Moving email from one drive to another

I want to be able to move emails from my C drive to my E drive (Iomega 20 gig portable) which is connected through a BUS port on my Gateway Solo laptop. It has a 4 gig hard drive that is close to full. I use NS 7.1 for email and have thousands of emails on file in folders within the NS program resident on C drive. If I can move them over they would need to be available for viewing and/or forwarding etc. on E as if they were in my inbox or in a folder on C drive. I read one of Ramona's threads "Archiving and Accessing Netscape/Mozilla Mail on CD" but am not sure how to do the task. It seems that i should substitute "E:" for CD in your instructions. I have made the archive on C that points to E and set up a folder named archive on E drive. I'm not sure what to do next. Thanks for your help. lgbest

 

Welcome to the Forum, lgbest!

Hi lgbest,

I am getting ready to go out for the evening, but will answer your questions when I return. Everything you want to do can be accomplished. In the meantime, on archiving Mail to CD, read my web page here:

http://home.att.net/~cherokee67/archivemailcd.html

Ramona

 

Thanks Ramona - I have read your thread, however, I don't have a CD burner. I created the Archive folder within NS 7.1 on C drive and also created an Archive folder on E drive. I'm stuck. What's next?

Thanks.

lgbest

 

Hi lgbest,

Let me first say, that I am somewhat illiterate when it comes to multi HDD's and partitioned drives. Where did you set up the folder on the E: drive, i.e., what is the path to that folder?

Ramona

 

Hi Ramona - I created a folder which is at E:\Archive. When I was following your directions I substituted "E" for CD down to "on the CD create a folder named: Archive ". I put that folder on my E drive as above. The next step says to navigate to the ~\*slt\Mail....... folder on the HD. When I created the Archive on C drive I pointed the local directory to E:\Windows\Application data\mozilla\Users50\lgbest\3oz7ef.slt-new\mail\archive.invalid. This is where I am - I have not copied files because I'm not sure which ones to copy from which to where. The E drive is an Iomega 20 gig HDD which is always connecteed to my computer at a BUS 1.0 port.

Regards,

lgbest

 

lgbest,

If you want to send and receive from your E: drive, then you will have to set up a Mail Account on C: and in the Server Settings | Local directory field, point to the Mail Account folder on E:

On the E: drive, copy the Mail folder that you just set up from the C: drive. The path will be similar to E:\Mail\mail.isp.net. You should then be able to send, and receive from E:. You can also copy any Mail from any Account to this new account.

Ramona

 

PMFJI,

Further to what Ramona said, if you want to MOVE all your mail to E:\drive

Copy ALL of the MAIL folder to E:\
This will create E:\MAIL\with all your "mail.isp.com-n" folders.

Then edit your "local directory" pathes to reflect the E:\mail\ locations

Your current "local diretory" pathe reads something like:
C:\Windows\Application data\mozilla\Users50\lgbest\3oz7ef.slt\mail\mail.isp.com

Just change the:
C:\Windows\Application data\mozilla\Users50\lgbest\3oz7ef.slt part to to read:

E:\

Final pathe should read something like:
E:\MAIL\mail.isp.com

If you have more that one account, change additional accounts "local directory" pathes also.

**** edited ****

I am a little confused on exactly what you are trying to accomplish.

Do you want to regain disk space on C:\ drive ?
How many account do you have ?

Hope I have not confused the issue further....


regards:captjlddavis

 

It would appear that he wants to use his E drive, which apparently is a second drive to act as an archive for the mail he has on drive C thus allowing him to free up the mail folder there. He also states that his E Drive is "nearly full" so one assumes it is his intention to use it to full capacity.

Your instructions should simplify the method as outlined by Ramona and enable him to accomplish this.

regards

 

I want to free up space on my C drive (not E drive) which is almost full by moving most of my email over to E drive - BUT - I want to be able to open the now archived emails (hopefully now on E drive) if I need to review, forward etc. I am currently archiving on a monthly basis but they are still on my C drive taking up needed space.

Regards,

lgbest

 

lgbest,

How are you archiving on "c:\" drive

How many accounts do you have.

It is do-able

regards:captjlddavis

 

If this is the way you want to go, then this is what you do next:

To ensure we are on the same page, you have set up a "Dummy Account" on the C: drive, named "Archive ", and copied all the messages that you wish to archive, into this folder. Yes?

You have set up a folder on the E: drive named "Archive" (E:\Archive). Yes?

