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    chewy

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    i am running 2000 and have 800 duron, 256, 32 nvidia, and whenever i run an mpeg file the computer locks and then i can only move the mouse for a moment before the computer freezes and i have to manually restart. i checked and there is an irq conflict, where im using onboard lan, onboard sound, and 2 usb's all conflicting on irq 7 can someone give me some ideas??
    cw chin
     
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    Do you have any free IRQs? Have you checked to see if anything will move?
     

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    conflicts

    What slot is the sound card in? Place no cards in the pci slot 1 under the AGP slot. The USB splats ! are using the parrallel ports irq, oops. Is the usb "enabled" in the bios? You can shuffel things around here until windows apoint the irq's correctly or set them manually in the bios, ah sometimes :) I like to get one hardware device working at a time. Is the printer usb or parrellel? If usb, then you can free that irq 7 in the bios "intergrated devices" menu port/parallel=[disable]:)
     
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    Do you have any free IRQs? Have you checked to see if anything will move?

    I dont think i can move anything.. i tried but i dont know how..


    What slot is the sound card in? Place no cards in the pci slot 1 under the AGP slot. The USB splats ! are using the parrallel ports irq, oops. Is the usb "enabled" in the bios? You can shuffel things around here until windows apoint the irq's correctly or set them manually in the bios, ah sometimes I like to get one hardware device working at a time. Is the printer usb or parrellel? If usb, then you can free that irq 7 in the bios "intergrated devices" menu port/parallel=[disable]

    soundcard is onboard. usb is enabled in teh bio. video card is on the pci, i tried everything enabling and inenabling nothing works... i dont have a printer, and all the conflicts are all on irq 7.. i really dont know what else there is to do
    help..
     
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    Rancher

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    conflicts

    What mouse interface serial or ps/2? Ps/2 is round din plug & serial is 9 pin rectangular plug. If mouse has software installed this may be your prob. Some logitech & MS mouse drivers steel memory & dma channels which are used for video. I would start with replacing a serial with ps/2 mouse as this would free a serial port irq. Also is your modem internal? If so you can enter bios & disable serial port comm 2 & if you have a ps/2 mouse you can free another irq by disable comm port 1.:)
     
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    Chewy, Try disabling any Legacy support in the BIOS. Windows is blind when it comes to assigning Resources and cannot see what DOS has allocated to some Legacy devices. You often have to help it along.

    Good luck

    We doubled Rancher Hi to you! Chewy, you're in good hands with this guy, I'll just lay out in the bushes and watch. :) I'll drop back later.
     
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    dos to be not to be dos

    chewy , trust me you can move things around. And a big howdy to you Zephyr ! Heck jump in, the water's fine;)
     
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    i am running 2000

    Is this an upgrade from and earlier version of Windows or was 2K the original OS installed,

    i checked and there is an irq conflict, where im using onboard lan, onboard sound, and 2 usb's all conflicting on irq 7

    Do they show actaul confilcts or are they all just using IRQ7 ?

    Plus I do not see a Modem in the List. If this was an upgrade from an earlier OS I am willing to bet that the * possibility * exists that there is a PCI ( or onboard ) Modem involved that may be gumming up the works.

    It is not a bit unusual for a Modem to mess up the works when trying to take it from one OS to the other. They will stop PCI Steering from working properly.

    Also I would think that the Modem and the Audio card * MAY BE * trying to use the same IRQ. Would not be the first time if they are. And quite often the Modem does not show as being a conflict. ( at least in device manager of 98 )

    Zephyr
    Windows is blind when it comes to assigning Resources and cannot see what DOS

    That is for sure. That is why I keep the BIOS set to NO for Plug-N-Pray OS. ( in Win98 FE ). But then again, I have never had an IRQ problem when a Modem was not involved.

    Rancher
    trust me you can move things around.

    You are correct. You should be able to do that. But * SOMETIMES * if a modem is invloved it it is hard to do. And * sometimes * the darn Modem won't move.

    BillyBob
     
  10. 2002/04/07
    chewy

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    "What mouse interface serial or ps/2? Ps/2 is round din plug & serial is 9 pin rectangular plug. If mouse has software installed this may be your prob. Some logitech & MS mouse drivers steel memory & dma channels which are used for video. I would start with replacing a serial with ps/2 mouse as this would free a serial port irq. Also is your modem internal? If so you can enter bios & disable serial port comm 2 & if you have a ps/2 mouse you can free another irq by disable comm port 1. "

    My Mouse is on the USB its a logitech.. yeah modem is internal but i dont use it for i use the onboard lan

    Chewy, Try disabling any Legacy support in the BIOS. Windows is blind when it comes to assigning Resources and cannot see what DOS has allocated to some Legacy devices. You often have to help it along.



    dos to be not to be dos
    chewy , trust me you can move things around. And a big howdy to you Zephyr ! Heck jump in, the water's fine

    "how do you move things around "



    "Is this an upgrade from and earlier version of Windows or was 2K the original OS installed,

    IT IS THE ORIGINAL WINDOWS 2K NOT AN UPGRADE

    i checked and there is an irq conflict, where im using onboard lan, onboard sound, and 2 usb's all conflicting on irq 7

    Do they show actaul confilcts or are they all just using IRQ7 ? "

    I CHECKED IN COMPUTER MANAGEMENT ADN IT SAYS TAHT THERE IS AN CONLFICT ON IRQ 7 "

    Plus I do not see a Modem in the List. If this was an upgrade from an earlier OS I am willing to bet that the * possibility * exists that there is a PCI ( or onboard ) Modem involved that may be gumming up the works.

