How do I update my processor???

I guess what I'm really asking is how do I determine what processors will work with my motherboard? I have an Asus P5A which currently runs on the AMD K6 3D 475mhz. I need a minimum of 800mhz, but have no clue what else to look for.

Any help would be much appreciated!

Thanks,
Shannon

 

So if I'm reading this table correctly, the highest speed this motherboard can support is 550mhz?

The following table shows the support for CPU / Motherboard


CPU Since PCB Since BIOS Memo
K5-PR 75/90MHz ALL 1011.005
K5-PR 120/133MHz ALL 1011.005
K6-PR 200MHz ALL 1011.005
K6-PR 233MHz ALL 1011.005
K6-PR 266MHz ALL 1011.005
K6-PR 300MHz ALL 1011.005
K6-2/266MHz ALL 1011.005
K6-2/300MHz ALL 1011.005
K6-2/333MHz ALL 1011.005
K6-2/350MHz ALL 1011.005
K6-2/366MHz ALL 1011.005
K6-2/380MHz ALL 1011.005
K6-2/400MHz ALL 1011.005
K6-2/450MHz ALL 1011.005
K6-2/475MHz ALL 1011.005
K6-2/500MHz 1.06 1011.005
K6-2/533MHz 1.06 1011.005 Clock Generator must be ICS-9148AF-133
K6-2/550MHz 1.06 1011.005
K6-III/400MHz 1.03 1011.005
K6-III/450MHz 1.03 1011.005
Cyrix 6x86 PR166+ Rev.2.7 ALL 1011.005
Cyrix MII-300 (66MHz FSB) ALL 1011.005
Cyrix MII-333 ALL 1011.005
P54C 90MHz Pentium ALL 1011.005
P54C 100MHz Pentium ALL 1011.005
P54C 120MHz Pentium ALL 1011.005
P54C 133MHz Pentium ALL 1011.005
P54C 150MHz Pentium ALL 1011.005
P54C 166MHz Pentium ALL 1011.005
P54C 200MHz Pentium ALL 1011.005
P55C 200MHz Pentium with MMX ALL 1011.005
P55C 233MHz Pentium with MMX ALL 1011.005

 

Major disappointment!!! I need a minimum of 800mhz.... so that means I have to rebuild completely?

 

Just upgraded the memory and video card this past week. My son just received the newest Sims game and I am tired of sharing our main computer w/him to play his games.... so I thought I'd upgrade our older computer so he can play on that one. It never crossed my mind that the cpu wouldn't be fast enough, or that the m/b wouldn't be upgradeable to our needs. It's a home-built computer that we put together about 5 years ago. The m/b is an Asus P5A, currently running 320mb SDRAM Dimm, installed nVidia GeForce 4 128mb graphics card, using Sound Blaster PCI 128, Samsung DVD/CDRom combo, Win XP.

Do you have any recommendations on a relatively inexpensive, yet decent m/b and processor that would be compatible with the above?

Thanks!
Shannon

 

Everst Info

I ran Everest on the computer in question and am posting the results of the hardware scan below. Based on this information, can you suggest a m/b and cpu that will allow me to utilize all the other components that I already have, including the case? I'd like to keep this upgrade as inexpensive and simple as possible, while getting the speed that I need. I appreciate your help very much!

~Shannon
(the info posted below is only part of the report, but it appeared to be the "meat" of the report about the system itself. If you need more information please let me know! )

Computer:
Operating System Windows XP Home Edition
OS Service Pack Service Pack 1
Internet Explorer 6.0.2800.1106 (IE 6.0 SP1)
DirectX 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)

Motherboard:
CPU Type AMD K6-2, 475 MHz (5 x 95)
Motherboard Name Asus P5A (2 ISA, 5 PCI, 1 AGP, 3 DIMM)
Motherboard Chipset ULi/ALi M1541 ALADDiN 5
System Memory 320 MB (SDRAM)
BIOS Type Award Modular (07/16/99)
Communication Port Communications Port (COM1)
Communication Port Communications Port (COM2)
Communication Port ECP Printer Port (LPT1)

