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Discussion in 'PC Hardware' started by SteveS, 2003/12/19.

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    SteveS

    SteveS Inactive Thread Starter

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    i have a IDE HD connected too IDE1 i have 2 CD drives connected to IDE2, i also have a SATA connected to SATA port0 on the motherboard.

    when i boot up from off it says.
    testing memory... does that...

    then it freezes, if i restart it getsdoes the testing memory again then DOSNT free and goes on to say;
    Detecting IDE drives..

    shows my hd in IDE1 and then my SATA drive.

    if i restart from windows its fine. only when the computers turned on from being idol it messes up..

    now when i unplug my SATA drive it works fine, so its something 2 do with the sata drive any idea?
     
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    Rockster2U

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    You didn't say what kind but I'd suggest you head to your MB mfg's website and check out FAQ's or read the manual section on this for an accurate answer.

    I'm running a 36gig SATA drive along with 4 IDE Hard drives and my Primary on first IDE header is disabled when SATA is enabled. My setup is a little different because I have a RAID board with 4 IDE headers and run my other Hard Drives off 3 & 4. Regardless, what you are experiencing shouldn't be (duh) and the best answer is already going to be documented by your Motherboard mfg.

    ;)
     

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    SteveS

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    its a gigabyte GA-8iG1000 board, i checked the site but found nothing, iv emailed then and got nothing.. so i came on here to see if i could get some idea of the problem. :)
     
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    giles

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    Hi SteveS.

    Gigabyte doesn't list a gi8-1000 motherboard. The nearest thing I could find was the GA-8iG1000 motherboard.

    Checking around the Gigabyte site I ran across this:

    http://www.giga-byte.com/Motherboard/Support/BIOS/BIOS_GA-8IG1000.htm

    It appears that they had a problem with the GA-8iG1000 motherboard detecting the SATA drive and came out with a new bios. The lastest one is the F8a(Bate) which says "Fixed SATA HDD detection issue ".

    Check your bios and if it isn't upgraded to this version you might download and install it. Might fix the problem. You can usually check the current bios installed by looking at the bottom of the screen on turn-on and note the last number letter combination at the end. Sometimes the screen won't light up enough to let you catch it before something else is displayed. In this case, just hit the "Pause/Break" key quickly on turn-on. It will pause the boot up process and hitting any key will continue the boot up process. Most bios will also list the bios version somewheres in the bios. Just go into the bios and look around the screen.

    You have to be careful to check that your motherboard is actually the GA-8iG1000. If not try and find the corresponding listing at Gigabyte and check the bios notes.

    DON'T INSTALL A NEW BIOS UNTIL YOU KNOW IT IS FOR YOUR PARTICULAR MOTHERBOARD!!

    Hope this helps.

    Giles
     
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    SteveS

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    yeah sorry, call me stupid, thats my board! lollllllll! my bad.

    anyway i did actually upgrade the bios with that version 1st thing i did, dont know why really.
    i then put it back to the f7 version which dosnt detect the sata drive,
    the new version which you just quoted detects the sata drive but not without this problem im having. mayb theres something wrong with that bios version too.
     
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    giles

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    Hi.

    Yes, absolutely. Your assumptions are probably 100% correct. You're in bios limbo right now.

    The F8a(Bate) is a Beta version and a final F8 version should be out one day. There probably arn't too many using the SATA ports on that particular motherboard so Gigabyte won't be too much of a hurry to get it done. I would pepper them with emails, about 5 a week, and see if you can get them to get on with it.

    In the meantime try plugging the sata into the second sata port or jumpering the IDE drive to slave. The system should boot from there ok with no changes in the bios. More than likely the signals from the SATA and the IDE are being intermingled and the system is doing dumb stuff. Separating them won't correct the problem but it might bypass it. Also, try putting the CDs on IDE-0 and switch the hdd to IDE-1. You might have to change the bootup sequence in the bios for that. It shouldn't change the hdd speed and you should be able to boot ok. This might not work because you have to change the drive letter to C for the new position of the C drive and you can't do that unless you boot and it probably won't boot until the drive letter is changed to C. Catch-22.

    You might consider giving F6 bios a try also. If your SATA has an IDE capability you might go ahead and put it as slave on IDE-0 until the F8 bios is finished. It'll run at the speed of the current hdd but may be acceptable for a time.

    The only other solution I can think of is to multi boot until the new F8 is out.

    Giles
     
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    SteveS

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    when u say multi boot what do u mean? automaticly or by me .lol

    also my sata drive only has the sata option.

    i might give it ago as a slave tho.

    ill also keep emailing gigabyte from outlook, save and fwd method. lol! get them 2 get a move on!

    shame its not something simple!
     
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    Hi.

    Multi-boot = what you have to do now to get up and working.

    If you haven't already, you might set the bios as all automatically detect on the hdds then try them with all the parameters plugged in. Might make a difference in the detection process.

    Looks like you've pretty much pinned everything down. I can't think of any other options to try.

    Hopefully Gigabyte will come across soon.

    Giles
     
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    SteveS

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    i tried settin them manually, dosnt work.

    i think its a bios thing which i cant change, i guess it must be if they have updated the bios!

    cheers for the help!
     
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    SteveS

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    i cannot understand why it doesnt work from a cold boot but does when it hangs then i restart.

    surly its doing the same thing! so why does it work 2nd time!
     
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