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Backup of emails in Netscape 7.1

Discussion in 'Firefox, Thunderbird & SeaMonkey' started by Paulina, 2004/08/20.

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  1. 2004/08/20
    Paulina

    Paulina Inactive Thread Starter

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    Would like to backup all my emails from my Netscape 7.1 mailbox, since I'm intending to change my OS from Windows Me to Windows XP, and don't want to lose my mail and my daughter's mail. Thanks for the help
     
  2. 2004/08/20
    Westside

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    I did make the switch to XP only some three or four months ago. I copied entire profiles to a CD, along with other files. I have been using the burnt CD to copy the files or folders to WinXP. The profiles locations for different system is in: http://home.att.net/~cherokee67/ns7profloc.html
    It is best to Export the address book(s) from the Address Book|Tools|Export as .ldif file. I never had a problem with .ldif files, and importing them.
    NS7.2 was just released, and it looks quite good.
     

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  4. 2004/08/20
    Paulina

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    Just downloaded and installed Netscape 7.2. Think the procedures will be the same to save my emails, right?
     
  5. 2004/08/21
    Westside

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    Same way.
     
  6. 2004/08/21
    jmachulis23

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    Upgrading to XP

    I am currently running Windows ME and for the last several months my system has become very unsable. Gateway suggested that I run a utility to restore missing or corrupted files and while running that procedure I received a general protection fault error message and then received a DOS prompt. So now I need to reformate the hard drive and restore Windows ME before I can use the XP upgrade CD. Does any one know if I should restore Netscape 7.1 before I do the XP upgrade? Also what do I need to backup and save to restore all my Netscape preferences, settings, email, bookmarks, address books, ect. Also do I need to setup a new profile?

    John
     
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    Westside

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    I know that the Restore will restore the operating system, but I have my doubts about any other program. In other words, do you know where your Netscape stuff is? I would save the entire profile. I am not familiar with WinMe, but I went from Win98 to XP, but on another computer. If you go to XP, will it be on the same or another computer? Ramona's Netscape solutions will give you a number of options.
    Your problem and the previous one are not so related, because you seem to have a sick system. If you do not get any reply, start a new thread, referring to this one:
     
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    jmachulis23

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    Backing up Netscape 7.1

    I will be upgrading from Windows ME to Windows XP on the same computer.
     
  9. 2004/08/23
    Westside

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    I, pretty much understood that, you data will have to be backed up and save on CDs or something like that.You hard drive will have to wiped clean before you start the upgrade. I am just concerned about whatyou were saying about the health of your OS.
    Just keep in mind that unless you did not use your computer too much, this upgrade may be a waste of money. FYI, I used my old computer pretty heavily for the past two years, but the hard drive which was large enough, 18GB, but over 3 and a half years old gave up the ghost. I had another, smaller, hard drive and I was able to revive my old computer, but only by having backup everything which can be used. I still have six CDs full of data, most of which can be used in XP. Good luck.
     
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    jmachulis23

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    I have backed up all my address books and bookmarks and favorites on a floppy and saved the entire C:\Windows\Application Date folder on a CD. Is there any other location where netscape files would be stored?
     
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    The question was never answered!

    All that followed from respondents, as far as I could tell, were methods for saving an address book, not email. I'm using Netscape 7.2 on a Windows2000 partition, and the directories described to have the mail in them do not even exist on my system.

    Does 7.2 have a radically different directory structure? Have I inadvertently set it up differently? If so, I would sure like to know how to back up the actual email messages; not just the address book. I would really like to move all the emails from my ISP's POP account out of Netscape on Windows, and into Mozilla or Kmail on my Fedora Core 2 system. And I would like to do it without the ridiculous "attach all, send to self" workaround. There must be an appropriate tool. Does anyone know what/where it is?
     
  12. 2004/08/30
    Ramona

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    Welcome to the Forum, LinuxUser263882!

    LinuxUser,

    Your Profiles will be on your C: drive, even tho you have installed Netscape 7.2 on another partition. They will be located here: C:\Documents and Settings\user_name\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles

    Netscape always places the Profiles in this location, and does so for security purposes. Your Mail folders are in subdirectories of the Profiles directory here:
    C:\Documents and Settings\user_name\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\NSprofilename\xxxxxxxx.slt\Mail

    It is a good idea to make a backup of the entire Profiles folder, as you will then have all your Profile data files, Address Book, Bookmarks, etc. backed up in the event of a problem. Trust me, it will happen, and frequent backups are the key to a quick fix.

