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Firefox 1.0.2 Released

Discussion in 'Firefox, Thunderbird & SeaMonkey' started by Ramona, 2005/03/23.

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    Ramona

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    Ramona,

    Thanks for the heads up. I am using Firefox 1.0.1 now. I checked the Mozilla site to see if I should uninstall 1.0.1 before installing 1.0.2 but couldn't find anything specific. Do you know if the uninstall is necessary or will .2 simply install over .1?
     

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    Ramona

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    Virginia,

    You should uninstall 1.0.1 before installing 1.0.2. There is a "Sticky" at the top of the Forum: Firefox and Thunderbird Upgrading FAQ. You might want to read them first...

    Ramona
     
  5. 2005/03/23
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    Virginia,
    if you want only 1.02, do the uninstall. I was testing the preview, and I have 1.01 and 1.02 installed in separate directories, and opened with their own profile, minding their own business. Eventually, I got the 1.02 final which I installed on top of the preview (if they were, at all, different, I have only one 1.02). Then, I uninstall 1.01. But, never on top!
     
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    Ramona,

    Thanks for the response - and thanks for not scolding me for not looking at the "sticky" first. After I looked at the sticky, I even remembered looking at it earlier. My short term memory is getting shorter. And my long term memory - what's that?
     
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    I imagine that most of the folks here who typically use the zip versions are already aware of the following, but for those intermediate users like myself, I thought I'd pass this on:
    (taken from http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/007797.html)

    We're no longer shipping windows zipped builds because they were too problematic. Our update mechanism serves installer builds and serves tens of millions of people. Many zipped build users (several million of them already exist, by my rough estimates) got hosed by the 1.0.1 update which installed Firefox over their zipped install and left them with a completely broken browser.
    Discontinuing the zipped builds (which were created for testing, not for end users) will prevent that kind of problem from spreading to millions more users. It will also simplify our test matrix for the app and for the update system, something that desperately needs to happen if we're going to move forward in improving both.
    There are a lot of people who prefer the zipped builds. I've tried to address a few of those below:
    "I don't have permission on this system to use installers" - there are a couple of workarounds here. First, you could just get the zipped nightly build that corresponds to the final release (look at the build ID in the final release, and get the same nightly build from the same branch and you're set). There is nothing magical about the release build. It is the exact same nightly build bits that we QA'd with a new file name and location on FTP. The second answer is to make a "zipped" build of your own. Just install the installer and don't run it, then zip up the Firefox directory and carry that around.
    [Note: there's lots more to the above, I'm only quoting it as far as it serves my purpose!]

    The user feedback at the mozillazine site is kinda fierce, and I don't mean to carry any of that over to this forum, but I would like to know if anyone could either enlighten me about the option of using "nightly builds" (is there somewhere I can get the equivalent of FF 1.0.2 zip there?), or give me specific instructions about how to make a zipped build of my own.
    Thanks!
     
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    Ramona

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    rebecca,

    You can find the latest Firefox nightly Zip file here:
    http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/

    I confess I know very little about the nightly's other than what others report. I much prefer to wait until a RC is available. I have tried a few nightly versions, but only when reported to be quite stable.

    I note that in Asa's Weblog, he suggests installing, not opening, and zipping the Firefox folder. Have you tried it? I would ask at MozillaZine, as the members there are often familiar with programming.

    Ramona

    P.S. I have no memory, so it would be too hard to remember what you asked! Did you ask me something? :D
     
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    rebecca,

    Here is another link which is more than likely what you want:
    ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/2005-03-14-17-aviary1.0.1/

    Ramona

    EDIT:
    From a comment on Asa's Weblog:

    For all those massively frustrated with the way things are at the moment. Here is a great tip:
    http://mozillazine.org/talkback.html?article=6281#36
    which should help alleviate the pain slightly. It won't help everyone, but it does mean you can create the zip from the installer without having to do the install first.
    Posted by: kam_yuen on March 24, 2005 10:52 AM
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    So rebecca, here's how to get your Zip file.
     
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    About the nightlys...

    That nightly is from the trunk. The trunk is where the active Firefox development thaks place. This is not the same as the Firefox 1.0.2 release. The Trunk builds will be Firefox 1.0+. If you download that, you may find major crash bugs, ect. This isn't recomended for everyday users.

    This is what you want. This build will be version 1.0.2; it's built from the same "Aviary" branch that Firefox 1.0 and 1.0.1 was built from. It should have the same features/stability as Firefox 1.0 and 1.0.1.

