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System Doesn't see new Drives

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    More info...
    - Asus 4P48X
    - Motherboard chipset i865P
    - Southbridge Intel 82801EB ICH5
    (is that the same as an "82801BA "?)


    BTW Everest let me select where to install it (I told it D: )....advisor installed on C: ...just curious, is there a way to force where to install an app? I'm just thinking outload here. Sorry if I ask too many questions :)
     
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    Well, my XP CD has no 3Com network adapter drivers on it....and not sure what one to download from 3Coms web site.... :confused:


    [oppps...we cross posted...just saw your reply....]
     
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    Sorry I am not familar with dual booting yet (ashamed to say never done it...maybe time to do so) but I believe that the last OS installed is the first on the boot menu so the default boot should be your D:. I also believe that you can edit the boot.ini file and change the order but you should get verification from someone else that is familiar with dual-boot.
     
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    Hi Jeff,

    I dual boot and Kent is right about D booting by default . I dual boot 9X (WinME) on C partition (drive) w/ XP on D partition (drive) and that's the way it works - easy for me to tell :)

    I have never edited the boot order - so can't speak to the results. What you can do is lower the 30 second count down safely. I read in one of your earlier post that one of the installations will be a kind of backup. By that I take it that you will boot into only one regularly. Use the one on C as the backup.

    To change the count down:

    Start > run > type msconfig > ok > boot.ini tab and change the "time out" form 30 seconds to whatever you want.

    Regards - Charles
     
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    Jeff,

    Forgot: source of info on XP.

    Use the Help and Support applet on the start menu if you havn't already.

    The System Restore function can be a lifesaver. Type that into the help - lots of info on what it is - does and how to operate it and what its limitations are. Its primary function is to guard the OS - not as a backup for your user data, with some exceptions - software executables for instance.

    Regards - Charles
     
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    Hey Jeff...How's it going?
     
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    Ok, I did download the 3Com 2000_cd_10.exe driver....but also found out when Jupiter sent me a copy of the DVR software (after the original 80GB Western Digital HD gave up the ghost) they included the driver on the CD...so I'll see if I can get that installed and working first....then work on a good was to see which XP system booted up.....wish I could re-lable them on the startup menu "C:Windows XP" and "D:Windows XP "... :cool:
     
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    Got the ethernet driver installed (with a warning my 3Com driver wasn't Windows XP Logo tested yet)...but I can now get on the internet with this machine...
     
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    Odd thing, scrolling a browser window in Explorer on the 1.8GHz PC seems about 3 to 4 times slower than on my 300MHz G3 (Beige G3 Mac Tower)....the PC also has much faster memory....humm?? :confused:

    http://apple-history.com/
    ...then under 1997 select "Power Macintosh G3" to see specs
    (I have 6MB Ram for Video)

    BTW I'm NOT looking for a Mac vs. PC debate!! Just curious why the speed difference. Maybe the PC loads pages faster? I really can't tell...but scrolling is much slower. The PC ought to cream the Mac here....maybe it's a video setting?
     
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    New problem:

    I then installed the DVR software Jupiter sent me on C: drive but when I went to run the software got this message:
    "DVR must be run on DVR Boards "
    ....then it forced me to turn off the computer.

    When I turned the computer back on I got this.....

    Windows could not start because the following file is missing
    or corrupt
    <WINDOWS ROOT>\SYSTEM32\hal.dll
    Please re-install a copy of the above file
    :eek:

    ....when I try to boot up Windows on D: I get a window saying it's running CHKDSK....then Windows loads from C: (I can tell by the background screen)....then the DVR software tries to run, and I get the "DVR must be run on DVR Boards" error.....then Windows shuts down the computer! :mad:

    So now I can't even boot up the machine....why would C: drive affect the sytem on D: at all?

    Jeff
     
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    Jeff,

    Can you bootup either one in safe mode? F8 key on bootup. Try the one on D first. If so, there is an option to return to the last known working configuration.

