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Motherboard bios update question

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    Totallyfree

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    Hi ... I'm not sure whether this question should go here or else where ... I have windows xp pro and i want to update my motherboard bios setting ... Now i was told in doing so i would have to use dos but i don't understand how i could use dos if xp pro doesn't have dos ... So can anyone explain how that is done ??? Thanks
     
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    Can you first tell us what it is you're trying to do?
    Is it a setting in your bios you're trying to get to? Or in fact, trying to flash your bios to a newer version?
     

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    Totallyfree

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    Hi ... Yes i want to flash my bios to a newer version ... I have the newest bios version on a floppy ... But i don't understand what i have to do to flash it ... Something about using dos but i thought windows xp doesn't have dos , So how can it be done if i don't have dos ??? Thanks
     
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    Can you tell I'm stalling with an answer for you? :rolleyes:

    Are you aware of the risks? You DO know that you can quite easily end up with a lovely doorstop for your efforts?

    Why are you flashing it? Just because there's a newer version? What specifically does this flash address that you're after?

    Have you ever done this type of thing before?

    How much research have you done into what type of flash you'll be using?

    Can I talk you out of doing it? :)

    *edit*
    You've got your experience level listed as a beginner. It's all I had to base this post on. If you've no experience with this.... DON'T DO IT!!!
     
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    Totallyfree

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    Daizy Hi , You are cute , i like that lol ... I wish i didn't need to do this but the reason why i am trying is because of my case tower has 2 usb ports in the front and they don't seem to be working correctly , yes the wires are connected correctly , i check them out and they are .... Anything that requires 2.0 for the usb in the front ports windows doesn't seem to recongnize it ... My motherboard cd has a utility program call LiveUpdate which would be the easy way of updating my bios but when i try to install this program from my MB disk i getting errors >>> Unable to load related DLLs. Installation will be aborted now , Click ok and get this >>> setup program detect no ASUS motherboard Installation will be aborted now... I did check devise manager area and i see no yellow check marks , just when i try using the front port i will see unknown devise but no yellow check mark ... I added my motherboard and tower URL links below ... Thanks for any help i get in advance ....

    http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4p800-d/overview.htm

    http://www.antec.com/us/pro_details_enclosure.php?ProdID=91082
     
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    Daizy

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    Ohhhh.... you're just not going to like my answer! :rolleyes:

    If the update utility says it doesn't detect any Asus motherboard, then this can only be because it's either a) not an Asus motherboard, or b) because the motherboard (is an Asus but) doesn't support the LiveUpdate utility. In all, from the sound of it, I'd advise against trying to update the bios. Besides, I don't think it will solve your problem. My best guess is that the wires are NOT connected the right way.
     
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    I just gotta agree with Daizy on this one.

    Experience ( bad ) speaking.

    BillyBob
     
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    My last mobo was an Asus A7V333 - USB 2 capable, but I cound not get USB 2 to work on it - yours may be the same even though it is a Pentium board as opposed to AMD with different chipsets.

    I agree with the others - play safe - leave well alone unless you are prepared to accept the risks :)
     
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    Sounds like you are trying to use WinFlash or something similar and I'm not a big advocate of doing any bios upgrades in anything other than DOS - in answer to your question, one runs DOS from a floppy. Now to give you a fourth vote for Don't Do It - don't try flashing your BIOS to resolve this problem. Go to the Antec site and get the cable pinout printouts for your case's front USB ports. Then look in your MB manual and check out those USB header pinouts - I'll bet you one cup of Daisy's coffee that your cable headers don't match up with your MB pinouts - if its a nine pin plug (cable header) you may need to split em with an exacto knife - can be done, but requires a very steady hand and great eyes or a steady hand and good glasses. Good Luck.

    ;)
     
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    If the wiring of that Antec case is similar to the Antec Sonata each cable is individually terminated - not a multi pin plug and very fiddly to get connected.

    Antec cases come with a very comprehensive manual covering the connections for the front ports.
     
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    Hi ... Its a nine pin plug (cable header) and yes they are individually terminated to connect to the motherboard only but from the tower front usb ports there is a multi pin plug , You can't connect it wrong , it only goes one way on .... Also i have check the wires they are connected correctly to the motherboard its really not that hard to do , my terminated are number in a fashion that you can't really make a misktake , it tell you more or less which side they should go on , I have in following order , power first then the - follow by the + then the ground , so i know the wires are connected right ... Now i have in the past installed this program before ( Liveupdate ) but after doing a reformat i haven't installed it again.... Now when i do try i get the Asus motherboard which it is , is not recognize ... My manual for my motherboard says P4P800 deluxe Asus , so if it any a Asus motherboard what else can it be ??? Its really no big deal i just though i could get these usb ports to work with 2.0 ... If you happen to look at the link you will notice the liveupdate is from asus as well , which has in the past work on this motherboard ... I need some missing dll.s files to install it ... Thanks goes out to all the help i am getting
     
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    Check the bios to see if the USB for those USB connectors are enabled.. if USB2 is enabled. I haven't checked the mainboard manual, but if it has a firewire option as well, it could be that you've connected the front cables to that port instead... in which case you may have fried the circuits in the front connectors.
     
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    hehehe .......
    I'm not going to spend the time looking at Antec's site or Asus's and I'll take you at your word that you have thoroughly checked this out and verified the pin outs. (I'm trying to be more diplomatic these days)

    At the same time, I'll add that not all MoBo's have USB pinouts that are going to match what your case has for pinouts - trust me - the problem is that it appears to only go one way - what if you had an ABIT MoBo - think that same plug would match? Gigabyte? MSI? hehehe .........
    x-actoly my point.

    ;)
     
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    :D Rockster2U
    I was just about to post something similar. I'm embarrassed to say how many times I've done it myself. Drives me nuts! :p
     
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    Hi ... I didn't notice any usb2 but i will check closer now ... It does have a firewire as well at the front but those wires were never connected , also to connect the firewire on my motherboard the pin header are a nice bright orange color , so i wouldn't connect my usb wires there .... I have view my MB manual often and it does have 2 area for my usb which are listed such as >>> usb_56 >>> usb_78 these have nine pin heads , now there theses other 2 that have 3 pin heads and they are listed such as >>> usbpw56 >>> usbpw78... I have my usb wires which are only 8 on the following area usb_78 , i'm curious now if the usbpw78 has anything to do with setting them up correctly ??? Don't know just of yet ...
     
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