    Just one thing about this build... This the latest ZIP Aviray(1.0.2) build avalable, it was built on March 14, while the final 1.0.2 build was built on March 17.

    I have used the March 14 zipped build, and it is very stable and usable.

    Here is a direct link to the March 14 Firefox 1.0.2 ZIP build: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.o...-17-aviary1.0.1/firefox-1.0.2.en-US.win32.zip
     
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    For the first time Firefox alerted me there was an upgrade, and I just clicked go, so 0.2 installed over 0.1. No problems seen yet. I have previously uninstalled before installing a new version.

    I believe this was necessary becuase of a bug in the install program.

    Any comments, Ramona?
     
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    Ramona

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    Am I the only one who's getting tired of doing a fresh uninstall of the browser, possibly goofing up your extensions and themes, every time there's a security update? I mean, if we had to do this with IE, you can only imagine the amount of complaints that would be voiced. I'm rather surprised that this is still going on after its no longer beta/0.9.
     
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    Tired, yes. But FF is still developing, and I don't mind it. I have been working with Netscape, Mozilla, etc forever, and I accept it as a fact of life. I very much prefer to have a relatively small download and then an install, that adding patches after patches, which are usually left in place.
    As for Firefox, it is a victim of its extentions, which mostly developed by someone who is not involved with the browser development. Extentions are not a god-given right in any way.
    But, everything depends on one's point of view.
     
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    Hi Psaulm119

    I have to agree with you. I've never understood why it was done this way but then... there are a lot of things I just don't understand. The periodic breaking of extensions and themes when updates were forthcoming, it seems to me, is part of the Achilles' heel of Mozilla's open source. I mentioned this a while back... concerned that unless tighter central control could be exerted, the eventual appearance of IE 7 might spell the demise of Mozilla. I just don't understand why patching for security glitches can't be done rather than downloads and reinstalls. But as I said... I'm not that computer literate and I'll accept the wisdom of Ramona in this regard. I'm all for Mozilla in whatever flavor it presents itself. But I recognize that the vast number of desktops still have Windows and Internet Explorer even though Firefox has made great recent inroads. The question is: what will happen when IE 7 comes?
     
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    James,

    You make a valid point, and I am not so naive that I believe that Mozilla, Firefox, and Thunderbird will surpass IE. However, I feel that we should keep the morale high in the Gecko community, and as of this period of time, I am very optimistic about the future of Firefox and Thunderbird.

    Ramona
     
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    I admire your judgement. :cool:

    Honestly, I have more faith in the Mozilla community/movement than some folks--Nichols IIRC at eweek wrote an article stating that Mozilla was in trouble, between reviewers going AWOL and IE7. Even if IE7 does contain tabbed browsing, I still won't move--the password manager alone saves me from a $30 shareware purchase. And Firefox will still have other great features and advantages. As far as the public is concerned, I would side with Ramona and suggest that we probably won't get 51% market share. But that's ok. By providing IE with competition, we can spur improvements in that browser, and quite possibly, if our market share is significant (yet not a majority), we can still force web designers to code their sites according to standards, so nobody is locked into one OS-browser combo. Even if IE7 is great, it will slow the rate of growth of FF but not cut off its growth. Besides, now that Ben Goodger is working for Google, I'm suspecting that however laggardly things get at the Mozilla Foundation, there will be a Gbrowser waiting in the wings to take the great browser that FF is, and give it the incredible PR that only Google could. Honestly that would be a browser war to witness would it not?
     
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    I agree (see how agreeable I am! :rolleyes: )

    Seriously, I tend to be cynical about a lot of things and that often causes me to be misunderstood... as though I were opposed to something when in fact, I desperately want it to happen. I'm certain Mozilla will continue to grow and even flourish given the nature of the beast. I tend to still think that it needs to exercise greater control over extensions/themes/updates and the manner in which all occur.

    Hey... I've actually purchased not one... not two... not three... but four Netscape browsers over the years... along with books and paraphernalia. I'm a fan, Guys! :)
     
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    James, now you are going overboard. But, I confess of having purchased 4.72, and the book. I was having serious problems with 4.7, and, for some reason things got fixed. But, I got nothing out of the book. Don't encourage them!
     
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    LOL... want to hear something really dreadful, Westside? I actually purchased IE 4! Uh huh! It cost me $40 back when it first made an appearance. Don't ask why... but I went out and bought the cd to install it. It makes me blush to remember this bit of stupidity. :rolleyes:
     
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