    If you wish to move the Netscape 7.2 Mail to Mozilla:
    • Close Netscape, Mozilla, and Quick Launch
    • Open Windows Explorer
    • Backup both Profiles folders (Netscape & Mozilla)
    • Open the Netscape 7.2 Mail Account Folder (pop.yourISP.net)
    • Copy all files with NO MSF extensions, place them in a temporary folder
    • Rename the files with NO MSF extensions, e.g., NSInbox, NSDrafts, NSSent, etc. By doing so, they won't overwrite the existing Mail files in Mozilla.
    • Copy the renamed files to the Mozilla Mail Account Folder
    • Also copy all SBD folders, as they contain your subfolders

    When you Open Mozilla these renamed files will be in place. You can then move the messages to the folders of your choice.

    I'm not familiar with Kmail or Fedora.

    Ramona
     
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    LinuxUser263882

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    Once again: the directories do not exist

    What you've said above is precisely what I found on Google, which is why I'm asking here. The directory you name does not exist. I even created a new profile in an attempt to generate such a directory. No result. If "C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Application Data" doesn't exist, nothing beneath it can, either. This is what's confusing me.

    Don't I know it. I regularly wipe my hard drives. I usually do them one at a time, so I can back things up on one drive and restore them into the other, without wasting a bunch of CD-R's.

    And by the way, I do not have separate Windows partitions. Everything is in C:\ when I run Windows. What I *do* have on the other partition is a Linux operating system, which I sort of need to move my mail into, since I'm nuking Windows as soon as this problem is resolved.

    Ultimately, my question is this: If Netscape/Mozilla isn't putting my mail in the conventional place (and I assure you it's putting it *somewhere*, there's plenty of it) then where could Netscape possibly be putting my mail?

    I think I'm going to try installing Mozilla 1.7 and attempting an import. Perhaps installing Mozilla will generate the Application Data directory and its subdirectories.
     
  14. 2004/08/31
    LinuxUser263882

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    Aha!

    I found my solution!

    Something nobody mentioned (or I overlooked) is the fact that by default, "Application Data" is a hidden directory. Somehow, this never occurred to me.

    When I copy/pasted the directory address into explorer, I discovered I actually went somewhere! (I had even attempted earlier to navigate to that directory using the command-line, since I didn't see it in Explorer, but even that refused to show me that "Application Data" even existed) So I went into Folder Settings and chose the "show hidden" option. And there it was. The path to my profile info.

    The thing that still irks me is that it was hidden to begin with, with a folder name that gave no hint that it might be. Being used to UNIX/Linux, I expect hidden directories to begin with a period, or to have some other consitency with one another so that you know that they're intended to be hidden. In Windows it's completely arbitrary. Something might be hidden or it might not; it all depends on properties within that you can't see. I've used Windows for at least ten years now, yet it still finds ways to confound me. I picked up Linux about four years ago and I already know my way around it well enough to be helping other people with it. Its consistent structure was a big help. Once you learn the pattern, you can find almost anything.

    If anyone happens to be curious about Linux, you can grab a copy of KNOPPIX (a Linux that boots from a CD; never touches your hard drive) from linuxiso.org

    Anyhow, thanks for helping me out everyone (and Ramona), despite my inability to look for the obvious answer first! Have a good one!
     
  15. 2004/08/31
    Ramona

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    LinuxUser263882,

    As you indicate that you are an experienced user, it never occurred to me that you didn't know that those files were hidden. The link for Profiles Location that Westside gave earlier in the thread shows that they are hidden:
    http://home.att.net/~cherokee67/ns7profloc.html

    Windows 2000/Windows XP
    Mozilla & Netscape
    C:\Documents and Settings\user_name\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles

    NOTE: These files are hidden by default.
    To see hidden files:
    1. On the Tools menu in Windows Explorer, click Folder Options
    2. Click the View tab
    3. Under Hidden files and folders, click Show hidden files and folders

    At any rate, you now know where to look for your Profiles folder in W2K/XP.

    Ramona
     
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