Problem with AMD Athlon 1333

hey, i just got an athlon 1.333ghz cpu and i ran the amd cpu program that gives you all the stats, and it says it's 1.001ghz, the markings on the cpu say that it's 1333mhz, so i dunno what's wrong, could it be a mobo problem?

 

It sure sounds like the CPU is meant to run at a Front Side Bus of 133mhz.
I did follow your earlier thread a bit,
The important question, will your motherboard support the 133 FSB???

**If** so, you will have to change the FSB in the BIOS since your older Duron only ran at 100mhz FSB.

Dale

 

according to the guy who sold it to me, it's supposed to be a 266fsb, he originally had it listed as a 133, but later said he messed up and it was a 266, the markings on it are:

A1333AMS3C
AXIA0129CPEW
S/N Y6629940030

and Rocksteru2 from the other post said

"A=Athlon, 1333=1,333mhz, A=(C)PGA, M=1.75VCore, S=95o C, 3=256KB L2 Cache, C=266mhz (133x2) "

so if c means 266 and it's 2x133 might that mean i need the 133? here's the info i know about my mobo, got it from a system info program:


Front Side Bus Properties:
Bus Type DEC Alpha EV6
Bus Width 64-bit
Real Clock 100 MHz (DDR)
Effective Clock 200 MHz
Bandwidth 1600 MB/s

Memory Bus Properties:
Bus Type SDR SDRAM
Bus Width 64-bit
Real Clock 100 MHz
Effective Clock 100 MHz
Bandwidth 800 MB/s

Chipset Bus Properties:
Bus Type PCI
Bus Width 32-bit
Real Clock 33 MHz
Effective Clock 33 MHz
Bandwidth 133 MB/s



and here's the cpu info:


CPU Properties:
CPU Type AMD Athlon-PECM, 1000 MHz (5 x 200)
CPU Alias Thunderbird
CPU Stepping A4/A5/A6/A7
L1 Code Cache 64 KB
L1 Data Cache 64 KB
L2 Cache 256 KB (On-Die, Full-Speed)

CPU Physical Info:
Package Type 453 Pin PGA / 242 Contact Slot A Cartridge
Package Size 4.95 cm x 4.95 cm / 13.99 cm x 6.27 cm x 1.64 cm
Transistors 37 million
Process Technology 6Mi, 0.18 um, CMOS
Die Size 120 mm2
Core Voltage 1.75 V
I/O Voltage 1.6 V
Typical Power 34 - 65 W (depending on clock speed)
Maximum Power 38 - 72 W (depending on clock speed)


as you can see every program says it's 1000mhz, but the markings on the chip itself say it's 1333

 

it says the mobo name is Compaq Presario 5102CA 470013-869 i know the brand name right on the mobo is uwave2, i looked around the compaq site, but all i could find is the pc specs nothing specific, here's the url if you wanna take a look:

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocument?lc=en&cc=us&docname=c00009362&dlc=en&lang=en#

is there any programs or anything that could tell me if my mobo supports 133?

 

In the BIOS is a CPU setting. Highlight the 100s (using the down arrow) then change the properties with your plus key. My old 1.66 insisted it was a 1.0 everytime the BIOS reverted to default, and changing it to 133 somehow made it know it was a 1.66. Don't ask me how- I'm an eXPert, not a hardware tech! If you do it right, Control Panel> System will reflect what you have changed it to.

Johanna

 

alright, this is my first run with the whole mobo bios thing, so what tools and stuff do i need to open and edit the mobo bios?

 

bios

Fuzzy. ya don't use hardware tools to edit the bios. On bootup while it is posting (black screen w/white letters) tap the delete key, or maybe your box uses the f2 key, one second apart until you get the bios menu. This will be a blue screen/white letters most of the time. You can navigate around in this window using the up/down arrows on keyboard. There are instructions at the bottom of the screen explaining the actions. Be careful tho as one mistake saved (f10 key) can stop a bootup. Now follow Johanna post

 

ya, i've been trying to find the right key to hit, compaq website said hit f10, but that's just sys info, i've been trying all the f keys and none take me to the bios screen, i'll try the delete and a few other keys to see if i can find the right one

 

Fuzzy C
If ya can't FIND the BIOS, best to leave it alone!