    Regards - Charles
     
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    ....Ok, started up in Safe Mode.....black background.... "Safe Mode" text in corners....

    No USB
     
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    I tried System Restore....not sure it helped....but I got XP to boot off the C: drive....I have the warning message floating on the screen "DVR must be run on DVR Boards "....if I press "Ok" it shuts the system down.....if I ignor it and move it to the side I can use the system

    Well, it looks like the DVR software installer totally wiped out the Windows XP system folders on the D: drive!! I wanted the DVR software on the 200GB partition.....the DVR software unstaller also changed the name of my "D:" drive....now they list as

    Local Disk (C: )
    DVR (D: )


    Jeff
     
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    Any idea on how to stop the DVR software from running at startup?

    I have contacted Jupiter...they have been very helpful, but are in Hong Kong...won't hear from them til tomorrow
     
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    Installing a fresh install of XP on "DVR D: ".....

    How to I rename that to remove the "DVR "?
     
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    Start > run > type msconfig > startup tab and uncheck.

    If starting all over, wipe the partition.

    Do one more thing concerning System Restore. By default, both copies of XP's SR is monitoring the other's installation.

    Right click on My Computer > Properties > SR tab. For C, which I gather is the only working one, where SR is monitoring the available drives, shut off monitoring D. When you get the XP on D working, do the same for C.

    Regards - Charles
     
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    1. Reinstalled XP on D:
    2. The "DVR" folder on D: was wiped out somehow....it's gone. But there is a "DVR" folder on C: ....would the XP installer wipe the D: drive when installing?
    3. I was albe to rename the C: and D: drive names....using Properties for the drive icons
    4. msconfig worked to stop DVR from running at startup on C:

    Now, CHKDSK keeps running at startup. After I used msconfig to stop DVR from running at startup I started getting a message saying the System Configuration Utility was used to change the way Windows starts....and it now starts up in Diagnostic mode....says to use System Configuration Utility to change that....I searched the drive, can't find any file by that name.

    How do you open System Configuration Utility? ....never mind, after I hit "Ok" it opened (msconfig wasn't opening it).

    "Selective Startup" is selected with:
    X Process System INI File
    X Process WIN.INI File
    X Load System Services
    O Load Startup Items
    X Use original Boot.INI O Use Modified Boot.INI [<DIMMED]

    X=Checkmark O=not checked



    .....I switched it back to "Normal Startup "......restarted, got the "DVR must be run on DVR Boards" error AGAIN....went into msconfig, turned it off in startup AGAIN....restarted, CHKDSK is on AGAIN......D: system boots....I restart with C: system.....USB not working at system select screen.....C: boots up back in Selective Startup mode as above AGAIN....eeee!!

    D: boots up [no USB at startup select screen]......I restart selecting C:.....I get the "DVR must be run on DVR Boards" error again....it's turned back on in the startup items!! Either that or Selective Startup keeps getting turned back on......

    Jeff
     
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    Hi Jeff,

    Sounds like you have the installation on D working.

    The one on C - I would leave alone untill you get some answers on the DVR business. Then reinstall C the way you did D.

    Am advising this because we can go round and round with this for a long time :)

    Concentrate on using - learning your way around XP in the meantime. No insult intended but there are simply too many basic things you don't know about this OS that the rest of us take for granted. Use the Help and Support applet "heavily ". And refer back to my "homily" on System Restore - you can make manual restore points before making changes to the system.

    Regards - Charles

    EDIT: The trouble started, I think, because DVR insists on installing on the C partition, or parts of it anyway. Not being familiar with it, don't know if the user can intervene to direct the install to another partition.
     
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    Thanks Charles, I'll play with this more tonight when I come back into work (1:30AM). Yea, I'm trying to get up to speed on Windows/Windows XP ASAP...so please pardon some dumb questions :)

    Thanks for the help everyone... :D
    Jeff
     
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