Lost firefox 1.0.1

Unfortunately the Netscape/Mozilla uninstall doesn't remove all Registry Keys. Most of the Registry entries recorded from the ZipInstall are from the the options in Edit | Preferences | Advanced | System.

The Netscape/Mozilla Champions do not consider this as writing to the Registry. The Mozilla Book states the following:

I believe mikewanca covered the Shockwave issue quite thoroughly.

Ramona

Ramona

 

Hi Christer,

I know that Add/Remove uses the software's uninstaller
Sure, I understand that, put that there for anyone that was under any sort of illusion that it was the OS that did the uninstalling.

Regards - Charles

 

Was that for me?
I never said that windows did the uninstalling. I said that the problem was in mozilla installer and talked about its "suicide" option.

So after reading all comments, I now believe that the installer is the best option for windows. Back to my first idea.

I too have programs running that didn't need some installer. But that's because they don't need to get integrated into several parts of Windows. They run alone cos they don't link to any other installed programs. They are self-sufficient.
That's not the case of an internet browser which will need to be linked to other installed applications such as shockwave and all. If that program doesn't record itself in the registry then it won't know where the shockwave program is on my particular computer with its particular application paths. My particular registry entries. Windows won't understand what firefox is asking for.
To avoid any confusion, I'd rather let an installer get all the the job done by itself : "oh just go and check all the registry entries by yourself, all you'll ever need to know is in here! ".
Yes, I've seen big programs running perfectly without having to run any installer... Just copy the program folder to another hardrive and the program is installed... on a MAC computer.
We're talking windows here. Windows loves its registry. What happens when I click on a program? Windows checks the registry to check what that click is requesting and how its got do it. If I change the shockwave default folder, the registry will be updated and programs requesting it will still be able to find it without a pb, automatically. Well that's the theory when windows is in a nice mood .
So I'll stay in the mozilla-installer club.

 

Hi Not_a_quitter,

No, I got your point.

These threads are and will be refered to by search engines - that's what that was for.

Regards - Charles

 

More about Shockwave

Originally posted by Ramona:

Methinks it should have said "...some registry entries do not get created."

What steps, Ramona? I couldn't find the Mozilla Book you refer to, and the only such reference I could find had no information about Shockwave.

Not thoroughly enough, unfortunately, but it's really not Mike's fault. The Mozilla Registry page cited in the quote about Macromedia Shockwave Player is completely out of date, and the Registry entries on the page's View Registry Entries link are worthless, at least for Firefox.

It's true that Firefox .zip builds don't create the Registry entries necessary to run Shockwave, nor does the Shockwave installer provide the necessary plugins for a .zip version. However, there's a way around that for those of us who don't wish to use the installer (.exe) versions.

The plugin files required by Shockwave are np32dsw.dll and ShockwavePlugin.class. I wasn't able to find them available for download anywhere on the net, so I've done it myself ... you can find them here, if you need them. Just click on the filename and select "Save to Disk ". When you've downloaded the two files (the third one, NPSWF32.dll, is the Flash plugin), move them to Firefox's plugins folder and run the Shockwave installer, which you can download from Macromedia.

When you're done, you can test both the Shockwave player and the Flash player here. If you want some fun with Shockwave, see here and here. The Prentice Hall page doesn't render properly in FF, but the projects are fun to play with.

I strongly suggest that you keep a copy of FF's plugins folder somewhere outside the program folder. When you unzip a new FF version/build, all you have to do is copy the plugins from your archive folder to the new FF plugins folder.

HTH, and I hope we can give this subject a rest for awhile!

 

Hello,

Just wanted to add why I was confused when I got a notice from FF. I had heard that you should uninstall first, then install 1.01, but when I read the following, I assumed that FF made some changes -- and I trusted them to know what they were doing.

This was the message from the Mozilla website:

The new Firefox autoupdate should be available around March 7th. Firefox 1.0 users who aren't experienced in handling profiles during the uninstall/reinstall process may want to wait. Autoupdate will install the 1.0.1 patch automatically and preserve all current settings, without the need to uninstall/reinstall. The Autoupdate feature should already be set on, as it is the default setting for Firefox 1.0. You can check for proper settings through: TOOLS ... OPTIONS ... ADVANCED ... SOFTWARE UPDATES ... check the boxes for "Periodically Check for Updates" for Firefox and My Extensions/Themes. Another setting to check is TOOLS ... OPTIONS ... WEB FEATURES ... CHECK "allow site to install software "