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Suggestions on what you can do to secure/clean your PC Part# 2

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  1. 2004/06/20
    Sn00ker

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    Reposted with permission of Shenan Stanley with the following disclaimer

    ANTIVIRUS SOFTWARE
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    That's not all. That's one facet of a secure PC, but firewalls don't do everything. I saw one idiot posting on a newsgroup that "they had never had a virus and they never run any anti-virus software. Yep - I used to believe that way too - viruses were something everyone else seemed to get, were they just stupid? And for the average joe-user who is careful, uses their one-three family computers carefully, never opening unknown attachments, always visiting the same family safe web sites, never installing anything that did not come with their computer - maybe, just maybe they will never witness a virus. I see that AntiVirus software is an absolute necessity. You can be as careful as you want - will the next person be as careful? Will someone send you unknowingly the email that erases all the pictures of your child/childhood? Possibly - why take the chance? ALWAYS RUN ANTIVIRUS SOFTWARE and KEEP IT UP TO DATE! Antivirus software comes in so many flavors, it's like walking into a Jelly Belly store - which one tastes like what?! Well, here are a few choices for you. Some of these are free (isn't that nice?) and some are not. Is one better than the other - MAYBE. I personally love Symantec AV.

    Symantec (Norton) AntiVirus (~$11 and up)
    http://www.symantec.com/

    Kaspersky Anti-Virus (~$49.95 and up)
    http://www.kaspersky.com/products.html

    Panda Antivirus Titanium (~$39.95 and up)
    http://www.pandasoftware.com/
    (Free Online Scanner: http://www.pandasoftware.com/activescan/)

    AVG 6.0 Anti-Virus System (Free and up)
    http://www.grisoft.com/

    McAfee VirusScan (~$11 and up)
    http://www.mcafee.com/

    AntiVir (Free and up)
    http://www.free-av.com/

    avast! 4 (Free and up)
    http://www.avast.com/

    Trend Micro (~$49.95 and up)
    http://www.trendmicro.com/
    (Free Online Scanner:
    http://housecall.trendmicro.com/hou.../start_corp.asp)

    Did I mention you have to not only install this software, but also keep it updated? You do. Some of them (most) have automatic services to help you do this - I mean, it's not your job to keep up with the half-dozen or more new threats that come out daily, is it? Be sure to keep whichever one you choose up to date!


    SPYWARE/ADWARE/POPUPS
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    So you must be thinking that the above two things got your back now - you are covered, safe and secure in your little fox hole. Wrong! There are more bad guys out there. There are annoyances out there you can get without trying. Your normal web surfing, maybe a wrong click on a web page, maybe just a momentary lack of judgment by installing some software packages without doing the research.. And all of a sudden your screen starts filling up with advertisements or your Internet seems much slower or your home page won't stay what you set it and goes someplace unfamiliar to you. This is spyware. There are a whole SLEW of software packages out there to get rid of this crud and help prevent reinfection. Some of the products already mentioned might even have branched out into this arena. However, there are a few applications that seem to be the best at what they do, which is eradicating and immunizing your system from this cr@p. Strangely, the best products I have found in this category ARE generally free. That is a trend I like. I make donations to some of them, they deserve it!

    Spybot Search and Destroy (Free!)
    http://www.safer-networking.net/

    Lavasoft AdAware (Free and up)
    http://www.lavasoft.de

    CWSShredder (Free!)
    http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html

    Hijack This! (Free)
    http://mjc1.com/mirror/hjt/

    SpywareBlaster (Free!)
    http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/

    ToolbarCop (Free!)
    http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/toolbarcop.htm

    Bazooka Adware and Spyware Scanner (Free!)
    http://kephyr.sureshot.xaviermedia.net/spywarescanner/

    Browser Security Tests
    http://www.jasons-toolbox.com/BrowserSecurity/

    The Cleaner (49.95 and up)
    http://www.moosoft.com/

    That will clean up your machine of the spyware, given that you download and install several of them, update them regularly and scan with them when you update. Some (like SpywareBlaster and SpyBot Search and Destroy) have immunization features that will help you prevent your PC from being infected. Use these features!

