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How do I access the local net work via a dial in connection

Discussion in 'Networking (Hardware & Software)' started by Codecutter, 2005/03/19.

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  1. 2005/03/19
    Codecutter

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    How do I access the local net work via a dial in connection

    I have a local peer to peer network which sits behind a router, with broadband acess to an ISP. The router assigns local network addresses in the range 192.168.2.xx

    OS is Win 2000 pro and Win XP pro

    Dialling into the network, using the public telephone system, from a Laptop, the workstation accepts the incoming dial up line and assigns a server address of 169.254.148.119 and a workstation address of 169.254.234.107

    Thus, the Laptop cannot see the network and only a few limited resources on the workstation.

    (1) How do I reconfigure so the Laptop can see the entire network, that is all 192.168.2.xx connections?
    (2) How do I reconfigure so that the Laptop has access to the broadband (ie. the Net) beyond the router?

    If I could "force" the laptop to come in on a 192.168.2.xx address then surely that would be o.k., except I don't seem to be able to do this.

    I'm sure you guys have answered this before. Any answers much appreciated.

    Many thanks
     
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    Netgear has a router better suited for this application.

    The FWG114P has an RS-232 modem port, and a USB printer port for printer sharing. The router has rollover capability, so that if your broadband connection fails, it will dial out and set up a 56k or ISDN connection until the broadband comes back. The router also allows you to dial in and connect as if you are your own ISP.

    Which system has 2000, and which XP?
     

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    Codecutter

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    All the nodes I'm talking about here, have XP. The Win 200 workstations don't play a part in this problem.
     
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    It's been a while since I have done this.

    The last time I did this was on an NT box in the mid 90's. But if I remember correctly, you have to install the RIP service which came with NT. I don't know if RIP comes with XP. I cannot find it on the 2000 machine that I am on now. The other computer that I have here is an XP Home.

    Let me do some research and I will be back....

    I found the RIP service in Add/Remove Windows Components. Try that out on the desktops modem connection.

    I also found this article that might help.
     
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    Hi

    I located and install RIP LIstener, but I am at a loss as to how best to configure it. It seems to amount to a software rerouting of the incoming dial up line into the local area network i.e. the 192.168.2.xx network addresses. The documentation seems to indicate using the RRAC or the NETSH command. But precisely where do you go from here?
     
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    Hi,
    First the address asigned to the laptop is APIPA address "169.254.xx.xx ", if you want to use the address 192.168.xx.xx make sure that your network have DHCP with that addesses scope, or assign alternative address for the laptop i.e:192.168.xx.xx and assign static IP address for all your network workstation with the same net ID, i.e: 192.168.xx.xx.
     
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    Codecutter

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    Hi Zerobyte

    I have DHCP enabled and my router is stable and performs fine. I use automatic address allocation. My router allocates network addresses in the range 192.168.2.xx.

    When the laptop accesses a working station it comes in on a AIPA adress 169.254.xxx.xx which I assume is allocated to the modem connection by Win XP.

    As this connection bypasses the router, by coming in over the modem, it does not "see" the router. The RIP protocol as suggested by Close_Hauled seems the way to go but I can't quite get the code right. I just don't know enough about Network protocols.
     
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    Set your Incoming Connection TCP/IP Properties to assign a range of address (Incoming Connection > Networking > TCP/IP > Properties). Do NOT use 192.168.2.xx since the PC that is being dialed into is acting as a router. Try 192.168.5.1 to 192.168.5.5 or something like that.

    The 169.254.xx.xx address is being assigned because there is not a DHCP server running on that segment.

    DRD
     
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    Codecutter

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    Hi NetDoc

    Thanks for this. I have the addresse assign, i.e. using 192.168.5.1 thru to 192.168.5.5 and that seem to be running fine. I dial in and the pc acting as the server is 192.168.5.1 and the laptop is 192.168.5.2

    The status is this.

    RIP LIstener is running on all nodes and the laptop.

    Each node on the LAN network can now see the dial in laptop, but will not give it access. The diagnostic from XP is that the Laptop does not have permission and that no network connection is established.

    The laptop can see just the PC (node) it dialled into. It cannot acces the LAN net work, but can access the PC it dialled into.

    Any further suggestions?
     
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    Is routing enabled on the host machine? On your "Incoming Connection" there is a check box to "allow callers to access my local area network. "

    Does the host have a default gateway set on the LAN card that points to 192.168.5.1?

    DRD
     
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    Codecutter

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    Hi Netdoc

    Thanks for coming back.

    The check box on the incoming connection "Allow others to make private connections..." is ticked.

    The default gateway on the LAN card on the Host is set to 192.168.2.1 , not 192.168.5.1. It points to my external router and is assigned by the DHCP running on that segment.
     
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    That's all good, but the system also has to know how to get "back" to the dial-in connection when responding. If the internal network does not have a defined gateway back, it will not work. The traffic might be coming in, but not know how to get back. Try pinging from the dial-in to an internal system (e.g 192.168.2.1) and see if there is a response. Aklso try pinging the LAN card address on the Host from the dial-in. Lack of response could indicate no routing info coming back.

    If possible, also have an internal system ping the dial-in connection.

    DRD
     
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