If you have done the above, then close Netscape and Quick Launch
Open Windows Explorer
Open the *.slt\Mail\Archive folder on the C: drive
Copy all files/folders, including SBD folders (containing subfolders)

Next:
Open the E:\Archive folder on the E: drive. Paste the files/folders you just copied from the C: Archive folder, into this folder. The contents of the folder will be similar to this:

Directory of E:\Archive

Archived Mail.sbd (This folder contains the subfolders)
Archived Mail
Drafts
Inbox
Sent
Templates
Trash


On the C: drive, the Server Settings | Local directory path must point to:
E:\Archive

Keep in mind that you can view, edit, and send messages, but you cannot receive messages in the "Dummy Account ".

OR

If you choose to move the entire Mail folder to the E: drive, then follow captjlddavis' instructions:

Copy the entire MAIL folder to E:\
This will create E:\MAIL\with all your "mail.isp.com-n" folders.

Then edit your "local directory" pathes to reflect the E:\mail\ locations

Your current "local directory" pathe reads something like:
C:\Windows\Application data\mozilla\Users50\lgbest\3oz7ef.slt\mail\mail.isp.com

Just change the:
C:\Windows\Application data\mozilla\Users50\lgbest\3oz7ef.slt part to to read:

E:\

Final pathe should read something like:
E:\MAIL\mail.isp.com

If you have more that one account, change additional accounts "local directory" pathes also.
---

You mentioned that you have thousands of messages. Don't leave more than a couple of MB of Mail in your Inbox, or you surely risk losing all that Mail.

These three choices are for you to decide, and hopefully we haven't totally confused the issue for you.

Please post back with any further questions.

Ramona

 

Hi Folks - I've been away and have returned to try to get this task completed. Ramona, I have done exactly what you laid out in you last reply. I also changed the local Directory at C:\Archive... to E:\Archive as you pointed out. I then moved several mail folders(including contents) as subfolders of the inbox to the dummy account on C drive. To check it out I opened E:\Archive and the folders were there. Now the problem continues.

To open the E:\Archive folder Windows asks what program to use. I designate Netscape and 7.1 opens. Unfortunately the emails open in Navigator as documents, not as email. This means all of the codes and gibberish are included. Second, it will take forever to open a specific email if I could ever find it through the gibberish. I had been archiving on my C drive by year ie: 2003 as a sub folder of my inbox, so the folder holds 12 months of incoming emails. I have also been archiving sent emails the same way. Ideally I will create other folders to be attached to the E:\Archive inbox.

All I want to do is to have the mail transfer over to E drive as email not documents so that when I open the E:\Archive folder I have an inbox with sub folders, I can open the folder, click on the title and the email opens.

Have I missed a step somewhere?

Regards,

lgbest

 

lgbest,

Your results are beyond my comprehension without actually being able to take a look at what you've done. I think that now it is quite clear that you need to move ALL your mail to the E: drive. You should now follow captjlddavis' advice.

Forget the Archive "Dummy Account ", and simply move your Mail folder to the E: drive. It can be moved to any location, and you can direct Netscape to the Mail folder by manually changing the "Local directory" Server Settings in each account to point to: E:\Mail\mail.isp.net

Back up the Mail folder before doing any editing, and ensure that Netscape and Quick Launch are closed.


Ramona

 

Hi Ramona and Captain - I'm still trying to get this to work. I'm also probably driving you guys crazy!

What happens (per your instructions) is when I move mail from my lgbest account (say the Inbox) on C drive to Dummy C, it does indeed copy into the E:\Archive Inbox folder that you had me set up. When I click on the E:Archive Inbox folder, Windows first asks what program do I want to use to open the contents. I select Netscape and Netscape 7.1 opens and the contents of the Inbox folder on E:\Archive open in Navigator as documents, not in NS mail. I am trying to get them to open in the "Mail and Newsgoups" program as email i.e. the Inbox would open with the titles etc. of the email . I could then select which one I want to review, forward etc. and it would open as an email. The folders and files in E:\Archive read like inbox, inbox.sbd, inbox.msf., etc. I'm not sure what this means.

You say to forget the Dummy account on C drive. I think you are telling me to point the entire lgbest account on C to E drive (E:\Mail\mail.isp.net). I think what would happen is all mail would end up on E drive and not be resident on C drive at all. For a couple of reasons I don't want to move all mail to the E drive, only old mail that I select and want to get off my C:\ hard drive but still access as email on E drive. (I have now installed NS7.1 on E drive but don't know how to get mail from C Drive it into that program, besides it looks like NS7.1 is defaulting back to C drive.) Also, my E drive is an Iomega HDD portable and it has an auto copy feature called Automatic Backup v. 1.02. You can tell the program exactly which folders/files to copyover to E. Maybe there's a way to get all mail copied as email to E drive but still retain the originals on C drive. Does somebody out there know how to do this? I could then just delete from C drive and accomplish pretty much what I want to do. I would still have to clean mail on E drive but not very often.

