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  1. 2004/04/23
    screamer

    screamer Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    I have tried saving an ISO DVD file, and I get a message saying 4 gbyte is the limit unless I have NTFS. Am loathe to convert from Fat 32, is there an alternative? :confused:
     
  2. 2004/04/23
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    What software are you using?
     

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  4. 2004/04/23
    Zander

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    Unless somebody else can come up with something I've never heard of I think you're stuck. With FAT32 the maximum file size is 4gb. It's a limitation of the file system. For a lot of people it's not a problem but for those that want to burn dvd's NTFS is the way to go. Sorry.
     
  5. 2004/04/23
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    NTFS works fine. Why are you hesitant to convert?

    There were problems with the convert utility in NT4. 2K had a better one with rarely a problem and so far, I've never heard of any issues with the utility in XP.
     
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    screamer

    screamer Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Thank you all for your input, and seemingly my only option is to bite the bullet and convert to NTFS :eek: if I want to retrieve this file.

    My reason and trepidation in staying with Fat 32, was because of a guru who helped me set up the system saying steer clear of NTFS, and a friend who converted and had lots of problems with it.

    Next question........I have a ghost image of my system on a separate drive. Will I still be able to use this to restore the system if I convert to NTFS, and secondly what is the best way to do this.

    As you may note, my user title is apt. :D
     
  7. 2004/04/24
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    Newt.

    What about making an ntfs partition just for storage? (leaving the OS alone)
     
  8. 2004/04/24
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    screamer Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Oooh..........I like the sound of this idea sparrow. :)

    I have Partition Magic, will this convert it for me?

    Have lots of space on my C Drive (80 gbyte drive with over 60 gbyte free)

    Or would it be better to move all my files on the slave drive to my C drive, and convert the entire slave drive to NTFS? Then move them back.

    If the latter is a better option, then back to my last post of how to do it.
     
  9. 2004/04/24
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    screamer Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Instead of asking you helpful techies silly simple questions, I have now done what I should have done earlier and done a google on how to convert Fat32 to NTFS, and I now see there is a dos command in XP to do this.

    Unless I read to the contrary here in the next couple of days, I will now take the plunge and convert my slave drive to NTFS.

    Ta once again all for your help. :)
     
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    You could have just went to XP's help section in the index under convert. :)
     
  11. 2004/04/24
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    What about making an ntfs partition just for storage? (leaving the OS alone)

    Interesting question sparrow. I'm not really sure if that would mean you could put larger files on the storage partition or not. Hmmmm.

    screamer - the main thing you will probably notice after you do the convert is that you don't notice anything. :) You will probably have more available space on the drive and you will certainly have more security options but in general, there is just nothing to make you even think about which file system you have.
     
  12. 2004/04/24
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    screamer Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    noahdfear That's why you are Supergeek, and I will probably stay Super Numpty. :)

    Newt Your comments cause me to ooze confidence in the conversion.
     
  13. 2004/04/24
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    screamer,

    "I have Partition Magic, will this convert it for me? "

    I think it will make a partition all right, and you can format it anyway you like.

    Anyway, it won't hurt to try, and you can let us know if you're successful.
     
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    screamer,
    PartitionMagic can create a new partition formatted NTFS and it can also convert an existing FAT partition to NTFS. Windows can also do the conversion. Although you may receive a warning about possible data loss, I have performed the conversion several times without incident. A backup of your data before performing this operation is highly recommended. If your not running a multiboot system with an OS that needs FAT32, convert to NTFS. IMHO its a more efficient file system and offers a wide variety of security options.

    B :cool:
     
  15. 2004/04/25
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    Tis done...........Phew.

    Transfered all my files on the slave to C: Converted the slave to NTFS, moved the files back, and now have my DVD ISO file.

    Thanks all again for your help, and for giving me the confidence to attempt it. :)
     
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    That's just a title given by this board because of the number of posts.
    I doubt that. :)

    I pointed that out because I thought that the information there would be helpful and add reassurance for you in doing the deed. But I also mentioned it as a reminder that many of our questions can be answered from the extensive help section that XP has. I am even guilty of spending considerable amounts of time searching the web, chasing links and dead ends, and asking questions, only to find my answers were right there in help the whole time. Glad to see you took the plunge, properly backed up your data, and that it was successful. You might notice that if you go to properties on the local disk there is now a check box for indexing. I recommend unchecking it. It allows the built in search feature to find things faster but in all slows things down in normal operation. A much faster search utility is Agent Ransack. :)
     
  17. 2004/04/25
    screamer

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    The thought of partitioning the drive really interested me sparrow, and after my success with converting my slave drive to NTFS with no problems, I decided to be adventurous. :eek:

    Have another system running 2K also on FAT32, and as I had a Ghost image of it, I decided to give the idea of using PM8 to partition it a whirl.

    It did this with no problems, and it automaticaly converted it to NTFS, then to prove it was OK I copied the DVD ISO on to it.

    Glowing with satisfaction, I then ran my Ghost image and the drive is now back to one and on FAT32. :)

    Thank you also for your advise noahdfear on unticking the indexing box, have now done this, but as I don't do any searching have not downloaded your helpful link, but it is now in my favourites for future reference.
     
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    screamer,

    Thanks for the update. I was pretty sure it would work. In fact I was thinking about doing it myself to see.
     
  19. 2004/04/26
    Christer

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    Hi screamer,

    Restoring a Ghost Image will bring back everything to the state it was when the Image was created, including the file system.

    As I understand it, Your harddisk is in one single partition with system, applications and data mixed. Restoring the Image will not only do good but will also make You loose all data gathered since the Image was created. So, before restoring, You´ll need to backup the data elsewhere, or loose parts of it.

    Ghost restores the file system too. If You convert from FAT32 to NTFS and restore the Image which was created when FAT32 was used, the harddrive will be restored to FAT32.

    I´ve heard/read about people having trouble with Ghost after using Partition Magic. It seems like the two don´t agree on how partitions should be set up. I have no first hand experience of PM so, this is second hand information.
    In Your case, I would have copied the contents of the second harddisk to the first and then used XP disk management to format the second harddisk to NTFS, thus avoiding the use of PM and not getting a converted volume.

    Well, this is all in theory now, since the deed is done.

    Christer
     
  20. 2004/04/28
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    Christer wrote:
    "I�ve heard/read about people having trouble with Ghost after using Partition Magic. "​
    That's interesting, because I used to have problems with PartitionMagic after running Symantec's Norton Utilities SpeedDisk ... somehow, it messed up the partition table.

    Symantec acquired Powerquest, producer of PartitionMagic and Drive Image, in December 2003. It will be interesting to see if they get the SpeedDisk/PartitionMagic and PartitionMagic/Ghost problems resolved, and whether they will continue to produce both Ghost and and Drive Image.
     
  21. 2004/04/28
    Christer

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    Well, if they decide to "merge" the applications too, then I´ll stick to using my old trusted Ghost 2003 as long as possible.

    I am an avid Norton fan but I have ceased using Speed Disk since it has a different opinion of what is the optimum compared to the native XP defrag utility which runs in the background. I found out that they fight eachother, not even agreeing on fragmentation levels. As soon as Speed Disk has completed ...... :( ...... XP starts moving it back.

    Christer
     
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