Booting problem

On the above from the bootlog.txt, the file name is missing. Was there one?

 

I just copied and pasted the line that said failed...that is the complete line.

 

Yankee - you've had a mess with this for sure. I'm no HijackThis log expert by any means but nothing in yours jumps out at me except that in general you seem to have a pretty clean system.

A couple of things for you to try. May not 'cure' your problem but then again, they may. Worst that will happen is your system will operate a little better.

In Windows Explorer, look in c:\ and see if you have any files with names filennnn.chk where nnnn is any number so file0001.chk, file0002.chk, etc. You may have none or you may have hundreds. Get rid of them all. They are created when a scandisk runs and finds a problem and you elect to let it keep a record of what it found and what it did. These files are worthless to normal humans and just add to clutter in your drive root. If you get too many files directly under the drive ( c:\ ) your system will start acting funny and a few more will break it.

Boot up to DOS (command prompt only). Don't open a DOS window or any of that but force it to only load as far as a command prompt. Then do the following - and several of them may take a while so be patient. Best done in this order too.

scanreg /fix and ENTER (corrects any registry problems since they can cause all sorts of strange happenings).
scanreg /opt and ENTER (gets rid of empty space in the registry. When you remove stuff like programs, their entries are removed but the hole they occupied is left there. This neatens things up).

Now restart your computer with the Windows Me floppy boot disk, and select Minimal boot. When it's up and running:

scandisk /all /autofix /nosave /surface and ENTER. Forces a complete scan of all drives including files and the drive surface itself.

Now remove the floppy, reboot, and see what happens.

 

Geat idea Newt thanks for hoping over
Yakee let us know if you have any questions

When exactly does this happen ,during bootup or before the desktop loads or after ? and any error messages

Its been suggested to me to ask if you can boot to safe mode with no problems/errors and also no problems restarting from there ?
I know you have mentioned using safe mode, But we need to know.

Lonny

 

Thanks Newt...

I tried searching for *.chk, wouldn't that find any rather than go through numbers up to thousands which would take all day? It didn't find any .chk files.

Windows ME does not have DOS and cannot be booted to DOS....I don't know any DOS anyway...and would just foul it up as I don't know anything about it.

Thanks for all the suggestions but I think this is just something I will have to just put up with. I was hoping I would not have to do a System Recovery but it may be the only solution so rather than do that I will probably just put up with the annoyance.

Thanks for all the suggestions and help...it is probably beyond my expertise which is minimal.

Hope you all have happy holidays...and thanks again!!

 

Lonny...

It happens when I turn the computer on. It boots just to the wallpaper and then hangs.

I try C+A+D to restart but always get the BSOD which says the system is busy and to press any key to continue, or to use C+A+D to restart...of course this *never works and I have to do a forced shutdown.

Yes, I can boot into safe mode...I had to do that to run scandisk when it froze after the forced shutdown and reboot.

No error messages besides the BSOD.

 

Newt...
PS:

Windows ME does not have DOS but it does have a DOS prompt which I can get by Clicking Start/ Run/ command.
But evidently spaces are important and I never know where to put one and always get *bad command*.

Is there a space after scan reg, and is there a space after scandisk?

I thought maybe I would try it as I figure the computer is messed up already and all I would do is mess it up some more...

If I use the start up disk and mess it up and couldn't get back into Windows I wouldn't be able to let you know as I would be without a computer. Or, on second thought, I could use my backup 98 se computer to let you know...

 

Newt...

I tried the DOS prompt and the boot disk, too.

It worked!

The scan disk found no problems and there were no bad clusters.

Is using the boot disk better than running a thorough scan with the Windows scandisk?
If it is, maybe I will follow this same procedure with my backup computer that has 98SE on it. Using the 98SE boot disk, of course.

It took about 3 hours and 45 minutes to run the scan...is that normal?

I used C+A+D to restart the computer after I removed the disk and it booted OK. Whether it will boot normally tomorrow morning remains to be seen...

Thanks for your help and have a good holiday!!

 

On windows ME
You can run scanreg /fix and opt through a ms dos prompt, in windows.
but its better to start the pc with a startup disk, at the selective startup screen choose minimul boot ,change to C
type C:/ press enter first.


"Is using the boot disk better than running a thorough scan with the Windows scandisk?
If it is, maybe I will follow this same procedure with my backup computer that has 98SE on it. Using the 98SE boot disk, of course. "

Yes,, but I cant explain why this is so.
remember though choose minimul boot on win me and command prompt win 98 ( I may be mistaken, never had win 98)
when booting from the startup disk..

It sounds like scanreg fix and opt helped and you havent seen the freeze at the desktop yet ?

Lonny

 

Just a reach, but this could be something simple like a bad sound file, such as The Microsoft Sound on windows startup. Look in Control Panel\Sounds, look for a sound event for Start Windows.

