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No video card recognition!

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by geiger, 2004/03/23.

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  1. 2004/03/23
    geiger

    geiger Inactive Thread Starter

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    I am running an older pIII 800 on a Creative Soundblaster PC. The Motherboard is made by creative, model M003. I have a AGP sis 315 graphics card. I have installed XP recently and since then, xp's Device Manager does not even list a Display adapter. SIS's installer cannot find the card. I have also tried an old 4mb NVIDA video card but also no recognition.

    Also, under the display properties............. advanved, all info is unavailable, yet it says the driver "VgaSave" is installed and working properly.

    I believe my problems are in the creative M003 drivers, as the original disk will not let me install on xp and I cannot find any updates.

    Any help, assistance or directions where I might be able to further find a solution is greatly appreciated.
     
  2. 2004/03/23
    PeteC

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    Hi geiger - Welcome to the Board :)

    A Google search for M003 brings up a couple of hits at least - haven't read them through, but they may help.
     

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  4. 2004/03/23
    geiger

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    PeteC - Thanks, have been there and elsewhere looking before I ended up here. I still have a properly working win2K setup for this system on my other HDI have also noticed I do not have a system device that should be "Intel 82443BX Pentium(r)II processor to AGP bridge "

    Is this a generic driver that I can manually install?

    Thanks again
     
  5. 2004/03/24
    PeteC

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    This is uaually a problem of drivers for PCI, AGP, etc. In other words, missing motherboard drivers.

    I see no models M003 listed at the Creative site, and no motherboards at all are listed in their currently supported products.

    See what Aida32 sees as your motherboard name and chipset:

    http://www.aida32.hu/aida32-download.php
     
  7. 2004/03/24
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    Petec- Thanks again, but doesn't look like what i want, a Toshiba and HP drivers there.

    Abraxas - Hey, aida32 sees my mother board as Shuttle HOT-681/681Z/685/685Z/687/687Z, chipset as Intel 82440BX/ZX , and states my AGP is disabled.

    Shuttles websight seems to only want one set of numbers eg "681" not the whole string 681/681Z/685/685Z/687/687Z that aida32 gives. Could it be that my mobo is ONE of these numbers?
     
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    PeteC

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    A rather obvious question I guess, but have you checked in the BIOS for the AGP state - enabled/disabled?

    Your mobo would appear to be of the 681 series.

    Edit - ignore my first comment - without the driver the AGP slot is clearly inactive!
     
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    Yes, it is definitely one of those, but that makes little difference since they all have the same chipset.

    You'll find the chipset driver on this page:

    http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scr...SFullName=Windows*+XP+Home+Edition&submit=Go!
    (This sends you to the Home Edition page, but it is the same file for Pro.)

    Infinst.exe, 1428 kb, v. 5.1.1002.

    Includes:
    - Core PCI and ISAPNP Services
    - AGP Support
    - IDE/ATA33/ATA66/ATA100 Storage Support
    - SATA Storage Support
    - USB Support
    - Identification of Intel(R) chipset components in
    the Device Manager
     
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    geiger

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    PeteC - Yes AGP is enabled in bios, when booted to win2k all is good:) .

    Abraxas - Thanks for the link, I had been there previously and tried to install with the same results as this time........ The installer simply terminates while stating that my OS fully supports this chipset. I even tried using the -OVER ALL option to force the installer to update regardless, but to no avail.

    to clarify, do I have intels 440 or 820 series chipset? I was thinking 440 but your link goes to 820 search.
     
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    PeteC

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    I never determined that. All the links to mb drivers went to the same Infinst file, so 820 was just where I happened to stop checking that all the chipsets lead to the same file.

    The problem seems to be that your machine was never sold with XP installed so that many XP drivers are not available from the manufacturer. But they are probably out there somewhere from manufacturers that provided drivers for upgrades. We just need to identify the chipsets.

    Intel® Chipset Identification Utility
     
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    Do you mean installing Win2k on that machine and then upgrading to XP? Why not just install XP?

    That BMIDE, I'd guess without looking, is a hard disk controller.

    So, it's a 440. That will give us some help.

    http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scr...SFullName=Windows*+XP+Professional&submit=Go!
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    So, no Display Adapters listed at all in Device manager now? I'm trying to figure out a way of installing the VGA Compatible driver (display.inf) to see if that can find the video. But it is too involved at this point.

    Where did you get the SiS 315 XP driver? Here is another one:

    http://www.pcchipsusa.com/vga/sis315_xp.ZIP

    And here is the SiS onboard AGP driver:

    http://www.pcchipsusa.com/agp/sisagp.zip
     
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    geiger

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    Abraxas - I have both OS installed on separate HD in this comp right now. win2k runs fine, XP is slowly getting there. Thought maybe an upgrade would preserve driver and config data so the xp install will work.

    Alright... some progress at least! I re-installed xp and had the setup freeze on copying agp440.sys (pretty sure this is my driver! 82443bx to AGP in the system devices) After cleaning the disk, it installed fully without error(almost). Now I have resolution capabilities, Display adapters is shown and lists my SIS315 as it should.

    But on startup, windows finds new hardware in PCI to PCI bus, seems to install drivers then finds more new hardware as Intel 82443BX Pentium(r)II processor to AGP but halts on installation stating the data is invalid. Could this simply be a crappy xp install disk? would this invalid data be the agp440.sys file?

    I went back to PeteC's 2nd post to find my driver but these seem specific to their systems (HP, Pavilion, Toshiba) and cant seem to find it.

    Thanks again for your time guys.
     
  16. 2004/03/26
    geiger

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    Well, last night I downloaded a fresh XP pro, burnt and re-installed this morning and all is great! Just some corrupt data on my xp disk! My 2 year old daughter throwing cds throughout the livingroom probly doesn't help much.
    A good learning experience for me and an introduction to a helpfull forum.
     
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    Delighted to hear you got it sorted - thanks for posting back.

    Better wean your daughter onto AOL disks :D
     
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