Display:
Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 4000 (128 MB)
3D Accelerator nVIDIA GeForce4 MX 4000
Monitor HP D5258A Pavilion M50 (90890835303)

Multimedia:
Audio Adapter Ensoniq ES1371 AudioPCI-97 Sound Card

Storage:
IDE Controller ALi M5229 PCI Bus Master IDE Controller
SCSI/RAID Controller Adaptec AHA-2940/2940W PCI SCSI Controller
Floppy Drive Floppy disk drive
Disk Drive WDC WD136AA (12 GB, IDE)
Disk Drive IOMEGA ZIP 100 (94 MB, IDE)
Optical Drive TSSTcorp CDW/DVD TS-H492A
SMART Hard Disks Status OK

Partitions:
C: (NTFS) 12966 MB (7817 MB free)

Input:
Keyboard PC/AT Enhanced PS/2 Keyboard (101/102-Key)
Mouse Microsoft PS/2 Mouse

Network:
Modem Generic 56K HCF Data Fax Modem

Peripherals:
USB1 Controller ULi/ALi M5237 USB Open Host Controller


--------[ DMI ]---------

[ Motherboard ]

Motherboard Properties:
Manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer INC.
Product P5A
Version REV 1.XX
Serial Number MB-1234567890

[ Chassis ]

Chassis Properties:
Manufacturer Chassis Manufacture
Version Chassis Version
Serial Number Chassis Serial Number
Asset Tag Asset-1234567890

[ Memory Controller ]

Memory Controller Properties:
Error Detection Method None
Error Correction None
Supported Memory Interleave 1-Way
Current Memory Interleave 1-Way
Supported Memory Speeds 70ns, 60ns, 50ns
Supported Memory Types FPM, EDO, Parity, DIMM, SDRAM
Supported Memory Voltages 5V, 3.3V
Maximum Memory Module Size 256 MB
Memory Slots 6

[ Processors / AMD K6-2 ]

Processor Properties:
Manufacturer AMD
Version AMD K6-2
External Clock 95 MHz
Maximum Clock 500 MHz
Current Clock 475 MHz
Type Central Processor
Voltage 3.3 V
Status Enabled
Upgrade ZIF
Socket Designation SOCKET 7

[ Caches / L1 Cache ]

Cache Properties:
Type Internal
Status Enabled
Operational Mode Write-Back
Maximum Size 64 KB
Installed Size 64 KB
Socket Designation L1 Cache

[ Caches / L2 Cache ]

Cache Properties:
Type External
Status Enabled
Operational Mode Write-Back
Maximum Size 1024 KB
Installed Size 512 KB
Supported SRAM Type Pipeline Burst
Current SRAM Type Pipeline Burst
Socket Designation L2 Cache

[ Memory Modules / DIMM1-2 ]

Memory Module Properties:
Socket Designation DIMM1-2
Type EDO, DIMM
Speed 70 ns
Installed Size Not Installed
Enabled Size Not Installed

[ Memory Modules / DIMM2-1 ]

Memory Module Properties:
Socket Designation DIMM2-1
Type DIMM
Speed 70 ns
Installed Size 128 MB
Enabled Size 128 MB

[ Memory Modules / DIMM2-2 ]

Memory Module Properties:
Socket Designation DIMM2-2
Type EDO, DIMM
Speed 70 ns
Installed Size Not Installed
Enabled Size Not Installed

[ Memory Modules / DIMM3-1 ]

Memory Module Properties:
Socket Designation DIMM3-1
Type DIMM
Speed 70 ns
Installed Size 64 MB
Enabled Size 64 MB

[ Memory Modules / DIMM3-2 ]

Memory Module Properties:
Socket Designation DIMM3-2
Type EDO, DIMM
Speed 70 ns
Installed Size Not Installed
Enabled Size Not Installed

[ System Slots / PCI Slot1 ]
Slot Designation PCI Slot1
Type PCI
Usage In Use
Data Bus Width 32-bit
Length Long