    Unfortunately, although that will lessen your popups on the Internet/while you are online, it won't eliminate them. I have looked at a lot of options, seen a lot of them used in production with people who seem to attract popups like a plague, and I only have one suggestion that end up serving double duty (search engine and popup stopper in one):

    The Google Toolbar (Free!)
    http://toolbar.google.com/

    Yeah - it adds a bar to your Internet Explorer - but its a useful one. You can search from there anytime with one of the best search engines on the planet (IMO.) And the fact it stops most popups - wow - BONUS! If you don't like that suggestion, then I am just going to say you go to www.google.com and search for other options.

    One more suggestion, although I will suggest this in a way later, is to disable your Windows Messenger service. This service is not used frequently (if at all) by the normal home user and in cooperation with a good firewall, is generally unnecessary. Microsoft has instructions on how to do this for Windows XP here:

    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/...te/stopspam.asp


    SPAM EMAIL/JUNK MAIL
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    This one can get annoying, just like the rest. You get 50 emails in one sitting and 2 of them you wanted. NICE! (Not.) What can you do? Well, although there are services out there to help you, some email servers/services that actually do lower your spam with features built into their servers - I still like the methods that let you be the end-decision maker on what is spam and what isn't. If these things worked perfectly, we wouldn't need people and then there would be no spam anyway - vicious circle, eh? Anyway - I have two products to suggest to you, look at them and see if either of them suite your needs. Again, if they don't, Google is free and available for your perusal.

    SpamBayes (Free!)
    http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/

    Spamihilator (Free!)
    http://www.spamihilator.com/

    Hope it helps.
    Thanks goes to Shenan Stanley
     
  2. 2004/06/20
    Sn00ker

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    Suggestions on what you can do to secure/clean your PC Part# 1

    Reposted with permission of Shenan Stanley with the following disclaimer:
    Originally posted on Microsoft Newsgroups Windows XP Security forum.

    Suggestions on what you can do to secure/clean your PC. I'm going to try and be general, I will assume a "Windows" operating system is what is being secured here.


    UPDATES and PATCHES
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    This one is the most obvious. There is no perfect product and any company worth their salt will try to meet/exceed the needs of their customers and fix any problems they find along the way. I am not going to say Microsoft is the best company in the world about this but they do have an option available for you to use to keep your machine updated and patched from the problems and vulnerabilities (as well as product improvements in some cases) - and it's free to you.

    Windows Update
    http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/

    Go there and scan your machine for updates. Always get the critical ones as you see them. Write down the KB###### or Q###### you see when selecting the updates and if you have trouble over the next few days, go into your control panel (Add/Remove Programs), match up the latest numbers you downloaded recently (since you started noticing an issue) and uninstall them. If there was more than one (usually is), install them back one by one - with a few hours of use in between, to see if the problem returns. Yes - the process is not perfect (updating) and can cause trouble like I mentioned - but as you can see, the solution isn't that bad - and is MUCH better than the alternatives. (SASSER/BLASTER were SO preventable with just this step!)

    Windows is not the only product you likely have on your PC. The manufacturers of the other products usually have updates as well. New versions of almost everything come out all the time - some are free, some are pay - some you can only download if you are registered - but it is best to check. Just go to their web pages and look under their support and download sections.

    You also have hardware on your machine that requires drivers to interface with the operating system. You have a video card that allows you to see on your screen, a sound card that allows you to hear your PCs sound output and so on. Visit those manufacturer web sites for the latest downloadable drivers for your hardware/operating system. Always (IMO) get the manufacturers hardware driver over any Microsoft offers. On the Windows Update site I mentioned earlier, I suggest NOT getting their hardware drivers - no matter how tempting.

    Have I mentioned that Microsoft has some stuff to help secure your computer available to the end-user for free? This seems as good of a time as any. They have a CD you can order (it's free) that contain all of the Windows patches through October 2003 and some trial products as well that they released in February 2004. Yeah - it's a little behind now, but it's better than nothing (and used in coordination with the information in this post, well worth the purchase price..)

