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Theme - File Association - Icon Problems

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  1. 2004/07/31
    Steve R Jones

    Steve R Jones SuperGeek Staff Thread Starter

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    Several weeks ago I got into downloading and changing my themes. Some were more involved than others in that they changed icons and pointers etc…

    Problem(s): I can’t undo parts of one of the themes.

    1. See the attached pic. If I go into file types, they have the correct Windows default icon.
    2. If I create a shortcut on my desktop to a folder "“ it opens windows explorer search function
    3. My desktop IE icon is a generic windows file icon.
    4. In Explorer, recycle bin and control panel are generic
    5. Few icons in control panel are generic

    I’ve spent a couples hours on this (it was worse) and have run out of ideas. So far I have:
    1. Deleted shell32.dll
    2. Used TweakUI rebuild icon function several times
    3. Re-registered shell32.dll and a few other dll’s
    4. Downloaded a program called ShellExView that I saw Joe Hobart recommend to someone. I compared the settings on this problem machine against another and for the most part "seem" to be the same.
    5. Have switched back and forth between Classic style and XP style
    6. Have changed themes with windows default themes.
    7. Have deleted all non Windows themes from display properties.
    8. Searched high and low at M$ knowledgebase
    9. *** There are three copies of a file called ShellStyle.dll (this is probably the culprit) in three different folders Underneath the C:\Windows\Resources folder and another copy in the System32 folder. Can’t rename or delete cause they’re in use.

    I’m open for suggestions.
    Thanks in advance.
     
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    Steve R Jones

    Steve R Jones SuperGeek Staff Thread Starter

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    I went in safe mode and was able to remove ShellStyle.dll -> Bad Idea. Apparently it controls XP styles....so I put the files back..
     

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    Did you try running sfc /scannow ?
     
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    Steve R Jones

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    Forgot to mention that. I attempted, but Windows choked on the DELL OEM cd. BUT, am going to look for a work around. Thanks for the reminder.
     
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    Arie

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    Tell me exactly how it "chocked "...
     
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    Steve R Jones

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    It keeps telling me to insert the cd.
    The more info button says wrong cd or the drive is not functioning.

    Looks like if I click retry 12 million times it might finish.
     
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    Steve R Jones

    Steve R Jones SuperGeek Staff Thread Starter

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    I've actualy never had to run sfc. Does it take three weeks to run? I'm trying a regular full blown XPpro w/sp1 cd.


    The progress bar is moving!!!
     
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    Steve R Jones

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    No joy. I'm heading to bed. Will mess with the this in the morning after a ton of coffee ;)
     
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    Arie,
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    Steve R Jones

    Steve R Jones SuperGeek Staff Thread Starter

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    I was already set to "Restrict CD-ROM access to locally logged-on user only. "

    I ran sfc again with no luck.
     
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    For your problem with search opening instead of the folder, have you checked in the file types dialog to see if search is set as the default instead of open? Right click on a folder and see if search is in bold type. If that's not the problem, what happens when you right click on a folder and choose open?

    Did you use a third party app of some type to do this? If so, what was it. I found a thread at another site where somebody had a similar problem using style xp. This person posted that he/she couldn't change the windows icons (like the ones you mentioned) back to the default because the program they were using couldn't find them. You can view the thread here but you may have to have a membership to view the entire thread. You can give it try though and see if it works for you.

    http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/WinXP/Q_20862965.html#1022510

    In case you can't view it, this is the answer that worked for this person.

     
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    Steve R Jones

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    ZANDEER, you've put me on the road to success. Not there yet But it's looking better.

    using style xp -> Yep. That's the little trouble maker. I've ised it on a few machines without problems..I uninstalled it when the trial ran out. Which is probably about the time the folder icons started changing.

    I zapped about 50 entries under shell icons...I fired up my other pc to compare reg entries. It did a BSOD on me for the first time since I built it two months ago. (it's all better now) Also went through the Reg and renamed any folder with StyleXP in it...

    Right click folder->Search is bold and searches
    Right click folder->Open, opens the folder
    Double click folder & the search function comes up

    The search extension seems to be hiding from me but I'll find it..Icons aren't back after using TweakUI's rebuild function. Will try the one mentioned in your post.

    THANK YOU!

    (i went and got two pc's from the office that are in worse shape, but will be checking back after while.)
     
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    Arie

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    You have to undo that setting to be able to run SFC.
     
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    I undid it and it wouldn't move an inch with either xp cd.

    I'm still beaten it up slowly but surely.
     
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    Hmm. Im a little perplexed by this as well.. Noting that Luna is driven by 'verbs'. It sounds like the wrong verb is marked as default. As i understand the remainder of the problem, when you are in explorer, if you double click on a folder, it will bring up the search, rather than opening the folder.. and the search dialog is the same as if you right click->search.

