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Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by kengster, 2004/06/25.

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  1. 2004/06/25
    kengster

    kengster Inactive Thread Starter

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    i heard the one in XP is not good. Is it true? if it is,what is the best one?

    thanx.
     
  2. 2004/06/25
    RayH

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    I don't know if it's "not any good," but I like another one better. Diskeeper Lite. Diskeeper Lite is the free version of Diskeeper.

    Get it HERE and get it fast. It's no longer available from the publisher, which means it'll be coming off the web pretty soon.
     
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    PeteC

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    The native defragger in XP is OK, a version of Diskeeker by Executive Software (these people wrote the lite version in XP) is, IMO, excellent. I use the Pro version - it defrags all my drives in the background as and when needed automatically.

    Get the lite version while you can - only operates in manual mode - no auto, but is very good.

    Note if your file system is NTFS this can stand a higher degree of fragmentation than FAT 32 before performance drops off noticeably.
     
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    As Pete wrote: its OK - I would say more than OK - and written by the DiskLite folks.

    Are you experiencing any problems? If the Task Schedular service is running on your system - probably is - maintenance defragging is taking place on your system on a schedule transparent to you.

    Regards - Charles
     
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    I'm happy with the version included with XP. Does what I need and does it fine.

    But there are more features with the full blown version.

    Just make sure you stick with a diskeeper version of some sort. From what I can tell, the built-in version does some background arranging and has a different structure that it considers ideal than some other products.

    For instance, I ran the Norton defragger for years and liked it. With XP, I found that Notron would defrag and the onboard would immediately decide the drive was badly fragged and start moving things around.
     
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    Second it and recommend it! Using Diskeeper 8.0 Pro and love it. Set it and forget it. :cool:
     
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    Zander

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    I think the XP native defragger does just fine. That said, I have to say that I too use Diskeeper Pro (I, like El Camino, like to set it and forget it). With some of the other defraggers I have to agree with Newt. They seem to fight each other. But, I don't think this is the case with either the lite or pro version of Diskeeper. When you install either version of Diskeeper you'll find that the shortcut in the start menu that used to open windows defragmenter will now open Diskeeper. I have to admit that I haven't done much searching to find out what's happening here but my best guess is that the XP defrag tool is somehow disabled. I never checked before I installed it so I don't know just what the name of the XP defrag file is. There's still a defrag.exe in the windows system32 folder but it only opens a dos box for a second or two (I doubt that's the one). The shortcut to the defragmenter with Diskeeper installed points to dfrg.msc which of course opens Diskeeper. Now, out of curiousity, can somebody out there that's using the native XP defragger tell me what file the shortcut points too (start>all programs>accessories>system tools>disc defragmenter)? Kind of wondering if the original gets renamed or what.
     
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    %SystemRoot%\System32\dfrg.msc on my XP-pro system using only the defrag version that came with the PC.
     
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    Zander

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    Thanks Newt. This kind of confirms my suspicions (maybe). The same file on my system opens Diskeeper. I can't really find any file that looks like it might have been renamed (if they do rename it, how do they get around system file protection ? ) unless they use a name that's not at all similar to the original. Before I installed Diskeeper Pro I used Diskeeper Lite and I uninstalled it before the Pro installation. At the time (before installing the Pro version) out of curiousity, I tried the defrag shortcut after I uninstalled Diskeeper Lite and it started XP's native defrag tool just as it had before I had installed DL. All of this leads me to believe that when you install either version, it's doing something to disable the regular XP defrag. Anybody have any ideas here?
     
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    It would appear that the native defragger is not disabled, but replaced. Executive Software provides the native XP defragger in a "ultra-lite" version of Diskeeper, so installing the actual Diskeeper program is more of an upgrade than anything else. If you do a repair installation of XP when Diskeeper is installed, you end up with Diskeeper shortcuts that lead to the XP defragger. The defrag snap-in to the MMC is simply exchanged.
     
  12. 2004/06/26
    kengster

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    thanx

    the diskkeeper lite is cool.. it faster obviously.. it tells "u hv to defrag ".. when xp tells u dont hv to.. it gonna take sometime to see how cool it is though.. thnx guys..
     
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    A lot of free versions of applications have an autonag. Some people like the program so much they pay just to get rid of the autonag.
     
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    I am also a very happy Diskeeper 8.0 user...works great...Love "Set IT and Forget IT "...
     
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    Personally, I use the full version Diskeeper 8. I pass around Lite.
     
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    I don't know about Diskeeper "Lite ", but Diskeeper "Home" is incompatible with XP Pro. I'm also a happy user of Diskeeper Pro 8, and it may be worth mentioning that there's a new build (478) available.
     
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    Jim,
    being a user with high confidence in Ghost, I promptly installed Diskeeper Lite on my XP pro system to test it.

    It works like a charm but none of the fancy stuff, only the manual defragger which takes care of one volume at a time.

    Christer
     
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    Newt wrote ...
    "With XP, I found that Notron (sic) would defrag and the onboard would immediately decide the drive was badly fragged and start moving things around. "​
    The same thing has been true ever since Win95, if I remember correctly. Just one more of the many reasons I quit using Symantec/Norton programs.

    Christer wrote ...
    "Being a user with high confidence in Ghost, I promptly installed Diskeeper Lite on my XP pro system to test it.

    "It works like a charm but none of the fancy stuff, only the manual defragger which takes care of one volume at a time. "​
    I got curious, so uninstalled DKPro and installed DKLite, just to check it out. As you say, it works like a charm, but seems to be slightly slower than DKPro (probably my imagination, but I have to come up with some kind of rationalization for having laid out the cash for Pro. :D)

    My comment about DK "Home" not being compatible with XP Pro had nothing to do with DKLite, which is based on version 7.x. Diskeeper 8.0 comes in two flavors, "Home" and "Pro ". Pro will work with any version of Windows, from 95 on, while Home will work only with Win9x/Me and XP Home.

    Finally, the current upgrade to DKPro (build 478) looks as though it should be an independent program, as it's nearly the same size as the original installation file, but it must be installed over the original installation.
     
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    kengster

    kengster Inactive Thread Starter

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    me like it!

    i asked a simple question.. u guys turned it into discussion..thats what i love bout this forum.. i know more than i ever thought.. thnx guys.. u rocks!!
     
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    If nothing else, we like to jawbone ... or should that be "keybone "? :D
     
  21. 2004/07/06
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    oh yeah! another service loaded in xp bg and monitoring pc activity, should be very crowded now..

    i think that the defrag of xp is the same as diskeeper lite but better cause it does bg defrag setting somewhere "optimize disk when idle ".

    DK is a very fast defragmenter, good for large volumes, but the reason of this is that it makes only partial defragmentation, defrags files not space,
    so if you need to consolidate space,to set a pagefile eg., its not very good,

    see the picture once dk finish its work, dont you see all those blank spaces between files?
     
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