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CPU Load 100% Windows 98SE

Discussion in 'PC Hardware' started by jackpan, 2005/03/02.

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    You asked. I will do my best .

    It makes much less work for the install. And it has always worked better for me that way. Somtimes newer Video drivers and Windows setup do not get along well. ( been there ) Also it may be a case of " better safe than sorry "

    I have seen places where they also recommended disabling the Audio.

    The SUD is MUCH MORE usefull than that.

    #1 the Startuo disk can be used to boot the machine ANY TIME. I have also used it to boot the machine and use Deltree ( DOS ) to get rid of folder and/or files that Windows would not allow me to. EVEN IN XP PRO.

    It can be used to boot up and format an HD. Plus I have made mine capable of doing a Scanreg /Restore.

    If you boot to the CDROM or Or boot to the SUD and just type SETUP ( from the CD ) you are allowing Microsoft to control YOUR MACHINE. With no ( or very little ) choice.

    By booting to the SUD and run setup from the Win98 folder ( or the Win98 folder from the HD if you have same ) YOU AS THE USER have MUCH more control.

    Why not just insert to install CD, go to RUN and type in D:/setup.

    If you do this ( assumming you mean Type " Run " from the Start Run line ) you have Windows already loaded which can, will, and does stop the reinstall from overwriting files correctly. Thereby not allowing the reintall to do what we wish it too.

    And there may also be programs rrunning that hinder the install by not shutting down correctly.

    And also if you boot from the HD to run the setup unless you watch CAREFULLYthere is a chance ( strong one ) that it will reinstall Windows to A NEW FOLDER. ie: C:\Windows001. OUCH !! Trouble ahead in that case.

    You still need to watch but, Booting fron the SUD will HELP to prevent this as it does not even know that there is an exixting Windows installed and will go to the default C:\Windows folder.

    At least I have never had it do otherwise. That is not to say that it won't though. So watch carfeully as the screens go by. In other words DON'T get in a HURRY Take your time and read the screens as they go by.

    Again I say. CONGRATES to you for hanging in there and at least trying to find the problem. I think in a way that all involved in this post may be helped in some way. Like who would normally think of a 2nd install. I know I never thought of it.

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    CONGRATULATIONS for sensible thinking are in order.

    Although ( hang on to your hat ) the HD that is in my Wifes machine started as a Win95 then to 95 OSR2 and now has 98SE WITHOUT any formating.

    The HD in this machine is a COPY of that one and now has XP Pro on it.

    If you wish to call me a " GAMBLER " I will not argue a bit.

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    Yes it sure can. That is another reason for setting the video back to VGA. Less confusion for the install.

    I have not had the problems with a Windows install, but sure have with some of the newer Software installs.

    BTW. I kept these replys separated deliberately.

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    I have always run a reinstall from booting with a startup disk. From my reading, it is not possible to install an OS from itself, you need to be running in a separate OS. If files are in use at the time they will not be overwritten, so running a reinstall from within Windows could not acheive a full "reinstall ". All methods or recommendations on reinstall I have seen say boot to startup disk.

    I have done quite a few reinstalls and even if they could not repair the problem, the system was never left in "worse shape" afterwards.

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    mattman

    I myself apply the same thought to an UPGRADE. And for much the same reason. In use files will not get overwritten. Upgrade or not if it is a file of the same name.

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    You people are something else! I never dreamed I would get this many responses. Some people in the world today won't give you the correct time of day. The amount of time all of you spent replying to my questions is amazing. I mean this with all sincerity. My appreciation can not be expressed in words.
    I'm going to take a few days off before I do the reinstall. I need a break! My brain cells are starting to melt. I'll let you know how things went around Thursday. A million thanks.
     
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    Thank you. We do try.

    Reads like an EXCELLENT idea after all you have been through these last few days.

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    Couple more thoughts before you reinstall. I'd recommend three utilities for you.

    First, Download and install RegCleaner. Run it and remove any remaining entries related to Diskeeper. Be careful - only use this tool to remove registry entries if you are 100% certain you have un-installed or removed specific software from your system. RegCleaner

    Second, download and install Everest. Run a Summary report and print it out or save it. This will give you both hardware and driver information which may come in handy after your reinstall. Everest

    Third, download and install the re-incarnation of Win Drivers Backup - This will permit you to save copies of all existing drivers in a seperate folder and that may become invaluable after your reinstall. Driver Guide Toolkit

    ;)
     
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    Rockster2U

    Has some very good suggestions.

    It does help very much to get rid of all the leftover stuff first.

    BillyBob
     
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    Rockster2U - Already have RegCleaner. Everest worked like a charm. Very helpful tool. Now for the problem. WinDrivers Backup does not work. It did however install correctly. In the installation file folder it created an error log. This is what is says which is totally Greek to me:

    VER=1.1.0
    3/8/2005 9:30:41 AM
    Module: cCDOMUtility
    Routine: GetXMLHeader
    Err.Number: -2147467259
    Err.Description: This name may not contain the '#' character:

    JACK-->#<--39;SCOMPUTER


    Err.LastDllError: 0
    sExtendedMess$:

    VER=1.1.0
    3/8/2005 9:30:41 AM
    Module: frmMain
    Routine: cmdBackupDrivers_Click=1
    Err.Number: 9
    Err.Description: Subscript out of range
    Err.LastDllError: 0
    sExtendedMess$:

    BillyBob - I can assure you my friend there will be NO left over stuff. This is something I'm not going to quickly jump into. My prep work might take an hour before I start the reinstall.
     
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    Not a clue on your error messages - I still run the old version of WinDrivers Backup and got that link when I went to the old site, apparantly its been spun off to another company - thats why I labeled it a reincarnation.

    ;)
     
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    How do I get an old copy of WinDrivers Backup? The idea of a driver backup file is terrific.
     
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    I have a feeling that this is refers to the computers identification/name (see Network in Control Panel or look for "name" or "identification" in the Help menu). The name may contain a space or something (is it Jack's Computer? :) ). If you are not on a network, you can change it without problems (maybe to Jack1??).

    Matt
     
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    Windriversbackup (good idea Rockster!), do a Google search for "windriversbackup download ", looks like the old version is still available.

    Matt
     
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    For the case at hand, I disagree.

    They may not be sutiable for the new install. ( which a re-install pretty much is as far as the OS itself goes.

    If you want to back then up for testing to see which one is better than I see no problem. But to use them after a new install, NOPE !!

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    This response is for mattman. I will respond the the others later. You are correct. In Control Panel / Network under the Identification Tab the computer name is Jack's Computer. After looking at the error message again I believe it refers to the apostrophe (special character) in the name "Jack's ". This presents two questions:

    1. Can I retype a new name there without any special characters?
    2. I'm sure the name Jack's appears in other locations in my system. What then?

    It might be a better idea to do this during or after the reinstall tomorrow.
     
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    I would try my best to do it BEFORE.

    BillyBob
     
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    OK, but this does not answer my two questions in my previous post.

    I went into regedit and the name "Jack's" appeared seven times. I need the safest way to change this name. I also do not want to ***** up my Network.
     
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    Experiment. You're possibly going to reinstall anyway. And be sure to let us know (for the benefit of all) how it goes!
     
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