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Discussion in 'Firefox, Thunderbird & SeaMonkey' started by TonyT, 2005/04/28.

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    TonyT

    TonyT SuperGeek Staff Thread Starter

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    Hey folks, please have a look at this site I am building, specifically I need to know how the onMouseOvers in the top list work in mozilla and netscape browsers.

    The images that display as a result f the mouseover are ONLY test images, so no comments re the images please!

    http://members.cox.net/aturrisi/compuheal/
     
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    Looks good. On the mouseovers, the colored section is not centered on the monitor. Needs to be moved up about 10%. I am using Firefox.



    Edit 29 Apr - 8:50am

    Sorry about that Tony - my version is 1.0.3. Just checked it again and is the same as before - looks like you changed or added something to the Troubleshooting link.
     
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    Thanks. Which version of Firefox, there were recent changes to the latest release that incorporate CSS fixes to it.
     
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    I checked NS7.2, and there is nothing, but Mozilla1.7.7, which the sibling of Firefox1.03 does show something. No comments? How do you know that I am not seeing things?
    So, I will tell you as I mouseover on the left the same name appears on the screen, on a colored background. And, the color is different with each link.
    Zilch in one NS7.2 install, but.....it shows up well in another. So, what is the difference? Unfortunately, I was not patient enough, to see what mattered, as the deficient copy had only half as many plugins as the other, having been installed at a later date. I know that Java was not it. I had to copy the entire plugins folder from one install to the other.
    So, Tony what do you think did the job?
     
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    Tony,

    Netscape 7.2 - Mouseover works - color doesn't cover top 10% of window
    Netscape 7.1 - Mouseover works - color doesn't cover top 10% of window

    Firefox 1.0.3 - Mouseover works - color doesn't cover top 10% of window

    Mozilla 1.7.7 - Nada - Mouseover doesn't work...

    Opera 7.5 - Mouseover works - full color in window

    Nice!

    Ramona
     
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    Thanks!
    What's really odd is I have had FF 1.03 users tell me all is well and others say the images are not positioned properly in FF 1.03. Perplexing!

    So I added absolute positioning to the <img class=" ">. Please try again and let me know if works in FF now. The images are in a <p> container w/ the <p> padding set to 0px and this works in IE to make the images fit tightly into the <p>, but maybe Mozilla(s) don't support that yet, so also added the absolute positioning to the <img> class.
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    Firefox 1.0.3

    Works good here.
     
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    Thanks, I seem to have solved the positioning issues so it works in all FF versions so far.
     
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    It works in NS8 beta as well. I did not comment on the positioning, but now it works with all my browsers. And, Moz1.7.7 worked from the onset. In fact, I got the idea that plugins may have been involved by the fact that Mozilla worked and NS7.2 compact did not, while my original 7.2 (7.2old) installation did work. Mozilla1.7.7 and NS7.2old have the same plugins.
    I spent quite a while in copy one file at a time into the 7.2 compact, but gave up after finding that Java files were not involved. I don't knot what is, but it is a difference in plugins which caused compact to fail in showing the color.
     
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    Tony,

    Netscape 7.2 - Mouseover works
    Netscape 7.1 - Mouseover works

    Firefox 1.0.3 - Mouseover works

    Mozilla 1.7.7 - Nada - Mouseover still doesn't work
    Opera 7.5 - Mouseover works

    Looks better without the frame...

    Ramona
     
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    Now, I am really getting curious. Mozilla1.7.7 was the first browser which worked for me. Now, I wish I had saved the NS7.2Compact plugins folder, instead of replacing all .dll files. So, I decided to remove the npviewpoint files, but I did not check it before, and it did not work, I replaced all Compact file with the old 7.2, nothing. With Moz1.7.7. plugins still nothing. Then, I removed the plugins folder, and replaced, still nothing. I guess I don't need compact after all. But there is something fishy going on!
     
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    afaik, netscape & firefox don't have a setting to disable the cache 100% so some browser discrepencies could be due to the browser using the css file that is cached instead of using the newly revised css file. IE has a setting to 'check for newer versions of stored page' on every visit to the page, but sometimes it still uses the cached files.

    It's really funny because I have had users of all versions of netscape, mozilla & firefox (versions in last 2 yrs) tell me different things. About 75% say all displays well in all browsers and about 25% see things differently.
     
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    Ramona

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    Tony,

    I deleted the Cache folder before checking your page with all browsers. I have batch files to do this, and it is done on log off every day. So I can say that the Cache files were clean...

    Ramona
     
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    Westside,

    FWIW, I have identical plugin folders for all Gecko browsers...

    Ramona
     
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    oops!
    You didn't see the scren image because I forgot to upload the img dir after I had edit the img paths in the html docs.
     
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    LOL! O.K., well at least I'm glad I mentioned the frame.

    You will be glad to know that the mouseover DOES work in Mozilla 1.7.7, at least here. I'm so sorry to have thrown you a curve. I had disabled JavaScript, due to a security vulnerability, and as I use Firefox exclusively, had forgotten. You can give me 30 lashes with a wet noodle... :eek:

    You get an A++ on all Gecko browsers, and Opera, from this user!

    Ramona
     
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    eureka!

    I just realized why the images look properly aligned in some browsers and not in others. It has not much to do with the browser itself, they all comply with the CSS standards I am using (which is what baffled me the most). The problem I believe is caused by the default browser setting of "automatically resize images ", which is a setting in newer mozilla browsers and also in IE.

    I have always disable that feature because I want to see what the images really look like. I never did like that feature because it hampers layout and "bypasses" the web developer. I suspect that image resizing always rounds to an even decimal width-height as well.
     
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    Tony, now we are talking, the page is looking good. And my NS7.2compact is still not working, but, considering that the other NS7.2 profile, 1.7.7, FF1.03 and two NS8 betas work, iy ain't bad. But I sure wonder what I did yesterday to make things work with Compact. Oh, yes, kmeleon 0.9 work well, also. Now, this bugs me.
    I got it! I had been disabling javascript in NS7.2, for security's sake. I restored javascript in the old profile, but not in the Compact's profile. So, disabling javascipt does something.
    Those wet noodles are getting a workout! I had just noticed Ramona's reply.
     
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    TonyT

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    Yes, javascript is used to make the dynamic effects.
    Glad you figured out what the issue was w/ your browser.
    Thanks.
    tt
     
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    Hi Tony,

    I just returned from a week's vacation, and had a v-e-r-y slow dialup connection, or I'd have chimed in sooner.

    Mouseovers work perfectly, but I have to agree with Ramona ... your page definitely looks better without the frame which, BTW, obscures some of the text. Please see the attached screenshot.

    I'm using XP Pro on both computers, SP1 on the desktop, SP2 on the laptop. Both have Firefox 1.0.4, dated 4-22, and I have JavaScript turned on on both. Hope this helps.
     
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