[ System Slots / PCI Slot2 ]
Slot Designation PCI Slot2
Type PCI
Usage Empty
Data Bus Width 32-bit
Length Long

[ System Slots / PCI Slot3 ]
Slot Designation PCI Slot3
Type PCI
Usage In Use
Data Bus Width 32-bit
Length Long

[ System Slots / PCI Slot4 ]
Slot Designation PCI Slot4
Type PCI
Usage In Use
Data Bus Width 32-bit
Length Long

[ System Slots / PCI Slot5 ]
Slot Designation PCI Slot5
Type PCI
Usage In Use
Data Bus Width 32-bit
Length Long

[ System Slots / ISA Slot1 ]
Slot Designation ISA Slot1
Type ISA
Data Bus Width 16-bit
Length Long

[ System Slots / ISA Slot2 ]
Slot Designation ISA Slot2
Type ISA
Data Bus Width 16-bit
Length Long

[ Port Connectors / COM A ]
Port Type Serial Port 16550A Compatible
Internal Reference Designator COM1
Internal Connector Type 9 Pin Dual Inline (pin 10 cut)
External Reference Designator COM A
External Connector Type DB-9 pin male

[ Port Connectors / COM B ]
Port Type Serial Port 16550A Compatible
Internal Reference Designator COM2
Internal Connector Type 9 Pin Dual Inline (pin 10 cut)
External Reference Designator COM B
External Connector Type DB-25 pin male

[ Port Connectors / LPT ]
Port Type Parallel Port ECP/EPP
Internal Reference Designator PRINTER
Internal Connector Type 25 Pin Dual Inline (pin 26 cut)
External Reference Designator LPT
External Connector Type DB-25 pin female

[ Port Connectors / KEYBOARD ]
Port Type Keyboard Port
Internal Reference Designator KEY
Internal Connector Type None
External Reference Designator KEYBOARD
External Connector Type Micro-DIN

[ Port Connectors / PS/2 Mouse ]
Port Type Mouse Port
Internal Reference Designator PS2MOUSE
Internal Connector Type Proprietary
External Reference Designator PS/2 Mouse
External Connector Type Micro-DIN

[ Port Connectors / IDE-1 ]
Port Type None
Internal Reference Designator PRIMARY IDE
Internal Connector Type On-Board IDE
External Reference Designator IDE-1
External Connector Type None

[ Port Connectors / IDE-2 ]
Port Type None
Internal Reference Designator SECONDARY IDE
Internal Connector Type On-Board IDE
External Reference Designator IDE-2
External Connector Type None

[ Port Connectors / FLOPPY ]
Port Type None
Internal Reference Designator FLOPPY
Internal Connector Type On-Board Floppy
External Reference Designator FLOPPY
External Connector Type None

--------[ Overclock ]------

CPU Properties:
CPU Type AMD K6-2
CPU Alias Chomper Extended, K6-2-CXT
CPU Stepping CXT/A
CPUID CPU Name AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor
CPUID Revision 0000058Ch

CPU Speed:
CPU Clock 475.45 MHz
CPU Multiplier 5.0x
CPU FSB 95.09 MHz
Memory Bus 95.09 MHz

CPU Cache:
L1 Code Cache 32 KB
L1 Data Cache 32 KB
L2 Cache 0

Motherboard Properties:
Motherboard ID 07/16/99-ALADDIN5-<<P5A>>-00
Motherboard Name Asus P5A (2 ISA, 5 PCI, 1 AGP, 3 DIMM)

Chipset Properties:
Motherboard Chipset ULi/ALi M1541 ALADDiN 5
Memory Timings 3-3-2-6 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)

BIOS Properties:
System BIOS Date 07/16/99
Video BIOS Date 01/17/03
Award BIOS Type Award Modular BIOS v4.51PG
Award BIOS Message ASUS P5A ACPI BIOS Revision 1007.A

Graphics Processor Properties:
DirectX 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)
Video Adapter nVIDIA GeForce4 MX 4000
GPU Code Name NV18B (AGP 4x 10DE / 0185, Rev C1)
GPU Clock 274 MHz
Memory Clock 165 MHz

