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Clever Boot CD

Discussion in 'Legacy Windows' started by merlin, 2003/12/29.

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  1. 2003/12/29
    merlin

    merlin Inactive Thread Starter

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    Hi all, I quite often get a call from a distressed/puzzled/helpless
    PC user; sometimes they are not even able to boot at all.
    As they mostly all have a CD ROM drive, I made a bootable CD (Win98SE), to take with me when I go to them and try to solve their problems.
    So I have about 600 mega free on the CD on to which I would
    copy some useful help/diagnostic apps to help solve their
    problems.
    My question is - what would you recommend putting on the CD, and why ?
    I can then add your tips to the CD that already has my own ideas on it. I will do a directory list of the disk when it is completed,
    and post it here so that you all can benefit.
    regards
     
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    broni

    broni Moderator Malware Analyst

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    Two part article from Fred Langa, found HERE , should cover all your bases.
     

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    markp62

    markp62 Geek Member Alumni

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    Spybot - Spy/Adware seems to be a common problem.
     
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    TonyT

    TonyT SuperGeek Staff

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    I too have a custom made boot CD based upon Bart's. http://www.nu2.nu/bootcd/
    It runs entirely in a ram drive.
    Almost all apps are freeware DOS apps.
    Here's the contents:

    aida
    AVG
    DBD_AICO (for DOS GUI)
    f-prot
    A.BAT
    AIDA.EXE
    AIDA.HIS
    AIDA.URL
    ASM.BAT
    ATTRIB.EXE
    AUTORUN.BAT
    CHKDSK.EXE
    CHOICE.COM
    CMOS.COM
    DBD.BAT
    DELTREE.EXE
    DESKTOP2.DOC
    DESKTOP2.EXE
    DISKCOPY.COM
    DISKEMU.CMD
    DOSKEY.COM
    EDIT.COM
    EINSTELL.DB2
    ELBOOT.IMG
    EXTRACT.EXE
    FDISK.EXE
    FILE_ID.DIZ
    FORMAT.COM
    gdisk.exe
    GHOST.EXE
    HGRPDSK.DG2
    MBRWORK.EXE
    MEM.EXE
    MENU.BAT
    MORE.COM
    MOUSE.COM
    MSCDEX.EXE
    NTFSDOS.EXE
    PMHELP.DAT
    PQDATA.002
    PQMAGIC.EXE
    PQMAGIC.OVL
    PQMAGIC.PIF
    PQMAGIC.PQG
    PRESIZER.EXE
    RESOURCE.DB2
    RESTART.COM
    SCANDISK.EXE
    SMARTDRV.EXE
    SN.TXT
    SRCBOOT.COM
    SRCFAT.COM
    SRCMBR.COM
    SYS.COM
    WAIT.COM
    WDe.com
    WDE.TXT
    XCOPY.EXE
    XXCOPY16.EXE
    zABOUT.PQG
     
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    TonyT

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    merlin

    merlin Inactive Thread Starter

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    Thanks for the great suggestions and links.
    Many ideas that hadn't occurred to me.
    I can direct the boot-up to load Windows from (say) C: drive.
    But what if the C: OS Data is corrupted and Windows will not load ?
    I wonder if a small-as-possible Win98 OS on the CD would be an
    idea ? I reckon you can get one running inside 300 mega from
    the CD which would still leave many mega for the apps you
    suggest.
    regards
     
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    TonyT

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    merlin Inactive Thread Starter

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    Hi all. TonyT's link gave me a 404.
    PE Builder is for 2000/XP, I have 98SE - do not know if this
    is a problem to creating the CD - maybe PE-builder wants to pull
    stuff of my 98 OS ?
    The Fred Langa pages only deal with creating useable floppies -
    I cannot find the "follow-up" page he mentions regarding bootable CD ROMS. I have a free app called "Emergency Boot CD-ROM" (18 mega :rolleyes: ) but it does not unpack correctly.
    Thanks for the tips.
    regards
     