The following is from a respected source:

So, stay out of the BIOS, it's a moot point.

Johanna

 

found out the reason i can't get to the bios screen is because i deleted some compaq files when i first got my pc, my life would be a million times better if i never heard the name compaq. so what your saying is, i'm boned? cause compaq customer support said that my pc should have no problem running this chip when i e-mailed them to see what the max cpu size i could put in it was, they told me i could run up to a 1.4ghz athlon without a problem, guess they're stupider then i thought, ***** that i'm stuck with a 1333 cpu that only goes to 1000, when i could've overclocked my original duron to 1000 safely for free

 

You probably still can get into the BIOS. You need to download the PROPER diagnostic program. From this, you build "Maybe" three floppies. You use these to boot the machine off of.

Make sure you download the proper ones!!!!

You will be able to get to the BIOS from the floppies you create.


Dale

 

ya, i made those, but the site i got them from linked to the french file, so i couldn't understand a single thing lol i got a compaq presario 5102ca, i've been looking for the english version but haven't found anything, the file is named just a bunch of numbers and letters so it's hard to find the file

 

Maybe some info:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...&lang=en&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&docname=c00007683
might be the closest thing to motherboard manual

http://www.igs.net/~ndaines/Qfiles/uwave2.html
"This motherboard is an OEM version of the FIC AZ31."

AZ31 manual, but do not expect very much to relate to your OEM board, apart from identifying the various components.
http://www.fic.com.tw/support/motherboard/document.aspx?model_id=49

Matt

 

Keep looking......You **will** find it on their site......Eventually

Dale

 

The motherboard does not support your chip. Being an OEM Mobo (Compaq) limits what options you have. You will have to make do with the 100 setting, and you will not be able to utilize the 133. You are not losing any significant performance value anyway, considering you have a Compaq in the first place.

This is not Compaq's fault... In all honesty, if you are not familiar with the BIOS, you should probably have a tech look at it. (He/she will then charge you money to tell you that your mobo doesn't support the slightly larger chip. )

I haven't read the other thread, but I'm sure that if I'm wrong, Rockster2U will correct me. Last I heard, he was busy with Ivan, so give him some time to respond. In the meantime, forget it, and just use your computer! It's working fine, now, right?

Johanna

 

F10 should get you there. If you go to your other thread and look at my first post, I think you'll find my comments about your system bus and potential problems forewarned you. I tried to find MoBo specs on your machine and couldn't even get a downloaded manual from the HP (Compaq) website. I did find they will sell you a replacement Mobo for $288 - hehehe......... Looks like you bought a bill of goods from Compaq as one can buy a lot of 10 considerably better MoBo's for $288.

So what do you do now? Once you access the BIOS, see if you can change the multiplier to 13 or 13.5 and see if you can boot. That will give you a 1300 or 1350 mhz CPU speed. Your current multiplier is 10 and should be 10x133 but your FSB is 100 so you have 10x100 or 1000mhz. I'm going to assume (can't be sure without any chipset info) that your MoBo will only handle a 100mhz FSB, thus changing the multiplier is the only potential hardware option you've got except Soft FSB (potential software solution). The other problem you can expect to encounter trying to get to 1300 mhz with that CPU will be memory related. If you are able to change the multiplier, you will most likely need to slow down your memory timings (increase latency for starters) and again, I'd need to see your BIOS to find out if this is possible with this MoBo.

So, whats the bottom line? You have a better CPU than you used to have. So you can stop now and be a happy camper with a 1ghz machine. Or ........ You can go shopping again and find a 1300 or 1400mhz T-Bird that runs at 100FSB and you're home free. Any other alternatives will start to cost you some money and you'd be smarter financially to replace the whole system. I doubt that this is necessary at this point in time.

And the ultimate lesson here - You bit on the original price point of your Compaq and thought it was a good deal. It probably was. Now, don't expect much more than what you originally paid for.

You can't put a Hemi in a Ford Pinto.

 

Correction : Should Read

"When my original Duron could have been overclocked to well over 1000mhz by someone who knew what they were doing. "