    Check these keys out and compare them to a known working machine
    HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder
    HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shell\open\command

    You also should try forcing the open verb to default using tools-folder options-file types Folder - Advanced
     
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    They're identical.

    And the three start menu icons are still generic.
     
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    I had a look at mine in the tools>folder options and I don't see any search entry either. I didn't look at them before my first post. I just assumed it would be in there. I'm not sure where they hide it. I'll do some digging on this end too and see what I can come up with.

    Also, there's two entries there for folders. "File folder" and the other one is just plain "folder ". I've always seen this before and never gave it much thought but now I'm curious. Anybody know what the difference is between the two? I noticed that "file folder" doesn't have an entry for either open or search. There's a bunch of others there that I see when I right click on a folder but those two are missing. I do see those entries in the right click context menu for folders though. There's also a "find" entry there that I never see when I right click on any folder. :confused: The file type "folder" just shows three entrys. Explore, open and PowerDesk.

    Are you missing the open and search in the "file folder" too? If so, they must come from somewhere else. Somewhere in the registry no doubt. Maybe setting the open in the file type "folder" as the default would do the trick but I really can't say for sure. I'd sure set a restore point before I started messing around with these things though.

    Anyway, it seems we're probably on the right track here. I'll see what I can find (no promises :) ) on the search thing and hold off on the icons until you see if the other app can patch it up.
     
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    Why didn't you just do an SR when you first had the problem? Or did you, and it failed to fix it? Well, anyway, Steve, welcome to Tweakers Anonymous. Martinr121 & I go every Tuesday night, but we still can't quit our freaking tweaking! :D :D

    Quit fooling around. Announce to your family that you cannot be disturbed for a few hours, put on some of your favorite music, get a good cigar, do your backups and reinstall XP. You could probably get away with a repair, but if you have other things you've been meaning to change, now is a good time. The icons work, don't they? It's just frustrating to know you can't make them look like they used to... yep, that's a tweaker for ya! ;) Couldn't be satisfied with an "ordinary" theme... won't be satisfied with dumb looking (but functional) shortcuts. I know...done it to myself a hundred times... Had to try something out to see if I liked it... Had to click when I should have been chicken enough to cluck. sigh.

    At TA, we don't beat ourselves up with our IDtenT errors, we just commiserate and whip out our trusty XP disk, except for Martin, who hates WPA with a passion (MS has him red flagged because he's never satisfied with his hardware configurations! :rolleyes: ) How much do you get paid per hour? How many hours have you already put into banging your head against a wall? Okay, you learned lots on the journey (never ran an SFC before??? and you are an MVP?? You must be :) unbelievably good, or very lucky!) now it's time to quit and move on. (btw, beverage of choice at TA meetings!)

    Now, Joe Hobart, do me a favor and explain what you mean by
    How can a noun create an action? Is Luna different than other themes? Please be patient with me. You look at problems much differently than I do, because you understand all the ones and zeroes. :eek: :D

    Johanna
     
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    They tried to get me to join TA too but I always said "no way ". Being a hopelessly addicted tweaker is what's taught me nearly everything I know about windows. Where would I be if I'd given in to TA's pressure through all these years? Besides, there's a certain satisfaction in defeating the puter without giving in to repairing windows or running sfc. Yeah, I've never run sfc either. I suppose my time will come though but if I do it you can bet it will be a last resort (I must not get paid enough :) ). Can't have my puter getting the idea the it's the boss! Gotta go now. Turn out the lights, shut off the music, and turn off the TV. They're at my door again! :)
     
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    Ya. I've never "needed" to do a SFC or restore. I do get my fair share of errors and such. The best one was about this time last year. The Dell was three weeks old. Rebooted and have never seen such horrible looking errors in my life. Spent way too much time trying to get back up before I reformatted. Two days later BOOM, same errors about data corruption.

    Got a new drive sent to me from Dell. Couple days later and OMG this is getting old. The punch line: ATI "now" puts a message in their readme files with driver updates:

    Data corruption may occur if the Large System Cache feature is enabled in Windows XP.

    For complete details see; http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/4217.html

    This symptom does not occur on all systems. The key ingredients that lead to this symptom may include:

    - System Memory greater than 512 Meg. (1 gigabyte of RAM is common)
    - Large NTFS disk volumes. And multiple large volumes. (60-100 gigabyte hard drives possibly in RAID arrays)
    - AGP graphics with large AGP resource requirements (AGP aperture greater than default)
    - Large file transfers

    To avoid this symptom ensure the System Cache option is NOT selected for Memory usage. Use the Programs option.
     
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