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Opening OE with new window

Discussion in 'Internet Explorer & Microsoft Edge' started by Jim78418, 2004/01/28.

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    Newt

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    Dang. Brain sludge.

    Thanks Zander. I certainly did not have the Open In New Window key added. Do now and Command set as specified.

    Something has changed since I did get a new window from a link. But then the next 5 link clicks reused the same window. Gonna have to play around some I think.
     
  2. 2004/01/30
    Zander

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    Don't feel bad Newt. I goofed at first too. As to the links opening reusing the new window, each shortcut I click on opens in a new window so something must not be quite right. Are you right clicking and choosing the new window item in the context menu and they still reuse the window?
    Here's one for ya. I don't remember this happening yesterday when I tried it, but when I right click on a favorite and choose open in a new window.... it always opens in a maximized window. This isn't a normal window resized to fill the screen, it a true maximized window. In IE?? Where'd that come from. Something I've never been able to truely accomplish, nor have I ever found a way to do it without some type of additional software. I immediately thought of all the posts you from people wanting there's to work that way. Evidently it's possible, but unfortunatly, I still have no idea how it's done. :rolleyes: Evidently it must be possible though. After all, mines doing it right now. I have also noticed in the past week in emails I recieve, any link I click on in them open maximized too. Odd... Right clicking on a link on any webpage and choosing open in a new window still opens the page in a normal window.
     
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  4. 2004/01/31
    Welshjim

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    Zander/Newt--Sorry to hear all the trouble, though that maximized window thing
    1) sounds like a real innovation. Hope you find out what is causing it!
    2) depending on timing, may not have had anything to do with the Open in New Window Registry tweak.
    One "problem" I have is that the right click Context menu has the O underlined as the keyboard shortcut for both Open and Open in New Window, and clicking on the O 'opens" in neither case. (Other keyboard shortcuts still work.) But since I never used the keyboard shortcuts anyway, this is no loss for me. I really like being able to open Favorites in a New Window.
    P.S. FWIW--in all my Internet Shortcut\shell\***\command keys, the Default command ends with a number. (Print To has four numbers. %1, %2 ,etc.!)
    So HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\InternetShortcut\shell\open\comm
    has Default key = rundll32.exe shdocvw.dll,OpenURL %1
    I am not knowledgeable enough to know what the difference between %l and %1 should be. I always thought %1 at the end of a command meant to take action on a chosen file. Without it you would still issue the command but not related to a file.
     
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    Zander

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    Jim... Not that it matters but here's a simple solution to both of them using the same shortcut key. Rename the Open In New Window command. Maybe to something like Use New Window. U then becomes the shortcut key for it. ;)
     
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    Jim78418

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    I've been following this and have to say that with all the technical talk about the registry and l's and 1's I'm a bit confused as to what, if anything, I should try to resolve the issue I described in the beginning of this thread.

    Reading the entries leaves me to think that there may be a solution but we're not sure what it is.... is that an accurate summation of what I've read?

    In any case I feel honored that so many geeks and experts have reviewed this and for what should be such a simple thing turns out to be a challenge to those in the know.

    Hang in there folks.... This sure would make my life easier if I can get there from here.

    Thanks :D
     
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    Zander

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    I had to laugh when I read your last post. We did kind of forget about you, didn't we? I even had to go back and read your first post again. :D I don't know what the answer is for you. As a work around though, if you add the registry keys and data that Welshjim mentioned it may work for you to right click on the shortcut and select it in the menu. Evidently it didn't work completely for Newt but it does for me. Are you familiar with regedit. If so, open regedit and navigate to this key.

    HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\InternetShortcut\shell

    Right click on the shell folder and select new key. Name the key Open In New Window. Then right click on the one you just made and again select new key. Name this one Command. Next, left click on the command key and in the right pane, right click on "default" and choose modify. In the box that opens, copy and paste the following line.

    rundll32.exe shdocvw.dll,OpenURL %1

    Click Ok and that should do it (that's a lot of clicks isn't it? :) ). Now when you right click on one of the shortcuts in your links bar you can click on Open In New Window and hopefully it'll open the link in a new window. I know it's not really what your after but it's not a bad way of getting around the problem. ;) Let us know what you decide to to (we don't want to forget about you again). :D
     
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    Jim78418--Certainly sorry you felt left out. But Christer posted a suggestion in post #5 above and when you did not respond, I, for one, just assumed you had solved your problem.
     
