Game Port needs more resources

Hopefully, I am down to the final obstacle in building my son's computer. He wants to use his Thrustmaster Nascar Charger 2 wheel and pedals for racing games. When the audio PCI with the game port is installed, the following message is shown in device manager:
"This device cannot find enough free resources that it can use. (Code 12)

If you want to use this device, you will need to disable one of the other devices on this system. "
This is what is listed under sound, video and game controllers:
Audio Codecs
CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio Device
Legacy Audio Drivers
Legacy Video Capture Devices
Media Control Devices
NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio Codec Interface
NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) MCP Audio Processing Unit (Dolby(R) Digital)
Standard Game Port {marked with a yellow circle with a ! in it}
Unimodem Half-Duplex Audio Device
Video Codecs
If I attach his controller to this game port, it prevents the SATA Raid and PCI slots from being read by the computer, so the controller and modem aren't seen and he can't go online. This controller works fine on my computer. His mobo is a DFI NFII Ultra Infinity.
I was having a problem with the SATA and PCIs not reading before on his computer, but that was due to the mobo being shorted to a standoff. A fiber washer fixed that problem, but it comes back when I attach this controller. When I remove the controller and restart the computer, all works fine.
Any suggestions?
Barry

 

Hi Barry,

I don't have a lot of of experience with with resource shuffling, but I know you were doing a lot of experimentation with your PCI cards. I would suggest that you go into Safe Mode and remove anything that you may find that was installed during the tests/trials (in Add/remove programs and Device Manager). It/they may be tying up the resources that you need.

Is the game controller USB or through a joystick port?

You may need to check all the devices listed in Device Mangler and find one you don't/won't use and disable it.

I hope the others have some suggestions for you, I would be interested myself.

Matt

 

Everything I did, I undid, so that probably isn't the problem. This is attached through a joystick port. It would be a lot easier if it was USB. The sound card I have the port on is a Creative Sound Blaster 16 PCI model SB4740. I'm not really sure what can be eliminated from the sound, video & game controllers. I believe that nVidia and Legacy are the primary drivers on the mobo for audio/video. I believe that the PCI audio device is what I have the controller plugged into, so I don't think I can uninstall that. I don't know about the codecs, media control devices or unimodem. Hopefully someone is familiar with all this. Thanks for your suggestions Matt,
Barry

 

Does the above say that you have and INTERNAL Modem ? If so this may well be nothing other than an IRQ problem that has been around for a LLOONNGGG time.

If so my money is 95% on that being the problem. This type of problem goes WAY, WAY back ( years ) to my early days on this BBS. They can, will, and have for years caused this problems

What happens is that the Modem MUST have a certain IRQ. The sound card may also try to use thet same IRQ and the MODEM WILL NOT release it.

I would bet that if the Modem were removed ( if indeed it is Internal ) the aother device would work fine.

Does your machine have an Internal or external Modem ?.

BillyBob

 

OOPS !! I Missed this.

I believe that indicates onboard ( builtin ) audio.

If so it must be disabled in the BIOS.

BillyBob

 

Reading back again I see Unimodem Half-Duplex Audio Device

!0 to 1 there is the problem.

BB

 

The modem is a Zonet ZFM5620 56Kbps V.902 Data/Fax Modem. It is installed in the #3 PCI slot, while the audio card is installed in the #5 PCI slot. Those are the only PCI slots being used. I would prefer using the onboard audio/video. I only use this audio card as I couldn't find another game port. I need a 15 pin female receptacle on the computer for the controller. What do I do to eliminate the conflict?

 

OK. Things read as I suspected they would.

Wait for other ideas. But to the best of my knowledge you will need to give up the Intenal Modem or the game card. Your call. Unless someone else has an other way around this.

As I mentioned in an earlier reply this is not a new thing. Internal modems have been causing this proplem for YEARS.

Also an EXternal Modem would be better overall any way. ( and always have been

BillyBob

 

You can easily prove ( or dis-prove ) my theory by pulling the Modem out.

My wild guess is that the Sound card etc. would work fine.

BillyBob

 

I hate to have to keep buying new hardware. I just bought the Zonet on a suggestion here. I just realized that the Sound Blaster audio card is in my computer and my son has a no-name generic. I could put in the Sound Blaster, if that would help. The controller works on my computer with the Creative Sound Blaster audio card and Creative Modem Blaster PCI modem. Should I just switch these with what he has? Any other suggestions?

