amd64 bit processor

am thinking about building a system with the amd 64 in it. have very little experience with amd other than repairing machine with the athlon inside.

from what i see there are 2 types of sockets for the 64bit - 754 and 939. so first question is which one should i use ???

is this a good way to go or better to stick with high end athlon and not go 64bit ???

any opinions would be helpful.

thanks.

 

I have yet to do a 64bit Athlon but have been giving it serious consideration for quite some time. 939 is the newer socket and most of the newer 64's with the exception of the 53 have a 512K cache. Personally, my thinking has been to focus on a 1MB cache which means looking at a 754 because there's no way I'm going to pay $700+ for a 1MB 939 CPU. I'm still in a wait-see posture but my curiousity make take soon take control over rational thinking.

Now - as to practical matters - my all time favorite Athlon is currently the 2600+ mobile. Its rated to run on a 266MHZ bus, but with a decent MoBo and good memory, this chip runs on a 400MHZ bus with ease. I'm running a couple of these now at 12x200 which is better than a 3200+ (11x200) and because the chip was designed to run with a lower core voltage than normal K7's, it runs very cool. I can run stable at (12.5x210) but have backed both systems down to 12x200). DFI dual channel MoBo's, one with Corsair XMS and one with OCZ. These benchmark almost on par with Athlon 64's and better than most any P4 until you come up against RDRAM Rambus memory systems. Have also had very good results with this CPU on Abit boards running at 12x200 easy and have built a few of these for clients using standard Samsung PC3200 modules in dual channel configuration.

Keep me posted on what you do as I'll be following with interest - going to do one soon but haven't crossed the threshold yet.

 

thanks all will try and get this project going before year end so i can write the expense off. will let you know how it goes.

am thinking about using this board "Asus A8V Deluxe VIA Socket 939 ATX Motherboard ". what ya think ???

 

below this link was the main reason why i was going for that particular board. its one of tigers barebone systems.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1133509&Tab=2&NoMapp=0

you mentioned having more sata connectors the one mentioned here has 2 i believe so am not sure why more than 2 would be needed.

i am surprised that via hasnt returned your emails theyve been around a long time. i to use ghost but have the new version 9 that lets you do everything within windows and it seems to work fine. used to use the dos versions of ghost but got away from it for a long time so forgot how. getting old i guess.

have built a barebones using tiger before and it came out pretty decent. in fact its my main machine now. its an intel 3.2ghz with 800fsb, 256mb ati 9600xt graphics, 200g w.d. hard drive, 8x dvd +/- burner, 512mb micron memory module going to go up to 1g shortly, 460w enermax psu.

one problem i do have with it every few days and that is that it just reboots itself. sometimes it happens first in the morning when i turn it on sometimes when on the web no consistancy and no reason why. have run diags on it and all past fine. boots right back up with no errors on anything of a problem. cant figure it out though but because of it doing this wont be able to sell it so will keep it for myself.

 

Christer

Am always amazed at where some of the people who look at this forum are from. Me Swed also half of me anyway. Have relatives in I believe stockhom. Distant cousins on my moms side. Very rich from what I've been told. Unlike me a working guy.

Cant you get these systems over there ??? Or are we unable to ship technology oversees ???

Sorta thought the system looked good and with a few more bucks can be a really nice system for me or some gamer.

Hope you had a good xmas and thanks....Greg

 

yea, on asus web site says this board a new but so far the reviews I've seen are pretty good.

Just myself for xmas this year. Glad its over. Have a good new year. Now thats a holiday i like.

 

Hello All,

I noticed you are all talking about the Asus A8N Delux mobo and I just purchased one and bought a 939 Athlon 64 4000+ to drop in it along with OCZ Enhanced latency Series Platinum PC3200 DDR 400 ram (1 gig to start with) I think they will all compliment each other nicely.

Yes I dropped a bunch on the cpu and as Rockster said.. theres no way im going to pay 700+ dollars on a 1 mb 939 cpu, but I decided what the heck... my christmas present to me had all my stuff shipped overnight will drop a line and let you know how it all goes together if your interested..... hope you all had a great X mas

 

i would also be interested in how it goes together. like christer said are you using this machine in a network ??? doesnt seem like one for even a gamer because of the dual lan and raid.

am going to buy the one i posted the link on. should make a gamer a very happy gamer with 1g of ram, a 256mb graphics card and 160g h.d. and a 16x double layer lite-on burner.

 

Hi

I think I miss spoke but I only found the delux the other board I had thought of going with was the one listed below

ASUS "A8V Deluxe" VIA K8T800 Pro Chipset Motherboard For AMD Socket 939 CPU -RETAIL
**This item is warranted through the product manufacturer only. what's this?


- Specifications -

Supported CPU: AMD Athlon 64/Athlon 64 FX
Chipset: K8T800Pro + VT8237
RAM: 4x DIMM Dual Channel DDR400/333/266 Max 4GB
Slots: 1x AGP 8X, 5x PCI
Ports: 2x PS/2,1x COM,1x LPT,8x USB2.0(Rear 4),1x IEEE1394,1x RJ45,2x S/PDIF out,Audio Ports
IDE: 2x ATA 133 up to 4 Devices, 1x ATA 133 up to 2 Devices by Promise 20378 with RAID 0/1/0+1
SATA: 2x Serial ATA with RAID 0/1, 2x Serial ATA by Promise 20378 with RAID 0/1/0+1
Onboard Audio: Realtek ALC850 8-CH
Onboard LAN: Marvell 88E8001 GbE
Onboard IEEE1394: 2x 1394 ports
Form Factor: ATX

I do have a small buisness and have 4 other machines that would network but now tat you have brought it up, I have used them all as stand alones. This machine will be used for many things as well as my buisness but not being to hardware savy I could use some recommendations. After reading your post posing that question to me I went back and looked over my shopping list. I still want the 4000+ although it seems that I need to do some more reading on SATA and Raid as I am not familiar with them

Was just planing on going with plain ol IDE. Advice???? Thanks guys for pointing that out.

 

even though the asus a8v deluxe has sata capability i also am sticking to ide right now. reason is because i have a couple western digital drives 160g that i want to get out of inventory otherwise i would go to sata. sata is just the new technology in hard drives. raid if i remember stands for reduntant array of inexpensive drives. something like that normally used i believe for disaster recovery situations.

 

gghartman,

Yes,

I also have 2 brand new WD HDD , a 80 gig and a 120 gig I want to use and both are 7200 rpm.. so there nice and will be put to good use. Allthough I am still stuck with what board to use... I guess I could go either way but feel the delux is not needed at this time.

 

so what boards did you get ??? the one im getting is the asus a8v deluxe.

 

thats what i remember from my microsoft cert classes. have never use or done it but it was on the tests.