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    Zander-- "New Window" works just like you said. Thanks. (Not that I ever use it. :D )
     
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    First of all, no one has bothered to change the title of this thead from "OE" to "IE ", and that is confusing. Second, the mysteries of the registry for Win 98 might as well be written in Greek, it's all over my head. Third- Control n opens a new window, and being averse to messing in the registry, that works for me! However, once again, I have learned a couple of things along the way, and I really appreciate the way you all freely share what you know. I think I pick up more from the BBS than my classes! :D

    Johanna
     
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    Welshjim

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    Opening IE with new window

    Johanna--Of course you are correct. Jim78418 should be made to grovel for at least 30 minutes for misnaming this whole thing. Serves him right that we all ignored him. :D
    But he got you to click, right?
    Now, are you saying you can open a Favorite in a new window by clicking Control+N? I sure cannot. But now with the Registry tweak, I can. One of the best tweaks I have come across in years. ;)
     
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    Zander

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    There's no way I've been able to open a favorite using ctrl>n either. Ctrl>n works to open a new window but it'll always be the same as the window that was open at the time I used ctrl>n. Perhaps there's a bit of a misunderstanding here????
     
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    yes, misunderstanding. any favorites or history link i right click on, whether in a folder or not, has the option to open in a new window. I have never done a registry tweak to have this key. Control n always opens a duplicate window, so if i figure first page will vanish, control n ensures that the link i click on leaves my original page on the taskbar, or, by resizing the window, side by side.:confused: :confused:
    "reuse windows" is ticked in tools, ie options, and most of the time, links on webpages open in different windows. if they don't, back button>control n and click on the link. It has always been this way for me with XP Pro, through more than a dozen reinstalls, so i didn't understand why the reg tweaking was needed. I don't know much at all about 98. I have never tweaked to have this option, and just took it for granted that you could right click any bookmark to a new window. i'm still confused. excuse my typing tonight- one of the pins is bleeding, so i have to keep the arm elevated with ice. the shift key suffers.

    Johanna
     
  14. 2004/02/01
    Zander

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    With the history and any link on any web page I've always had the right click>open in new window option. It's only the shortcuts in my favorites that never had the option. Whether they were in the links toolbar or not. Shortcuts on my desktop or in a folder somewhere never had the option either. They do now but it's not really necessary for them as they always open in a new window anyway. Perhaps it's a conspiracy amongst MS programmers to keep us all confused. :)
     
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    Johanna

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    Zander-
    We both use XP Pro- why do I have "open in new window" available in my favorites? I have never tweaked to put it there! Now I have to visit some other XP comps and see if they have the option...:confused:
    I believe in conspiracies, but this one sounds more like a fluke, and because I am a obsessed tweaker, I wanna know WHY??

    Johanna
     
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    I'm using Home and never had the option either.(Do now! :D ) And as Zander noted, they open maximized, which I don't understand either but I like it!
     
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    Zander

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    I don't know what to tell you other than to chalk it up to one of those MS software gliches. I don't know which way it's supposed to be by default either. I've only got one XP computer here. Maybe I'll have to take a look a Win98 and see what happens there.

    I did however, think of a couple possibilities that I thought might get the links to open in a new window when you just click on them. However, on each attempt I got shot out of the saddle in a hurry. If somebody else wants to try, here's what I did. My first thought was maybe unchecking Use DDE in the file types dialog. This used to work for me in Win98 when clicking on a hyperlink in OE. If Use DDE was checked and I had an IE window open, everytime I clicked on a hyperlink in OE it would open the page in the IE window that was currently open. If I unchecked it, it would open a new window for each hyperlink. Open any Explorer window, click tools>folder options>file types. In XP click on Internet Shortcut and then on the advanced button. Click open to highlight it and then click edit. Uncheck Use DDE. I don't know if this will work or not because everytime I unchecked it and closed everything, windows would set it back the way it was. It wouldn't stay unchecked.

    My next thought was being that right clicking on the shortcut and choosing open in new window worked, I'd just set that to the default action for internet shortcuts. You can do this in the file type dialog too. It didn't work for me though. After doing this, left clicking on a favorite still opened it in the same window. Something wasn't quite right though because when I right clicked on a favorite, Open was still in bold letters instead of Open In New Window. Right clicking and choosing Open in New Window still worked as it should. I went back and checked in file types and Open In New Window still showed as being the default action. So.... at this point I really have no idea. Funny thing is, both actions in the file types show the same command line. You'd think they'd both do the same thing.
     
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    At church today, checked the server, running XP Home. There is no "open in new window" option when right clicking a favorite, or a link from a web page in IE. Hmmm... Didn't really have time to check all the settings, but I will play with that comp this week. Stopped at my Mom's (new HP OEM XP Home) no right click open in new window there either. M y mother said "Who cares? You can only read one page at a time anyway!" (Some people do not understand why anyone would be fascinated by a computer-uh, mom uses the word "obsessed ") Decided to send her a malicious virus, but then scratched that off my list because when something goes wrong on her computer, she calls the "Obsessed One" to fix it. Hmmph. Not nice to make fun of someone and then expect them to help, now, is it?

    I am positive I never tweaked that feature into my IE, so I want to check other XP pro comps. In more than two years and a dozen reinstalls, it has always been that way. My XP cd is a Corporate Edition, but AFAIK, there are no differences between it and regular retail versions except that I don't need to use WPA. :confused: :confused: :confused:

    Curious to know what other XP pro comps do by default...

    Johanna
     
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