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24 hour connection??? and box to connect to dial up

Discussion in 'Networking (Hardware & Software)' started by tom34228, 2005/02/20.

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  1. 2005/02/20
    tom34228

    tom34228 Inactive Thread Starter

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    Two questions please

    First-two days ago I had the cable company install a router and hub on two desktops. Installer was quik and left when all seemed well, was connected to the internet on both systems. Should mention no printed manual or instructions were left and scant verbal. My knowledge of wireless is zilch.

    Things were fine the first day, last use of the day closed IE and OE. The next day could not get any kind of connection at all til I rebooted. Then all was well.
    That was true on both systems.

    What is causing this and what must I do to stop it, I have not been in the habit of shutting down the computer at the end of the day.

    The Dial up box is popping up on the second computer only because it was Dial up til this networked connection was installed-course that was the main reason for the network. On this system anytime a connection is attempted, IE or OE or an auto update by the A/V or ?? the dial up appears.

    How do I get rid of that box and any problem it may be causing?

    Thanks for any assistance
     
  2. 2005/02/20
    Zcorpio

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    Hello Tom.
    About dialling box:
    Start IE, click Tools from the menu at top, choose "Internet options ", choose tab "Connections ", put a mark in "Never dial... ", click OK, OK, and THAT issue should be solved. :)
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  4. 2005/02/20
    TonyT

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    You mention router and 2 hubs, and also mention wireless. Did you mean to say that the cable tech installed a wireles router and a wireless network card in each computer?
     
  5. 2005/02/21
    tom34228

    tom34228 Inactive Thread Starter

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    Thanks to both ZCORPIO and TONYT

    Will do the check of the "never dial" in Internet Connections

    And I hope a better describe of the other question.

    Two desktops, one was the "master" and has been connected to Roadrunner cable for quite a while. The second in another part of the house was connecting thru Dial-up Earthlink.

    The installer put a router on the "master "s modem and a USB receiver on the second.

    When he left, he left both connected to the internet and I had web access and access to OE e-mail.

    The "slave" with the usb receiver can be used all day, but when the next day arrives, no connection is made. The result is messages that indicate working offline and connection attempts of A/v and other software that usually connect fine, then result in no connection. As well of course, trying to use OE e-mail gets the message that server won't connect. This it seems is only on the "slave "

    Shutting down that system and rebooting allows the connection again and it is good thru the day-next day, no connection til reboot.

    Appreciate your replies and will try again to explain this situation if still did not get it asked correctly.
     
  6. 2005/02/21
    TonyT

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    OK, to clarify:

    It's a network using a router and usb.
    How is "master comp" connected to the router? Is it a usb cable, cat5 cable or is it wireless.
    How is "slave comp" connected to router? Is it wireless usb or a usb cable (wire).
     
  7. 2005/02/21
    tom34228

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    The "master" must be a cat5 cable connecting router to the modem/connected by cable to computer. It is not USB or wireless. I don't know what a cat5 cable but this cable is similar in appearance to that bringing cable TV in.

    The "slave" is a wireless usb.
     
  8. 2005/02/21
    TonyT

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    Understood.
    Coaxial cable (same as for tv) connects to modem, modem uses cat5 cable to connect to wireless router port, router connects to main pc using cat 5 cable and wireless usb connection to other computer.

    It seems as though the wireless connection is not set up efficiently, however, in the AM, for the time being, you can double click the wireless network icon next to the clock at bottom of screen initiate a connection to the wireless network.
     
  9. 2005/02/22
    maggie

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    It sounds like it is your dialup modem getting in the way. Tell it to never dial in Internet Options.
    Check the network folder and make sure it is disconnected. If it is showing there and keeps giving you that message, delete the connection, you won't be needing it unless you want to start using dialup again.
     
  10. 2005/02/23
    tom34228

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    Good Morning Tonyt and Maggie

    TONYT-An apology for these delayed responses to your replies-out of town kin visiting and not getting to the keyboard. Thanks for the cable lesson-this first step into Wireless really finds me stoopid. As for the wireless indicator next to the clock-there is that on the "slave" but does not appear on the "master ". Have not had a chance to try the double clik as that computer has been off til the related has departed.

    But this new world, on at least these two systems has me baffled. Just discovered that overnight (on the Master) OE which was not closed is fine-connection maintained. But the IE was closed last night and this morning will not connect til the system was rebooted. And not having the indicator to doubleclik, I looked in several places in Control Panel to find an avenue to connect and did not.