 

Anything to get rid of the IRQ conflict.

I would never have an Internal Modem again anyway for just the reason of this post.

The first, last and only conflict I had was back in the EARLY days of Win95. I fixed it and put 98FE and 98SE after that an not a problem.

BillyBob

 

OK, I think I'm in over my head. I swapped the Creative modem and sound cards from my computer with my son's cards. I still end up with the same problem. It says that the resources are unavailable and I need to disable some other system device, yet this isn't an IRQ conflict. The problem appears to be with the Input/Output Range. It says I can choose from the following values:
0208-020F
0218-021F
0210-0217
Yet all say that this resource is unavailable. When I check the system, I can find no conflict. Nothing seems to be using those ranges.
I tried to disable devices that aren't being used, but that didn't change anything. Where do I go from here?

 

As for right now I believe ( understand ) that;

When the mentioned comtroller is plugged in there are problems with both the controller and the Modem. If this is indeed true then it IS DEFFINETELY a conflict in the use of COMM PORTS. And if I remember correctly you said that the modem works fine with out the controller ( sound card ) plugged in. If this is true then it is DEFFINETLY a use of COMM Port( IRQ ) problem.

Have you tried leaving the Modem out and see what happens ? But if you do then you must remove it from the Regisrty also.

Before you did this did you go into the Regisrty and make sure the old ones were removed ?

The unavailable part is true. Other wise things would work.
The no conflict showing part may also be true in this case.
Just disabling may not be enough. And Internal Modem may need to be REMOVE.

Where do I go from here ?

I suggest either COMPLETELY removing the Internal Moden and Installing an External Modem or go without the desired controller.

 

Actually, with the swapped cards, the modem has no problem. Everything works fine, except the Creative game port says that it is lacking in resources to be enabled. I did remove everything before swapping cards, and the "found new hardware" program came up and operated when I started up with the new hardware. I removed the old software and replaced it with the new software. I haven't had the time to remove the modem and run the audio card alone. I'll get to it by this weekend. I have none of the problems of the last cards, except for the lack of an operational game port.

 

Barry, I hope this works in with BillyBob's recommendations... You mention onboard Audio and Video. If you have onboard Audiio and Video and you want to use a PCI soundcard and an AGP card, you need to disable the onboard items in the BIOS settings (check the motherboard manual for how to disable them).

You may have onboard hardware enabled as well as adding "cards ".

Matt
Edit: I cannot understand why a modem and a soundcard can utilise all available resouces. Would also suggest modem in PCI #5 and soundcard in PCI #4.

 

I'll check out these options tomorrow, but what I don't understand is that these same cards work fine on my computer which also has onboard audio and video. I want to keep the onboard programs. I use the PCI card just for the game port.

 

On some systems that is true. Other systems is is false.

Most systems Syswill not work with that.

Another case of individual system and settings of same.

I have had the same thing happen to me. All is well on one machine and the other is a no-go.

I think ( from my experience ) that you would like the Plugin audio just as well as the onboard. ( if not beter ) I was running with onboard Audio on this machine until my Son convinced me to try a SB Live LS plugin card. Now I will NEVER go back to onboard audio.

BTW. The SPEAKERS have just as much ( if not more ) to do with the quality of the audio.

BillyBob






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From and earlier post

I do not think we can completely rule this out either.

BillyBob

 

Look in your bios setup for a setting named Plug and Play OS. If it's set to yes change it to no. If it's already set to no, try yes. Don't know if this will help or not but it can't hurt to give it a try. Sometimes it will do the trick for this type of thing.

 

I uninstalled the modem and removed it from the computer. The only PCI card remaining was the audio card with the game port. It still shows the same results. When I go into resources, it tells me that the I/O Range setting I have chosen conflictgs with another device. I tried changing the IRQ from auto to each specific IRQ and there was no change. I tried every PnP change available and nothing happened. I don't want to switch over from the onboard audio to this basic SoundBlaster PCI 16. It is not a high quality card, and the onboard is better. Do you really think it is worthwhile to knock out more plugs on the back of the computer to check out all the PCI slots? I'd rather not just make more holes without some type of logical reason. What do I do now?