1. You are viewing our forum as a guest. For full access please Register. WindowsBBS.com is completely free, paid for by advertisers and donations.

problems with firewall settings

Discussion in 'Networking (Hardware & Software)' started by Shnookface, 2004/05/14.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. 2004/05/14
    Shnookface

    Shnookface Inactive Thread Starter

    Joined:
    2003/11/01
    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    0
    Hello,

    I have a Billion ADSL Firewall Router/switch that I use to connect to the internet, and I am having much trouble configuring it right. :( I have been to google, technet, and Billion's support site to look for answers on how to configure it to my personal preference, and these don't really offer alot of answers to the questions I'm asking myself. Like for instance, If I use outlook express, and want to be able to check my email and send emails, I need to open the ports 25, and 110 right? Now they never mention what to set for incoming and outcoming traffic on these ports, they just say you need to open them. Anyway there are lots of holes like this, and it is proving to be very frustrating configuring this firewall. I am wondering whether you can help me by telling me the ports and protocols that these internet applications use, together with whether the incoming traffic needs to be blocked or allowed by the firewall. :) ok here are my current port settings:

    My firewall port settings

    Here is some good info I want to use in my firewall config:

    http - TCP Port 80 out
    https - TCP Port 443 out
    FTP - TCP Port 20,21 out
    Telnet - TCP Port 23 out
    SSH - TCP Port 22 out
    DNS - UDP Port 53 out
    DNS - TCP Port 53 out

    MSN Messager
    TCP 1863 out​

    Voice
    TCP 6901 out
    UDP 6901 in/out​

    File Transfers
    TCP 6891-6900 in/out​

    Although msn messenger doesn't work with these setting for some reason.

    These are basically the applications I'm trying to get working through the firewall:

    MSN Messenger (complete with file sharing, chat and voice)
    ICQ (all features)
    Kazaa Lite (1214 right?)
    Outlook Express (ports 25, 110 right?)
    Internet Explorer (I presume its port 80)
    MIRC (for chat and downloading files)
    Windows Media player (for downloading codecs and watching streaming video)
    Quicktime (watching streaming video)
    Windows Time
    ICMP

    If you can help me with any of this I would be very grateful :D

    Thanks,

    Simon.
     
    Last edited: 2004/05/14
  2. 2004/05/14
    Newt

    Newt Inactive

    Joined:
    2002/01/07
    Messages:
    10,974
    Likes Received:
    2
    Email
    POP = inbound mail = 109 (TCP) for version 2 (older stuff), 110 (TCP)for version 3 (POP3) that you are probably using
    SMTP = outbound mail = Ports: 25 (TCP), 366 (TCP) ODMR (On-Demand Mail Relay) if you use it - most don't.

    MSN Messenger Service Cannot Perform File Transfers or Make Voice Connections Through NAT if you run version 3 and Windows Messenger in Windows XP: Working With Firewalls and Network Address Translation Devices for version XP (version 4 I think)

    I've gotten a little confused though. Other than MSN Messenger, are any others not working for you?

    If you run XP, the firewall with SP2 (to be released sometime fairly soon) lets you put in the app and it figures out the ports. Should make for easier configuration for lots of folks.
     
    Newt,
    #2

  3. to hide this advert.

  4. 2004/05/15
    Shnookface

    Shnookface Inactive Thread Starter

    Joined:
    2003/11/01
    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    0
    :) Cool I think I got MSN messenger working through the firewall now, cause I could sign in and out fine. The thing was that I had to open the other ports 1st. You see orginally I only opened the ports for MSN, and none of the others. Maybe MSN needed port 53 or 80 for example. I'm not sure, but that seems to be working though. I got kazaa working alright, although it takes a tad longer to get connected.

    Can you please explain which ports I have to open for email again, along with the protocol and which incoming/outgoing i block/allow?

    Thanks.
     
  5. 2004/05/15
    Newt

    Newt Inactive

    Joined:
    2002/01/07
    Messages:
    10,974
    Likes Received:
    2
    'Normal' email needs TCP port 110 open for in bound and port 25 for outbound.
     
    Newt,
    #4
  6. 2004/05/15
    Shnookface

    Shnookface Inactive Thread Starter

    Joined:
    2003/11/01
    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ok opening ports 110 and 25 didn't do the trick for outlook. Maybe it would be a good idea if I tell you some info on my computer's o/s and outlook version. Ok I have Windows XP Professional updated to the latest service packs and updates. My version of Outlook Express, is version 6.00.2800.1123 (version 6). My ISP is iinet. Their website is www.iinet.net.au . Sorry, I should of mentioned my specs b4 - But I was in a rush when I posted the last post.

    I have had a look at this website for the ports to open:

    http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/app_port_list.htm

    MIRC doesn't seem to work either if I open the following ports:

    :confused:

    for DCC & Ident:
    IN TCP 1024 - 5000
    mIRC Chat:
    IN TCP 6660 - 6669

    What do you suggest?
     
  7. 2004/05/15
    Newt

    Newt Inactive

    Joined:
    2002/01/07
    Messages:
    10,974
    Likes Received:
    2
    Take a look at your account details in OE. It is possible that your AV program has modified the ports to be used so that all mail feeds thru the AV app. If so, you will need to also open the ports listed there.
     
    Newt,
    #6
  8. 2004/05/15
    TonyT

    TonyT SuperGeek Staff

    Joined:
    2002/01/18
    Messages:
    9,072
    Likes Received:
    400
    This is true IF the computerbehind the router is a mail server but it is entirely false IF the computer behind the router is a client. Clients do not use those ports, only the servers use them.

    The mail client will use the first available unassigned tcp port on the machime to SEND a request to the pop mail server's port 110 when checking for new messages. The client will do the same when sending messages, it connects to the smtp server's port 25.

    When configuring the mail client you are "telling the client which SERVER ports to make a connection to ". You are not configuring your computer's ports at all.

    The router has no real effect on email sending or receiving unless (1) router firewall blocks the mail server connections (outbound). Some routers have an MTU setting. Withe such routers it may be necessary when using Outlook or Oyutlook Express to set the MTU at a specific number rather than set to "auto ". Check the router manufacturer's site or isp site for specific email instructions.
     
    Last edited: 2004/05/16
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.