave!!!

 

Now you are getting down to the too the root of the problem. And by doing some MANUALL cleanup work things are looking better.

I would suggest that you remove ALL that is shown for AVG. Other wise if you try to install agian you may have probelms.

Now I have a suggestion ( unless you have already done it ) Shut down and restart the machine ( make a restore point first ) And if any problems do re-appear you will know for sure there is something in the startup group that needs to be removed.

I also suggest that you make restore points along the way. And name then something like After RM AVG. Then next one After what ever.

Believe me IT HELPS tremendously.

And once you do get thing cleanup and working and can be failrly sure that all is going to be ok, Shutdown and restart System Restore.

And I write that so that you do not make the same mistake I did. Cleaning up once is enough.

You are gaining. Keep up the good work.

OOPS !! I almost forgot. Rekseeker makes backups also.

BillyBob

 

BillyBob

That is why I was afraid to delete anything in the Registry. A lot of our fellow members do not like REGSEEKER so I became reluctant to use it unless it was absolutely necessary?

I know that it backs up deleted items, but "to be honest" I do not know how to restore if I needed to? And the program is not big on instructions or how to info.

Have you used it much? I feel quite safe deleting the Green Entrées and the ActiveX items and using search, but not much more.

P.S. don't worry about me setting restore points I'm a fanatic at those sort of things. Thanks Again & the icons don't need any discipline or beatings yet? Thanks Again------ Lenny

 

Hi Lenny,

Go to Backups and double click on the items that you want to restore. A dialog box will ask if you're sure.

I don't use it much - I have three reg cleaners.

As for safety - between the backup and SR, you should be covered.

Regards - Charles

 

I personaly have had no problems with Regseeker. I let it delete what it thinks and have had no problems YET

I also just found out something about regseeker that I was not aware of.

There s a selection for " Startup Entries. "

I checked on it and sure enough it matches Startup Cop. What to do with it I do not know right now but I sure will check.

But this is also why I make Restore Points, I have needed them a few times. But NOT due to regseeker.

OK. I do have to ask just to make sure I understand correctly.

You have retarted the machine and all was still OK ?

If that is true then enve if something were there and you deleted actully deleted the folder ) then RegSeeker may have removed it.

But if you are wondering why I kept up about the startup area I will tell you.

" I have had MANY software un-installs that DID NOT take stuff out of the startup group.

And Mr. Norton and Mrs. AVG were two of them.

This is how and why I have learned to trust NOBODY. And I double check to make sure they have done what they are supposed to. Sometimes it is Yes. And othertimes it is NO ! they did not.

But anyway. It seems like you are gaining nicely.

I gotta go get the Coffee making and get Dinner started as my Wife will be home soon. And if the Coffee is not ready LOL

BillyBob

 

I just did a quick check on Startup Item in RegSeeker.

There are several choices. I will check further later.

BillyBob

 

Lenny ...

RegSeeker works just fine with XP, except for one little quirk ... a backup file can't be restored, as written, back into XP's registry, because of the header line in the file.

If you need to restore a RegSeeker backup, first do this:

1. Open the backup file in a text editor, such as Notepad.

2. The initial line reads REGEDIT4. Change this to Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00.​

I've deleted all of my RegSeeker backups, so I can't be sure if you can do this from within Regseeker. You can do it directly on the backup file at its location in the Regseeker\Backup folder. Once the change has been made, simply double-click on the file ... doing so will merge it back into the registry.

 

To my Board Friends.

I am going to become scarce for a little while. This has been a very bad few months for me.My baby Brother will be buried on May 14th, now that the earth has thawed. He died of the Big "C" about 6 or 7 weeks ago. I flew him home from British Columbia after he was diagnosed. Nine days latter he was gone, only 49 years of age " also way too young. "

With the upcoming Funeral for Brian and My Brother "Victor Ronald Chowns" also being buried, I will be out of the picture for awhile. I do feel that the resent correspondence with you all, helped keep me preoccupied and I was able, to not dwell on things ,that I had no control over, so thank you.

However now that things and plans have materialized I have some Family obligations to look after. I will talk to everyone later. Lenny