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Memory Problems?

Discussion in 'PC Hardware' started by gobears20, 2004/02/03.

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    gobears20

    gobears20 Inactive Thread Starter

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    I am running Windows XP. I have a gig of ram in my computer. I got two more 512MB strips. I put the RAM in and when the computer boots, it recognizes it, but then starts re-booting over and over. I took one out and it worked. IS there anything I have to do in the BIOS or anything like that for it to work? Before it re-boots, it goes to this blue screen and it has something written, but it goes through that so fast, you can't read it.

    Any ideas?
     
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    Steve R Jones

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    Tell us more about your system AND is the new ram the same specs as the original...
     

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    Christer

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    I haven´t got a clue towards why it doesn´t work but I think I know how to prevent it auto-restarting:

    When it gets started OK, Right-click the My computer icon > Properties > Advanced > "Start and Reset" > Settings and uncheck the box for automatic restart.

    Now You should have to do a manual restart from the BSOD ...... :cool: ...... after You have read it.

    Christer
     
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    gobears20

    gobears20 Inactive Thread Starter

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    My system is a P4, 3.0 Ghz.

    The RAM is different from the original. After the problem, I took one of the chips out. It actually booted ok and I got to my desktop and it showed that it had 1.5GB of ram. I then put in the other chip and it started messing up again. What is weird is that it looks like everything is going to work. I start my computer with all the ram chips in and it reads that it has 2 something gigs of ram. After that it flashes some blue screen and starts re-booting.

    I saw that I could disable the automatic reboot. Do you think I should do that?

    What makes me mad is I bought this computer from Zuke.com. I made the order out as 2gigs of ram. Well, they only put a gig in and I called them up and they shipped my ram with no charge. Well, I get it and it is a different brand.
     
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    An Update...

    I disabled the automatic re-boot feature. I put one of the ram chips in. It booted and I am now here. It has that the computer has 1.5gigs of ram. Now to try the second chip. Pray for me ;)
     
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    OK, I disables that automatic re-boot. I put the other 512mb chip in, so that gave me 2gigs. I restarted and it recognized it saying I had two something gigs.

    I got to the blue screen and I was able to read it. Here is what it said....


    A problem has been detected and widows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer.

    If this is the first time you've seen this stop error screen, restart your computer. If this screen appears again, follow these steps.

    Check to make sure any new hardware or software is properly installed. If this is a new installation, ask your hardware or software manufacturer for any windows updates you might need.

    If problems continue,disable or remove any newly installed hardware or software.

    Disable BIOS memory options such as caching or shadowing.

    If you need to use safe mode to remove or disable components, restart your computer, press F8 to select advanced startup option, and then select safe mode.

    Technical Information:

    ***STOP: 0X00000050 (0x8B00FF65,0X00000001, 0x805C4757, 0x00000000)


    Right now I have one 512mb strip in, so I have 1.5 Gigs. Just can't figure out why the other one won't work.
     
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    Steve R Jones

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    Need to find out how close the chips are, spec wise. Are they all non ecc? Are they all pc2700? etc etc

    Have you tried just the two news ones by themselves:confused:
     
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    gobears20

    This is called a round peg in a square hole or is that a square peg in a round hole? Regardless, its the wrong peg. Your motherboard won't support 2 gigs of memory. The very first page on the Epox site for your motherboard states that 1.5 ghz is the max supported.

    Congratulations - its time to read the manual.

    ;)
     
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    Rockster2U

    Unless I am mistaken it is Christer who has the Epox board, not gobears20?

    You could still be right though.
     
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    Pete - you are so correct. Rockster will now open mouth and insert foot.

    So, gobears - whats your MB?

    ;)
     
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    If it's a 3.0 P4 I would assume it's a 800 Mhz FSB With HT (Hyper Threading) which means the RAM runs in Dual Channel.


    If I was a betting man I would say it will require (2) 1 gig sticks instead of (4) 512 sticks.

    We need the Motherboard and the specs on the RAM chips. (All Four of them.


    Now if it's a 3.06 P4 (533 FSB) all bets are off :)
     
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    gobears20

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    Here is the computer I got and it has all the info..

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2783830090&category=52476

    So it has to be all the same memory?

    See I have one of the chips that I got yesterday in there and it is different from the other two chips. It gave me a total of 1.5gig of ram. Its just when I put the other chip in is when it gives me that error.

    It seems like I should be able to run this system with 2gigs of ram?
     
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    Today, I actually discussed dual channel memory technology with a teccie guy where I bought my BOAC.

    He told me that the four memory slots on the mother board are in two pairs, slightly off-set from eachother. They are colour marked with one black and one blue (or whichever colour) in each pair.

    If using two modules they should preferrably be not only identical but matched for performance and they are sold in pairs.
    They should be fitted, one in each pair of memory slots in the slot with the same colour marking.
    (I almost understood that myself ...... :) ......)

    If another pair of memory modules are added, they should of course go in the memory slots with the other colour marking.
    The second pair of modules should preferrably be of the same type and make, he emphasized that since otherwise there might be compatibility problems.

    And yes, it can handle 2 GB, four pairs of 512MB.

    Christer
    (who has been shopping for a friend)
     
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    Rockster2U

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    Didn't spend a lot of time looking at Elite (ECS) website for your MB, but didn't find it either. Picture on your Zuke EBay link is wrong because there are only 3 memory slots shown, however thats all irrelevent - we all know now that you have a dual channel MB with 4 slots and Christer got some good advice re: matched modules. Careful on the color coding references however, because not all MB's are created equally. I've not done an ECS dual channel so can't speak to that, but have done DFI, Abit and GigaByte dual channel boards. The thing to remember is one matched module on each of two different channels or, as in your quest for 2gigs, two matched modules on each of two different channels. Single Pair would be #1 & #3, second pair would go in #2 & #4.

    From the Zuke ad referencing #1 memory maker in the world, it sounds like you have Samsung - careful, not all Samsung is created equally either. Don't read me wrong, its very good memory, but comes in several different types - even within any given size and speed range. Personally, I've stuck with Corsair XMS or OCZ matched pairs for the Nvidia boards I've done. As an aside, and I would not recommend it, you can probably change your MB settings (in BIOS) to read as regular vs dual channel and may be able to use the mismatched memory.

    If Zuke is good, send them all four of your sticks and ask them to return 4 pieces of identical memory which has been tested for dual channel boards.

    ;)
     
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    Filippo

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    Memories may fail in many, many ways !!!!!

    Read up the "theory" explanation of the memtest86 memory checker:

    http://www.memtest86.com/

    This application performs 11 (eleven) different tests, looking for things such as leaks from a cell to the adjacent one.

    It could well be that the quick POST BIOS-test on your PC says the sticks are fine, but something else is amiss.
     
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