    Order the Windows Security Update CD
    http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/cd/order.asp

    They also have a bunch of suggestions, some similar to these, on how to better protect your Windows system:

    Protect your PC
    http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/


    FIREWALL
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    Let's say you are up-to-date on the OS (operating system) and you have Windows XP.. You should at least turn on the built in firewall. That will do a lot to "hide" you from the random bad things flying around the Internet. Things like Sasser/Blaster enjoy just sitting out there in Cyberspace looking for an unprotected Windows Operating System and jumping on it, doing great damage in the process and then using that Unprotected OS to continue its dirty work of infecting others. If you have the Windows XP ICF turned on - default configuration - then they cannot see you! Think of it as Internet Stealth Mode at this point. It has other advantages, like actually locking the doors you didn't even (likely) know you had. Doing this is simple, the instructions you need to use your built in Windows XP firewall can be found here:
    http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=320855

    If you read through that and look through the pages that are linked from it at the bottom of that page - I think you should have a firm grasp on the basics of the Windows XP Firewall as it is today.

    But let's say you DON'T have Windows XP - you have some other OS like Windows 95, 98, 98SE, ME, NT, 2000. Well, you don't have the nifty built in firewall. My suggestion - upgrade. My next suggestion - look through your options. There are lots of free and pay firewalls out there for home users. Yes - you will have to decide on your own which to get. Yes, you will have to learn (oh no!) to use these firewalls and configure them so they don't interfere with what you want to do while continuing to provide the security you desire. It's just like anything else you want to protect - you have to do something to protect it. Here are some suggested applications. A lot of people tout "ZoneAlarm" as being the best alternative to just using the Windows XP ICF, but truthfully - any of these alternatives are much better than the Windows XP ICF at what they do - because that is ALL they do.

    ZoneAlarm (Free and up)
    http://www.zonelabs.com/store/conte...reeDownload.jsp

    Kerio Personal Firewall (KPF) (Free and up)
    http://www.kerio.com/kpf_download.html

    Outpost Firewall from Agnitum (Free and up)
    http://www.agnitum.com/download/

    Sygate Personal Firewall (Free and up)
    http://smb.sygate.com/buy/download_buy.htm

    Symantec's Norton Personal Firewall (~$25 and up)
    http://www.symantec.com/sabu/nis/npf/

    BlackICE PC Protection ($39.95 and up)
    http://blackice.iss.net/

    Tiny Personal Firewall (~$49.00 and up)
    http://www.tinysoftware.com/

    That list is not complete, but they are good firewall options, every one of them. Visit the web pages, read up, ask around if you like - make a decision and go with some firewall, any firewall. Also, maintain it. Sometimes new holes are discovered in even the best of these products and patches are released from the company to remedy this problem. However, if you don't get the patches (check the manufacturer web page on occasion), then you may never know you have the problem and/or are being used through this weakness. Also, don't stack these things. Running more than one firewall will not make you safer - it would likely (in fact) negate some protection you gleamed from one or the other firewalls you ran together.
     

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    Also, don't stack these things. Running more than one firewall will not make you safer - it would likely (in fact) negate some protection you gleamed from one or the other firewalls you ran together.

    I'd love to know where he arrived at the above conclusions. The blue part is true in many situations but certainly not all. For instance, running software and hardware firewalls makes it more likely that you will always have a firewall running since the software ones can be clobbered by a virus and the hardware ones usually cannot.

    And I am totally lost about the justification for the piece in dark red. I would agree that running multiple AV apps is a horrible idea. I would agree that running multiple firewalls can complicate setup somewhat but I can't think of any way that one would firewall would negate the other.

    Also sorta curious about why you keep posting long quotes from other sites to start a thread. It sometimes makes sense to cite a link and post snippets in response to a question or problem but a few hundred quoted lines when you could have simply said that folks might want to check the original contents if they are interested in whatever would seem more reasonable.
     
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