Sensor Properties:
Tsystem 31 °C (88 °F)
Tcpu 35 °C (95 °F)
Fcpu 6250 RPM
Vcore 2.40 V
Vaux 2.40 V
Vio 3.54 V

--------[ Power Management
Power Management Properties:
Current Power Source AC Line
Battery Status No Battery
Full Battery Lifetime Unknown
Remaining Battery Lifetime Unknown

--------[ Sensor ]-----------
Sensor Properties:
Sensor Type Winbond W83781D (ISA 290h)

Temperatures:
Motherboard 31 °C (88 °F)
CPU 32 °C (90 °F)

Cooling Fans:
CPU 6250 RPM

Voltage Values:
CPU Core 2.40 V
CPU Aux 2.40 V
+3.3 V 3.54 V
+5 V 5.03 V
+12 V 11.98 V
-12 V -12.52 V
-5 V -5.06 V
Debug Info V 96 96 DD BB C5 E1 D2 1F (01)
Debug Info T 31 32 208

--------[ CPU ]---------------
CPU Properties:
CPU Type AMD K6-2, 475 MHz (5 x 95)
CPU Alias Chomper Extended, K6-2-CXT
CPU Stepping CXT/A
Instruction Set x86, MMX, 3DNow!
L1 Code Cache 32 KB
L1 Data Cache 32 KB
L2 Cache 0

CPU Physical Info:
Package Type 321 Pin PGA
Package Size 4.95 cm x 4.95 cm
Transistors 9.3 million
Process Technology 5Mi, 0.25 um, CMOS
Die Size 81 mm2
Core Voltage 2.2 - 2.4 V
I/O Voltage 3.3 V
Typical Power 8.1 - 17.8 W (depending on clock speed)
Maximum Power 13.5 - 29.6 W (depending on clock speed)

CPU Manufacturer:
Company Name Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Product Information http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118,00.html

CPU Utilization:
CPU #1 100 %

Problems & Suggestions:
Problem No CPU L2 cache found. This may cause performance penalty.

 

Shenanagins,

1. Your motherboard uses an AT power supply. A mb that uses an 800 MHZ CPU will use an ATX power supply. They are Totally different animals so that means a new power supply as well as mb and cpu. Since the case is also an AT case, you need to replace that to go with the ATX power supply. You will also need new memory for the new mb and CPU.

2. As you can see, the changes are pointing to a new system.

George

 

So are you saying that there aren't any motherboards that can utilize the SDRAM chips that I just purchased, either? This is starting to give me a headache! *sigh* Any ideas - ballpark figures - on estimated cost to replace the m/b, cpu, powersupply and case?

Thanks!
Shannon

 

Thanks Pete! Any thoughts on buying parts off Ebay?

~Shannon

 

Really?
My Asus P5A board uses an ATX power-supply and that's all that ASUS refers to in the online version of the manual...

Of course, that current ATX power supply may not pack enough juice for a new processor so a new ATX power supply may still be in order.

Cheers,

ICE

 

Pete,
Can you give me any suggestions on what m/b and cpu would be best to look for, and will I need to upgrade the power supply and case, as suggested in another post? Is there a m/b that can utilize the RAM and graphics card I already have?

You continued patience and help in this thread is much appreciated!
~Shannon

 

Suggestions

Shenanigans: I have personally had good luck with all my Ebay transactions and would suggest it as a cost efficient way to get where you want to be.
The minimum you need will put you in the socket 370 category for Intel processors. The 370 is either a P3 or Celeron processor with speeds up to 1.1 Ghz. My knowledge of comparable AMD based systems is lacking.
Have attached a link to give you a cost idea. The board/processor up for auction should accept all your existing hardware(video/memory) but it is wise to check with the board manufacturer for compatability.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=42006&item=6755351357&rd=1

Regards

 

shenanigins, Pete,

Hi,
Let me do some shopping (for about an hour) and I'll get back with some suggestions.