 

I am Not an expert with hijackthis log.s

the only thing I see that need fixing is
place a check nect to this close all IEs and other window then hit fix

O16 - DPF: {FA13A9FA-CA9B-11D2-9780-00104B242EA3} (WT Class) - http://install.wildtangent.com/bgn/...kII/install.cab

=====
these are optional
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar = http://srch-us2.hpwis.com
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://start.earthlink.net/
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar = http://srch-us2.hpwis.com
O14 - IERESET.INF: START_PAGE_URL=http://hp.my.yahoo.com
=========

and Go to the link I posted "pacs portal ".. learn to stop unesseary thing from starting with windows
===
also If you dont use the search and internet buttns on your keybourd.. I dont.. go into control panel ,keybourd ,keybourd manager. and uncheck use multy media, click apply..
then go start run type msconfig and hit enter.
then go to the startup panel .. uncheck

MMKeybd.exe RunServices [Keyboard Manager]
then hit apply and OK windows will prompt to reboot.. let it, once in windows msconfig with give a message that your using seletive startup,, place a tick next to dont show this again and OK

then create shortcut to osd.exe
(this is the onscreen display for valume controls)
Put it in the startup folder..
"C:\Program Files\Netropa\Onscreen Display\osd.exe"


anyway, win me doesnt need these and unchecking save lots of resources

Regards
Lonny

 

I don't know what you mean. What is a sound event? I looked in sounds but I have no idea what I am supposed to be looking for...nothing there says sound event????

 

I am completely lost on this last hijack thing!! I don't understand any of it. It says close IE...I never use IE!!
As for the rest of it, I wouldn't dare even think about trying it as I don't understand a word of it.

I always use selective startup...I uncheck everything that is not necessary and start with 83% resources...of course being WinME they deplete quickly so I use Memory Boost from Rose City...but I add that after I bootup and it is not included in the startup.

Why would I want a shortcut to osd on my desktop? I don't want any volume controls on my desktop??????? I press a button on my keyboard to adjust the volume. And I don't show vol. control in the systray either as it isn't necessary.

I am probably confusing you as much as I am confused at this point.

 

" "I am probably confusing you as much as I am confused at this point." "

Yes you are,, But thats OK I'm usually confused..
later read again my last post.
I had thought you didnt know anything about msconfig..I sure wish you had said something ,, that way I wouldnt have to explain all the basics

No need to use hijackthis again,, the only bad thing I saw was an active x control,, no bid deal..especaily since you rarely use it (internet explorer)

windows me is rather particular if the startup and shutdown sounds get corrupted it has problems..
Its a long shot that this could be whats going on, but defiantly worth checking,,, go into control panel>sounds and multimedia and check and change start windows and exit windows,, change them both even if they work,, apply ,OK .. restart windows..

Here is a link that might prove usefull
Windows Shutdown Troubleshooter: http://aumha.org/win4/a/shutdown.htm


You didn't answer yet..!
It sounds like scanreg fix and opt helped and you haven't seen the freeze at the desktop yet ?
regards
Lonny

 

Change both sounds???? Change them both to what????????

The only sound problem I have is I keep losing the sound when disconnecting the internet connection, and I have to keep resetting it.

I still don't know what you mean by "look for a sound event ". What is a sound event and what does it look like...?

That article mainly addresses Shutdown problems...I have a Startup and a Restart problem. I use Shutz to shut down and it is excellent....no problems.

I have only rebooted once so it is too early to tell if the problem is fixed.

Thanks,

 

OK
"I have only rebooted once so it is too early to tell if the problem is fixed. "
dont know how you manage that I usualy reboot several times a day... why not restart two three times to see if you have any problems .. ?

If you still have problems try these suggestions and report back

change the startup and shutdown sounds even if you dont think this is it
Im well aware that link seams to be all about shut down problems not startup problems

Once there test them by hitting the little arrow,, to change them
hit the browse button,, there will be lots to choos from or should be right there.test and change both "start windows" and
"exit windows "

anyway yankee stick with and will figure this out one way or another.
Lonny

 

You said:

then create shortcut to osd.exe
(this is the onscreen display for valume controls)
Put it in the startup folder..
"C:\Program Files\Netropa\Onscreen Display\osd.exe "


Why?? I don't know where it is anyway, so can't make a shortcut, and why would I want a shortcut on my desktop???? I don't want a volume display on my desktop!

 

In addition to above...I don't have a *startup* folder.

Also, changing sounds was not a good thing to do as it caused my computer to keep freezing until I changed them back.

BTW...why do you bootup so often?? I thought that wasn't a good thing to do to the HD?????

Just curious....

 

WinME sounds events step by step

 

Mark62

I had already gone there in the control panel, but changing the sounds caused my computer to keep freezing and I had to change them back to what they were before...

Thanks....