    YEAH THERE IS AN INTERNAL MODEM INVOLVED BUT ITS NOT BEING USED..

    It is not a bit unusual for a Modem to mess up the works when trying to take it from one OS to the other. They will stop PCI Steering from working properly.

    Also I would think that the Modem and the Audio card * MAY BE * trying to use the same IRQ. Would not be the first time if they are. And quite often the Modem does not show as being a conflict. ( at least in device manager of 98 )

    Zephyr
    Windows is blind when it comes to assigning Resources and cannot see what DOS

    That is for sure. That is why I keep the BIOS set to NO for Plug-N-Pray OS. ( in Win98 FE ). But then again, I have never had an IRQ problem when a Modem was not involved.

    Rancher
    trust me you can move things around.

    You are correct. You should be able to do that. But * SOMETIMES * if a modem is invloved it it is hard to do. And * sometimes * the darn Modem won't move.

    BillyBob

    YEAH I DONT KNOW HOW TO MOVE IT AROUND... I WILL TRY AGAIN.. IF ANYONE CAN WALK ME THROUGH THAT WOULDL BE GREAT..

    CW
     
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    Do they show actaul confilcts or are they all just using IRQ7 ? "

    OK. That is what I was asking for. It says PCI Steering ( or whatever 2K calls it ) is not working properly. Either case IRQ asignments are getting messed up.

    yeah modem is internal but i dont use it for i use the onboard lan
    YEAH THERE IS AN INTERNAL MODEM INVOLVED BUT ITS NOT BEING USED..


    Am I correct in assumming that you may had a Cable of DSL modem which may be using the onboard lan ?

    If so is the Internal Modem disabled ? If it is not it still * might * be causing problems.

    Sometimes if a Cable or DSL Modem is being used via the LAN card and an Internal Modem still exists it will cause problems.

    This problem reads very similar to one or two on the old board where the Internal Modem had to be removed in order to get things to work properly. I believe at least one was using 2K.

    An External Modem seems to cause no problem. At least they did not for me as I had both an External Modem and a Cable Modem and both worked fine.

    I could be way off base and completely wrong here but I am still blaming the problem on the Internal Modem. I have had problems with them when just plugging the darn thing in without even attempting to use it.

    As long as you are not using it why not try removing it or at least disabling it in I guess what you know as Computer Managemant. ( it is Device Manager in 98 )

    BillyBob
     
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  12. 2002/04/07
    chewy

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    still confused

    on the device manager. the modem isnt showing i disabled it in the bios but nothing has changed there is still the 2 usbs one w/ a mouse on it another to my digital camera, my video card, lan card, which isnt using cable or dsl, for that im in a dorm on a lan, and the onboard sound. i was using onboard video and installed a video card, and upgraded teh dram, but still the same problems my computer didnt do this when i first got it. but perhaps when i got my software of something involving legacy..
    still dont know what to do
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    Guess What.

    I am at a loss as to what to do now.

    Other than the one or two IRQ problems that I have had ( which were fixed by getting rid of the Internal Modem ) I have not had any.

    BilyBob
     
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  14. 2002/04/07
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    by removing do you mean physically removing it from my motherboard??

    cw chin
     
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    by removing do you mean physically removing it from my motherboard??

    Yes. That is what I consider as removing.
     
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    try this

    In your bios
    1. Set plug and play os to NO.
    2. Disable both serial ports if not using.
    3. Disable on board video and modem if not using.

    When you boot up go to
    start>programs>accessories>systemtools>syteminfo.
    Once in there go to hardware > irq's.
    Post the listing of irq's and whats using them here!
     
  17. 2002/04/07
    chewy

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    In your bios
    1. Set plug and play os to NO.
    2. Disable both serial ports if not using.
    3. Disable on board video and modem if not using.

    did 1 & 2 and disable the modem but cant disable the video
    12 microsoft apci-compliant system
    14, 15 primary and secondary ide channel
    7 Via USB Universal host controller
    7 Via USB Universal host controller
    7 Via AC'97 Audio Controller WDM
    7 NVIDIA RIVA TNT Model 64/Model 64 pro
    7 Realtek rtl8139 family pci fast ethernet nic
    8 system cmos/real time clock
    13 numeric data processor
    6 standard floppy disk controller
    1 standard 101/102-key or microsoft natural ps/2 keyboard

    hope this will hlep you help me
     
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    Is it possible to move the NIC card to another PCI slot?
    Is the USB built into the motherboard or is it an add-in card too? If add-in, can it be moved? Also in the bios setup, do you have any choices to force the video card to use a certain IRQ?
     
  19. 2002/04/08
    chewy

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    nic card is onboard.. usb is onboard as well... i dont think that you can force the video card to use a certain irq
     
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    I guess 'force' is the wrong choice of words......I've seen some bios setups where you can reserve an IRQ for a certain device.
     
  21. 2002/04/09
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    USB

    Do you really have 2 usb host controllers?
     
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