So I guess the issue still is how do I get email to open in E drive as email, not as documents in Navigator.

Thanks for all of your help -- and-- if we solve this it should also help others.

Regards,

lgbest

 

lgbest,

Don't open the E:\Archive in Windows Explorer. Open it in Netscape Mail & Newsgroups. If you set up the Dummy Account correctly
Edit | Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings | Server Settings | Local directory
The path in the Local directory field should point to E:\Archive. Your Mail is accessible from within Netscape Mail. The Mail should open as any message would.

Inbox = Mail
Inbox.sbd = Subfolders
Inbox.msf = Mail Summary Files

Ramona

 

Hi Ramona - thanks for the reply. I must be a real dummy. When I open NS7.1 from my desktop icon, Systray or from my Start button I assume it is opening on C drive. Am I correct? When I set up the dummy account exactly as you told me to and moved messages from the lgbest account on C to the dummy account on C the dummy definitely points to E:Archive and the files are over there on E drive (but open in navigator from MS Explorer). If I am in NS7.1\ mail (which I think is open on C drive) and I open any of the files or folders I've moved to the dummy account aren't they still on C drive? Before I created the dummy account I had 1.65 gigabites in my C:\windows\start menu\windows\applicationdata\mozilla\users50\lgbest\3o9zi7ef.slt.new\mail folder. and in the same scenario on E drive I had 1.61 gigabites. I still have 1.45 gigabytes in that folder on C drive, and 1.42 giga on E drive. Therefore, it looks to me that the dummy folder is still on C drive even though it has copied to E:\archive. If I delete the dummy files using the mail program then empty the trash I will gain space on C but I'm afraid I will lose the emails forever.

Regards,

Graham

 

If you have Netscape installed on the C: drive, then yes. Right click the Desktop shortcut, select "Properties" and then click on the "Shortcut" tab. Does the Target field contain this path:
"C:\Program Files\Netscape\Netscape\Netscp.exe "

I have never seen this happen before in the 7 years I've used Netscape. You are saying that you open Mail & Newsgroups on the C: drive. You highlight the Inbox of the dummy account, and Windows Explorer opens? You havn't set up the Dummy account correctly then. Could you upload a screen shot of your opened E:\Archive folder, as viewed in Windows Explorer? I would very much like to see that, and your Server Settings for the Dummy Account, as viewed in Netscape Mail & Newsgroups. (If you have that capability)

I thought you were moving them to the E: drive due to the limited space on C:. Wasn't this the primary purpose of setting up the Dummy account?

If you only copied the archived mail, then yes, it will be on both drives, and you have defeated your purpose, as far as space on the C: drive. You should remove the archive mail from your C: drive. You won't lose anything, if you make a backup.

Ramona

 

moving mail

Hi Ramona - i've been traveling again. I guess i'm not making things very clear am I? I created the dummy account on C drive and moved the messages to the various folders on the dummy account. Now I can (and did) delete them from my (account) Inbox on C drive and from the folders under the Inbox or the Sent boxes as well. At this point the moved messages are still on C drive but they are also in the E drive archive folder because that's where the dummy account points to.

Unfortunately if I open E drive, then click on the archive folder they open in Navigator, as documents, not as emails. So they are stored as documents with all of the coding etc. imbedded in the documents. This doesn't help because I can't do anything with them nor can I search to find a specific email. What I need to be able to do is transfer emails as an .eml from C drive to E drive so that they can be opened on E drive as email and manipulated as email. As archived emails on E drive, most often I would reference them, read them and maybe send them as attachments. Once I have the actual email on E drive then I can delete it from C drive, thus freeing up needed space on the C drive. Does this make it clearer?

Thanks and regards,

Graham

 

Access the Mail in the Archive folder on E: from the Mail & Newsgroups Accounts on C:. Open Mail & Newsgroups on the C: drive, click on the Archive Folder Inbox, and then you should be able to view the archived mail on E:.

Ramona

 

Finally !!!!

Hi Ramona

this last email from you did it. Guess what? It works. To get it straight in my head I disconnected the E drive then went to the Archive account that shows up in the hierarcy on the left in Mail and Newsgroups (on C drive). I clicked on a sub folder and there was nothing in it. When I reconnected the E drive and clicked on it again, there they are. So, Whereas you are accessing the email in a given archive folder from the C drive, the documents have actually been moved and are resident on E drive. The confusion was that I thought the mail folders that I could visually see in the NS7.1 program under "archive" were actually on C drive because I'm using C drive to run the program.

This means I can move them out of my account on C drive to the archive account and they are actually moved to E drive. What a great world!

Thanks again.

Graham