    Apparently if neither is closed at any time the connection is maintained, but if either if closed it will not re-connect the following day til re-booted. As a wimp I don't like to leave the connections open all the time

    MAGGIE-have told it never to dial an Internet Connection using IE Tools. It is no longer presenting the pop-up to Dial. In trying to chase this down, had checked the Network Folder and don't see any thing about a dial up connection.

    thank you both for your time and effort, much appreciated
     
  11. 2005/02/23
    TonyT

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    1. with a router and cable, you are always connected, no worries though cause the router's job is to:
    a. assign internal addresses to each connected computer.
    b. maintain a constant connection to the internet via the cable modem.
    c. stop all incoming connections unless requested by an internal computer, such as browser or email client like IE & OE.

    2. the "master" should not have the need to reboot IF it is connected to the router via a wire.

    3. to get a connection icon for the "master" next to the clock, right click Network Places icon on desktop, tghen click Properties. Then right click Local Area Network in Properties window and put a check next to the 2 options at bottom of Local Area Network Properties window.

    4. What is the brand and model number of your router? (we can locate the manufactuer's user manual easily)
     
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  12. 2005/02/23
    tom34228

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    Thanks Tony-got the connection indicator now tho their is not Network Place Icon on the desktop, nothing of any kind on the desktop about network. You pointed me to the right place to find the indicator.

    Appreciate the offer to find the manual. Not something you should need to do, went to the Netgear site and found a manual which downloads to Acrobat. Also found the install CD and there is apparently a manual included on the CD, does not seem to be on the computer. I have a lot to read and try to learn about this stuff.

    The "master" is connected by wire, and I guess that is the mystery-still needs to be rebooted when closed. But the next time I will try to re-connect double clikking the indicator.

    Thanks again TonyT
     
  13. 2005/02/23
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    This could be a LAN adressing issue. It is possible that with the dial up option on both computers that the computer is getting confused. /OR it is also possible you have some kind of other wireless connection interfering with your session that is established beween the router and the wireless box.

    You may consider deleting the dial up connection completley, if you don't use it.

    Giving both of your pc's a static address may help.

    What kind of security is set up on your wireless network? Are you using a shared key?

    Finally, is Windows facilitating your wireless connection or is the software that was supplied by the manufacturer? Sometimes XP and the software that came with the NIC don't play well.

    _t
     
  14. 2005/02/24
    tom34228

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    Thank you tab01234 - the "master" has been cable/broadband and the "slave" was dial-up. With the help of all you nice folks, this situation has led me to dig into areas of wireless unknown to me. Among those, learning that such things as cordless telephones and microwaves can cause connection problems.

    So that is possible-but the one thing about this that still puzzles me, it seems to be overnight that the connection drops and then reboot was necessary.

    After TonyT advised the cliking of the indicator could cause re-connection and helped me get that indicator-that does get the connection back. Also found that when I would attempt to connect to IE and the familiar page came back saying try another link and so on-including "let windows try to complete the connection settings ", that works also.

    Your response brings up some new things for me to check out. static address for both PC's??? got to dig for that somewhere-don't know what the static address is for one PC so have to start there before I can determine if it is on the other. What kind of security for the Wireless Network and shared key? thought the security was the firewalls in the router-plus the usual array of security programs alread on both PC's-shared key, don't know what that is-research ahead. Finally as to whether Windows is facilitating the wireless connection or the mfg software-NETGEAR software apparently from the install CD.

    Very much appreciate your time and effort-thank you

    And I think it is time I get out of the way here and let you very kind folks help others. All of you have been most helpful and it is apparent there is a steep learning curve in my future. May well just leave this status quo and rely on re-connecting when the connect is broken, rather than "break" it worse, til I get more familiar with wireless and routers and connections.

    Thank you all for the great help-have a great day
     
  15. 2005/02/24
    TonyT

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    This *may* be part of the must reconnect daily issue.
    Access the router control panel by opening your browser and typing this into the address bar:
    192.168.1.1 or
    192.168.0.1
    login and look for a setting for "lease time ". It may be that the lease is only for 24 hrs and your computers are not accepting a new ip address or a refreshed ip address from the router.
    And if your computers are using XP SP2's firewall, then the firewall may have to be set to receive refresh from the router.
     
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