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    merlin

    merlin Inactive Thread Starter

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    Hi all, I have had to give up the idea of a bootable CD-Rom,
    since no-one seems sure how to make one.
    So now I carry a floppy that enables access to a CD.
    On the CD I have more or less, all your suggestions.
    If I boot from the floppy (with CD D:\ support), and Win98SE
    is installed on the CD, do you think the command
    D:\win
    will load Windows OS ?
    regards
     
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    DugE

    DugE Well-Known Member

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    Hi Merlin -- you can find Langa's part two here:

    http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=10818064

    He describes making a bootable cd using Nero and Roxio. I had neither but made one using the software that came with my cdrw. The key is writing an image of the floppy to the cd, not copying the files to the cd. After the image is burned you can copy all the necessary files to the cd and not overwrite the image.

    Hope this helps.
     
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    TonyT

    TonyT SuperGeek Staff

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    I will upload my custom boot CD iso.
    Send me a PM if you are interested.

    Some apps custom apps like Drivewipe are disabled, but all others function properly.
     
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    merlin

    merlin Inactive Thread Starter

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    Thanks to all !
    Tony - pm sent 31/12/2004.
    Dopey - thanks for the link - I am going there now ....
    regards and good luck and health 2004
     
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    broni

    broni Moderator Malware Analyst

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    Merlin
    Part II of Langa's article HERE
     
  15. 2004/01/01
    merlin

    merlin Inactive Thread Starter

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    Had a struggle to DL Tony's iso (needed DL manager to complete)and also with Nero burn, but now I am a user of Tony's excellent Boot CD.
    I am now copying the Tony/CDR Nero created to a CDRW - do you think it will boot and still allow me to add stuff to it ....? Will report ..
    regards and thanks TonyT
    PS Had some problems in the pm area - has the board glitches
    in saving replies to pm ?
     
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    TonyT

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    I have pulled my bootCD off of my server because some of the apps on it are apps that require registration and are not freeware. I do not wish to involve myself with copyright infringements and software piracy.

    Anyway, Bart's is back online, use my links above. Making a bootCD is easy using his apps and methods.
     
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    merlin

    merlin Inactive Thread Starter

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    I had a look at burning the ISO to CD-RW but Nero created a CD-R
    - and a bad one at that. I do not understand TonyT's worries as
    there is only free stuff in the iso file - the known names like AVG
    and FProt are ancient anyway and cannot be updated on the CD.
    A useful CD for booting is still on my "to do" list, and I will keep in
    touch with you all.
    regards
     
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    TonyT

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    The Norton Ghost and gdisk on my CD was created with my purchased version of Norton Ghost 2003, a $70.00 registered program. Not sure if that Partition Magic is still freeware either, but better safe than sorry.
     
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    merlin

    merlin Inactive Thread Starter

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    I said I would update you all on my progress with making a bootable CD, so here's where I am at the moment ... free SW at ...
    Ultimate Boot CD

    Gives a great basis. It's also great in size - 56 mega zip !
    Combines many DOS based apps into an .iso file for burning with
    eg Nero or Easy CD Creator. Menu based, but if you choose a tool
    from the menu, you have to reboot to get back to the main menu.
    I do not see a way round this as the app creates a series
    of boot floppy images in RAM.
    I have found it essential to have an iso file editor to customise
    the iso file - so I am using WinIso 5.3 which works fine and allows
    me to add new directories and files to the iso image before
    burning it to your CDR. I reckon I will have to update monthly or
    so as I put f-prot for DOS on the CD and the definitions will need
    updating. This means a new CD and a new burn but its pretty cheap and quick to do.
    With the correct BIOS boot sequence, it boots fine.
    The boot CD is about 150 mega - including the original iso zip file
    which I added to the iso ;)
    regards
     
  20. 2004/01/12
    TonyT

    TonyT SuperGeek Staff

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    Sounds good.
    Man, you're goin down that road of:

    wife: come to bed dear.
    husband: not yet honey, I'm almost finished.

    3 weeks later:
    husband: I'm almost finished.

    6 weeks later:
    husband: sleeps on sofa...
     
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