Netscape 7.1 Toolbar & MenuBar Questions, & v7.1 vs 7.2 question.

O.K., right, Netscape 7.2 is on your PC. Since you are going to keep the 7 Profiles, and use all 7 with Netscape 7.2, then you can try running them as is, and see if you have problems. Right now it's hard to tell. Just leave things as they are and see what develops. If nothing does, then you have finished the transition to 7.2. However, if you do encounter problems, then if it were me, I would do a clean install of 7.2, and create 7 new Profiles, with 7 unique names. I just hate to see you have to create 7 new Profiles and start from scratch.

I went ahead and answered all the questions so I wouldn't get in trouble!

I only suggested one Profile to save you some work. But it's fine if you would rather have 7 Profiles.

I have no way of knowing, as each prefs.js file is unique. If you have an older backup that you made before you added scripts to your prefs.js file, then you might be able to compare that file with a current prefs.js file.

Copy only the files listed. The reason I posted the "Do not copy" list was so no one would become over zealous. The jar files are the extensions, and you can try copying them, but you will most likely need to reinstall your extensions. The *.na2 files are Communicator files which were converted when you first installed Netscape 6 or 7.

There should be only one Password file (*.s) and only one Form Fill file (*.w). Open the files in WordPad in order to determine which file that your Profile is using, and remove the leftovers.

If you do that, then the Profile Manager will open the OLD profile. I would go for a unique Profile name.

Well then, you can probably help me with ZoneAlarm. I wish I could be more helpful to you there, but I'm not really sure what the problem is with your ZA Pro.

Ramona

 

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"O.K., right, Netscape 7.2 is on your PC. Since you are going to keep the 7 Profiles, and use all 7 with Netscape 7.2, then you can try running them as is, and see if you have problems ".
Wow! Let's hope. Thanks.

"I went ahead and answered all the questions so I wouldn't get in trouble! "
You're great! What I usually do is quote or copy an entire Forum reply, then break it up into separate quotes so I don't have to rely on my faulty memory to address everything.

"The *.na2 files are Communicator files which were converted when you first installed Netscape 6 or 7 ".
Interesting, thank you. The 'original' Netscape backup installed to this PC was a proprietary @Home (now defunct) version of 4.61; when I installed 7.1 it kept the @Home 'junk' coded into the NS Menu under Help. With 7.2, those dead links disappeared. I wonder if it's 1 of those 3 *.na2 files? I wonder if any of those 3 *.na2 files from my last post are still needed? Do you happen to recognize/know the functions of the 3 file names?

"There should be only one Password file (*.s) and only one Form Fill file (*.w). Open the files in WordPad in order to determine which file that your Profile is using, and remove the leftovers ".
I hope that's not then a 'sign' of possible corruption you previously wrote about.
As I understand it (?) the .w are for forms completions. I don't use that as I've seen security forums advise against the feature. The .w files were all 0KB. They were blank in Wordpad & I deleted them.
The only Autofill I do use is a Bookmarklet that fills the text box in every form on page with "anonymous ". Fills email boxes "anonymous@example.com" ( reserved nonexistent domain; sometimes fails to detect an email box). The JavaScript for this is placed in a Bookmark URL. If anyone needs it, I'd be glad to post it.
More interesting is what I found in the additional .s (password manager) files when I opened them in Wordpad. The additional ones were shorter versions (less entries) then the ones in use in each Profile. So it seems that each time I've added an entry/site to the NS Password Manager, it created & used a new correct .s file, but kept the old ones. When I have time/energy, I need to experiment by adding a new site & seeing if this happens again. I deleted all the shorter old .s files for now.

"If you do that, then the Profile Manager will open the OLD profile. I would go for a unique Profile name ".
That seems to logically confuse me. If I do this (in the future if there is corruption), how would it open the "OLD" profile?
1) Create 7 new Profiles.
2) Copy the files you list as okay to copy from the 7 OLD Profiles.
3) At this point, I'd think I can delete the 7 OLD Profiles.
4) Reboot.
5) Rename the 7 new Profiles in Windows Explorer to the 7 OLD Profile names.
Or even better:
1) Rename the 7 OLD Profiles.
2) Reboot.
3) Create 7 new Profiles using the original 7 OLD Profile names.
4) Copy the files you list as okay to copy from the 7 OLD renamed Profiles.
5) Delete the Old Profiles.
OK, I'll 'save' you typing , if you prefer, just say it wouldn't work (or feel free to type/explain why not).

"Well then, you can probably help me with ZoneAlarm ".
No FW is foolproof. ZA is weak compared to ZAP. I'm using ZAP 5.1, but there are bugs that create problems if you don't also have other security SW to fill the gaps. I advise you to not use ZA. You can install EZArmor 2005 for 1 year free through a MS/CA promotion. It includes EZAV & EZFW; the EZFW is the same program as ZAP v4.5 that is safe & secure & bug free (except EZFW will cause major problems ONLY IF a User has an AMD 64 & SP2; for that you have to wait till CA releases the next version). The Custom install allows you to select the FW or the AV or both. I advise both. There are many reasons why EZAV is the best AV available (other than the more expensive Australian VET edition I use). EZAV & VET are exactly the same except: the Developers are at VET in Australia & the first file updates are released on the VET site often hours (sometimes more) before the EZAV servers; VET servers haven't had capacity problems that EZAV servers sometimes have; VET uses http for updates, while EZAV uses an FTP that creates conflicts for some people depending upon their LSP stack & their FW; VET adds networking to the program: an Administrator or any email address can be notified if certain events occur.
If you need the URL just ask. I also have a URL for a download that only includes EZAV for 1 year free. While these are not 'secret' URLs, people find it hard to locate them (& many buy the programs when the promo is free/legal direct from the vendor/CA).

As always Ramona, Thank You for the continuing Help & discussion.

 

pab.na2 is the Communicator Address Book
netcenter.na2 is the webmail Address Book
verisign.na2 is for Digital Certificates
None of these three are needed.

That's a possibility, and Netscape 7.2 added its own files to the existing Profile.

Yes, I would do that as soon as possible, to avoid problems down the line.

I failed to add: unless you also rename the Profile in the ~\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles folder.

Don't delete the old Profiles for a day or two, until you see that all is working as it should.

If you intend to rename the NEW Profiles, then it must be done in the Profile Manager first. Then rename in Windows Explorer.

I think the second process would be the best bet, i.e., first rename the 7 OLD Profiles. This can be done in Windows Explorer, and doesn't have to be done in the Profile Manager. Then set up the 7 new Profiles.... Hopefully it won't be necessary, but only time will tell.

Ramona

 

Thanks Ramona!

Thank you kindly Ramona for all the patient Help. I believe we're done on this now.

I'm not creating 7 new profiles as all seems to be working okay. If a problem should occur in the future, I'll reference back to this thread & your site.

I'm just left with the annoyance of those 4 dll files seemingly changing each time & triggering the Changed Component & Server Request in ZAP on NS. My next step is adding the .old suffix when I have a moment later & seeing if I cure the annoyance & don't lose any functionality. I'm waiting only because I'm due for a full new backup anyway, & there are some other things I want to do first.

As a final comment, I've always 'loved' Netscape & hopefully always will. I 'love' it even more now that there's the PrefBar plus that I've found all the great Bookmarklets. I'm very thankful to those who spent their time & efforts on creating them.

Again, thank you very very much.

 

Marklet,

You are most welcome, and here's hoping that all goes well.

Ramona