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Discussion in 'PC Hardware' started by shadowhawk, 2004/10/06.

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    shadowhawk

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    I'm looking to buy this ATI Radeon in a couple weeks. The site says it's a VIVO card, but I don't see an RCA hookup for a TV or VCR. I realize RCA hookups are bit old-school, but are they so out of date that new video cards don't bother with them?
     
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    S-Video (the round - black port)

    "Short for Super-Video, a technology for transmitting video signals over a cable by dividing the video information into two separate signals: one for color (chrominance), and the other for brightness (luminance). When sent to a television, this produces sharper images than composite video , where the video information is transmitted as a single signal over one wire. This is because televisions are designed to display separate Luminance (Y) and Chrominance (C) signals. (The terms Y/C video and S-Video are the same.)
    Computer monitors, on the other hand, are designed for RGB signals. Most digital video devices, such as digital cameras and game machines, produce video in RGB format. The images look best, therefore, when output on a computer monitor. When output on a television, however, they look better in S-Video format than in composite format.

    To use S-Video, the device sending the signals must support S-Video output and the device receiving the signals must have an S-Video input jack. Then you need a special S-Video cable to connect the two devices. "
     
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    My VCR doesn't support S-Video, just the regular yellow RCA hookups. Will I be SOL with that if I get this vid card?
     
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    Looks like I'm SOL. I don't see any RCA connectors on the new cards. Guess they think we all have HDTVs now.
     
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    I'm going to check but, I don't think that is a VIVO card. No mention that I seen.
    My ~old~ Radeon 64 meg VIVO DOES has a regular RCA input (machine #2 in the house).
    The Svideo you see in the picture is the TV-out, not an input.

    Keep looking.

    You may want the ATI all-in-wonder card. It adds the ability to watch TV on your puter as well.

    Does ATI still sell VIVO cards that are not AIW's??

    Dale
     
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    I'm now sure that is not a VIVO card. Don't think they even sell them anymore.
    You must have a composite (RCA) input.

    So keep looking and you will probably end up with an AIW (All-In-Wonder) card.

    Download this.......
    http://www.atitech.com/support/manualpdf/AW9600XT.pdf

    Notice the RCA video input.

    Dale
     
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    Ah, I wasn't aware they weren't making VIVO cards anymore. Doesn't matter. I hardly ever did vid capture anyway. I'm getting this card to up my prowess in UT 2K4 for the most part. Those AIW cards are $$$.

    edit: Here's the heartbreaker. I just looked at a picture of the AIW 9800 and it doesn't have a yellow composite hookup either. Guess I'm a day late a dollar short for that. :(
     
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    I have an Asus Ati Radeon 9600XT card . This is just Asus's version of the ATI card. It is a VIVO card. It comes with an adapter cable that you plug into the S-Video jack and then plug your RCA cables into it. It works great. I don't know if ATI supplies the adapter cable with their cards or not. It may well be that they don't. If you click on the small pictures of the card on the page my link leads to, you'll see what's all included (including the adapter cable). If you take a look at the pictures on for the ATI card they don't show the cable so I would guess that it's not supplied. I could be wrong, but it's been my experience that when you by something at Newegg, you get whatever the pictures show. Both of these are retail versions, not OEM.
     
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    Is an Asus Radeon as good as an ATI Radeon? Are all the pipes unlocked? Is the card stable?
     
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    The Asus card is an ATI Radeon. Nothing's locked on the card (on mine anyway). As to how they differ, I don't really know. I would Imagine Asus tweaks the drivers in their own way, puts their own fan and heatsink on them, those types of things. If you don't like the Asus drivers you can always use ATI's. With the hardware I have in my computer, the card is as stable as they come, however other than for a very short time, I haven't overclocked it so I can't really say for sure that it's stable if you're into that type of thing. Things could change of course with different hardware combinations but the same can be said for most any video card. I can't say whether either card is faster than the other. I'm not into the benchmark thing so I haven't really checked into it. I would imagine if you did a search on Google you'd find plenty of benchmark info available.

    The Asus card is a bit more expensive than the ATI card but it would appear that, for that, you get a few more goodies with it also.
     
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    shadowhawk

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    I'm thinking maybe the Asus Radeon 9600 XT or the ATI AIW Radeon 9600 XT. But would the AIW be overkill on my three-year-old machine with the 1.4 GHz Tbird?
     
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    Not overkill at all as long as your motherboard supports 4x AGP.
    This card only supports 8x or 4x AGP settings.

    Plus, if you upgrade your motherboard, processor and RAM in the future, then you will already have a nice video card to put into the new beast!!

    Dale
     
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    shadowhawk

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    It supports 4x. I won't be building a new machine til around 07. I plan on using a totally PCI-Express board. This is just to kinda tide me over til then. 64 MB just doesn't cut it anymore.
     
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