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    Dave932932

    Dave932932 Inactive Thread Starter

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    I've gotten a little curious in linux recently and also a bootable CD with an OS is what I need if my computer refuses to boot again..........

    So obviously I have a CD burner and a high speed internet.

    Which version is the most stable/ biggest driver libraries?

    Will it run fast with 512MB RAM?

    Can i tweak it to start up automaticlly with English and my user settings?

    How long does it take to boot?

    Does it run from a slave drive? (I have a CD writer and a DVD reader, I had an NT CD which only started up in the master, the DVD drive. Also, my DVD drive seems quieter so I might be able to burn CDs in it for data recovery.)

    Can it use USB 2.0?

    Does it support Motorola "SURFboard" modems?

    Ditto for hp deskjets.

    Networking with 98 First Edition?

    -Dave
     
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    Rockster2U

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    Am remotely familiar with 3.1 (698MB ISO) and my recommendation is to make a bootable CD and try it on your system, its not going to mess anything up unless you start making a bunch of changes to your existing Windows installation.

    Just got introduced to an even better utility which is a fully bootable CD of you guessed it - Yup - XP Pro stand alone running on a bootable CD thanks to another little utility bundled up with it. Nice Stuff! Not nearly as fast as a regular installation runing from a hard drive but talk about a useful tool ............

    ;)
     

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    Zander

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    I've got 3.70 and it runs just fine.
    It's takes a bit of time for apps to load but once they're loaded you'll not notice any difference from running off the hard drive.
    If you go here to download it you should get an English version.
    Longer than Windows but that's to be expected. After all, a cd drive isn't as fast a hard drive. All in all, it's not bad.
    It'll run from any drive that you can boot from.
    I have all of these and have never had a problem. Everythings allways worked without my having to do any configuring at all.
    I don't know. I've never tried it but I suspect it would work just fine.
     
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    Dave932932

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    It's coming through Bit Torrent now about 16% at 200K/sec. Are there any settings/files I should modify before I burning it to an CD-R?

    By the way in the time that it took to write those above sentences, it jumped to 30% and download rate to 500K/sec! *huggles cable modem*

    I'll run it from my DVD drive becuase the my cd drive sounds like a buzzsaw when it's spinning it at 48x. It's a 16x read speed for DVDs but it should be 48x for CDs, right?

    Ok i'll try booting from it and getting everything setup. :)

    Edit: So I just burn the folder to the CD? That should make it work right?
     
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    Dave932932

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    Argh!

    I got the files from a torrent connection, burned the files to a CD-R and slipped it into the DVD drive. It didn't boot to Knoppix. Both drives are IDE, the DVD drive being the master.

    This is my boot order:

    1. Removable (Floppy)
    2. CD/DVD (DVD first, CD-RW second)
    3. My 120GB Hard Drive
    4. LAN (who boots from networks?)

    I used Sonic RecordNow and just pulled the entire file onto the CD. (As a sidenote, I got XP shutdowns to 7 seconds and boot-ups to 25 seconds!)

    Should I just pull the 6 files inside on or is it something else? What am i doing wrong that won't let me boot from my DVD drive? I really want to boot from my DVD drive as it's quieter and it frees up my CD drive :rolleyes:
     
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    Zander

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    How did you burn the file? The file you downloaded is an ISO file and if you just burned the file itself to the cd it won't work. You have to burn it as an image file. I don't have RecordNow so I can't tell you how you do it with that program. In Roxio you click file>record cd from cd image. So, look around in the menus for something that refers to recording a cd from an image file. If you don't see it anywhere try searching the help file with cd image file or something similar. Maybe use ISO image file. If you do this you'll most likely find what you need to know. Let us know if you get it or not.
     
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    I just put it in with the other files so it didn't get read. But then I pulled the single knoppix file onto the Cd and RecordNow burnedd the CD.

    P.S. I'm typing this in Mozilla Firefox in Knoppix. :)

    So do you think there is any practical use for this OS day to day for a person like me? I'll probally save some settings onto a zip drive and keep this CD handy if XP doesn't boot one day.

    Thanks guys.
     
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    Zander

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    It can come in quite handy if for some reason you can't boot to windows and have to format and start over. You can use it to copy and save any data files you want to save. If you look around a bit, you'll see it has support for burning cds should you ever have to do this. It also has disk imaging software and partitioning software. The bad thing about it is that doesn't have very good support for the NTFS file system yet. It can read and copy files from NTFS systems just fine but the write support for it isn't very good. You can install support for it (write capabilities on NTFS) while Knoppix is running but I have yet to be successful in getting it to work. My experiences with this up to this point pretty much match what I've read about it on the net. Not very good. They say better support for it is coming however so we'll have to wait to see. If however, the computer you're using it on uses one of the FAT file systems you can both read and write files using it (the disk imaging software comes in handy here).
     
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    TonyT

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    There are also many many command line utilities that can be used for:
    1. security analysis
    2. network tshooting
    3. network mgmt
    4. reset your NT admin password (enables one to boot ANY NT system even if do not know admin password)
    5. edit NT registry while booted into linux.

    It's also a good tool when kids or guests want to use your computer. Pop in the cd & boot and they cannot ***** up your windows system.

    I tried many live cds like this, they are most all built on top of Debian Linux, so I ended up installing Debian on an older computer with apache, php & mysql. I use it for my business' databases. And I have only the software installed that I want/need. Knoppix is a great intro to Linux, but it's very bloated w/ stuff you'll never ever use. Try some of the live cd's that are 50-100 MB, they are a whole lot faster and when booting can load everything into RAM, which is faster than your cdrom and way faster than your hard drive.
     
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