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Save as in file on Windows 98

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    Sandi

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    Save as - when reopened has long list of related nd non-related notes below saved document and format of document has been changed from original.
     
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    Your going to have to be much more specific than this. The "save as" command is in every application you open and the options vary. What did you do, what did you do it with, and what do you want to do now?
     

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    Sandi

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    Windows 98 help

    Hi Ann, thank you for your response. When ever I complete a document and go to "file" - drop down - "save as" and I save it in Documents it completes the action, however when I open my documents to retrieve it - the document's format has changed from what I originally saved - the font has been reduced to 10 - following the document is about two pages of words - some are taken from my document some do not seem to be associated.
    i.e.
    PAGE
    PAGE
    Normal
    Normal
    Default Paragraph Font
    Default Paragraph font
    Body Text
    Body Text
    Footer
    Footer
    - - - - and on and on. This happens when I save the document on a disk as well. It is always in Win 98 "file" "save as" in documents or disk. I am not very savvy in computers, just basic use. Hope this will help you understand my problem. Thank you Sandi
     
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    I think you are in MS Winword here ?
    In the "Save As" window what do you have or input for a file type ? It should be .doc
    If not, Winword will likely try store your texts and then all it's
    control parameters such as you list as part of the document.
    regards
     
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    Hi again Sandi,

    It sounds like your including the html code with your doc. I need you to give me a sep by step, blow by blow description of what you are doing. Recreate the whole process being as specific as you can.

    Specifics to include.........
    We need to know what application [word processor] and what version you are using to open these docs in. What application [word processor] and what version these docs where originally written in [where they came from/what was there extension or the three letters they ended with after the period]? What word processors do you have available to you.?
    *NOTE*Win98 is not an application/program it is your "operating system.

    Examples:
    win98 standard Wordpad
    MS Office Winword [version, 98, 2000, XP, 2003 etc]
    Corels Word [version....]
    Other

    And.. when you say you use the "Save As" option using the Drop Down choices [to choose your format for the save], what are you saving these as?

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    The format [=fonts, colors, images, spacing, tabs etc] for a document can/will be effected by the word processor it was written in, the word processor it is opened in and if saving, the format you choose to save it in.

    Versions play a large part also. Some of the older versions can not open the newer versioned documents and vice-versa, and when they can, they will require the proper converting filters to do so. The document formating can be retained, lost or changed dependant upon all these factors.
     
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    Sandi

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    "Save as" problem

    I compile my information(document) in Windows. (The Blue W in white square is what I open to use the document window. It opens to "Doc 1" in Microsoft Word.) Whan I am ready to save the completed work I go to "file" in upper left corner and left click. I get a drop down w/ "new" "open" "close" "save" "save as" etc. I left click on "save as ". The box w/all of my saved documents opens w/ a drop down at the top w/ "my documnents" in that section. I go to bottom of the whole document box to "file name" and name my document. I then left click on "save" under the "word document" just below the file name box at the bottom. I have used this routine without any problems prior to about two months ago. So I have somehow done something to change the response. How can I correct this? I would welcome a phone call to talk/walk me through the steps of correcting it. Anyone willing to help me in this manner? Thanx Sandi
     
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    To make sure this isn't something you've set in the options, let's try to make a new doc and save it using a switch to open word with default factory user settings.

    This is just temporary and word will revert to using your currrent settings afterwards.

    Making the assumption that winword.exe is in the folder as shown.........if not the path below will have to be changed to reflect where your winword.exe is located.
    copy and paste bolded text on your runline via the start button>run line

    "C:\PROGRAMFILES\MICROSOFTOFFICE\OFFICE\WINWORD.EXE" /A

    Word should open with options set back to the original "first time use" settings.

    Make a doc, save it, close it, open it.

    Could also try opening one of the other docs giving you problems but if the format for this is set it will still open as it was saved and will still reflect the stuff you don't want.

    Just remember not to close word after opening it. If you do just open it again with the /A switch, as instructed by the bolded text command line.

    Not using the /A switch will open with your current options in tact [as opposed to factory defaults].

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    If I was unclear or my explanation leaned toward scatter_brained just give a shout and I'll try to organize these thoughts into a form that may make more sense.

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    If problem can be fixed by the above procedure, you'll need to do a file find for "Normal.dot" and rename it to something like "oldnormal.dot" or "normal.xxx ". Open winword and try her out again.
     
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    Ann, thank you for your patience with me. I am not sure you got my request to try to handle this by phone or not. If you are willing to do that send a number and I will call from here. I am in Tulsa, Ok.
    I followed your instructions and did not get past the "run" I placed the address in the run line and hit go or whatever it says and I got a pop up that said that file could not be found (or one of its components) and to make sure the path and file name are correct and that all required libraries are available. So I never did get in far enough to find the window with the option to set back to original "first time use" settings. I went into the files and placed the entire address you gave me as well as portions of it in different ways and could not find the WINWORD or the WINWORD.EXE/A.

    Thanx Sandi
     
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    Quick!!! Take your phone numbers out of the post. Informatiom such as this should be given through a private email.
     
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    click edit on that post and delete the numbers then save changes.

    DANGEROUS!! All kinds of weirdos out there!
     
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    :rolleyes: Thank you all for your well taken warning. I think I was successful in the removal the second time. Thank you so very much. ANd thank you Ann for spending a very long time trying to take care of the "save as" problem in my Word documents. It did not change anything, still have the problem. Sandi
     
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    Darn it,

    I had my fingers crossed. Guess I should have crossed my toes, too.

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    To update other members so far the normal.dot has been replaced, We walked through her MSWord [office 2000] options and she has the exact options as myself [which are basically factory defaults with a minor adjustment here and there]. We tried an "office repair" and that produced a big, fat no_joy. She is saving these as *.doc and as Type "word document" (*.doc). It makes no difference whether she opens an existing doc or writes a new doc and saves it. The results are the same.

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    I think I'm going to have her send me one of these doc_critters. Maybe that will provide a clue as to what is going on.
     
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    Yeah! The problem is solved.

    Through email correspondence and an using example of an effected document, I was able to track down the problem and fix.

    Here's an exact example of the problem and the lead to the fix:

    google

    And a better description of the problem and fix is:
    http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/AppErrors/RecoverText.htm

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    She applied the fix as instructed and the problem was solved. She sends her abundant thanks and is now a help-net fan.

    Ignore below.............
    ===CopyNpaste nfo- in case links die out===========
    Whenever I open a document using File Open all my formatting is gone, and there is garbage at the end

    But the document looks fine if I open it from the list at the bottom of the File menu or double-click on it in Windows Explorer

    Article contributed by Suzanne S. Barnhill

    Almost certainly, the "Files of type" setting in your File Open dialog has been changed to "Recover Text from Any File." If you will set it back to "Word Documents," you will find that your document is fine (providing you haven't saved it in its "funny" state). The "Recover Text from Any File" option is a useful one in many ways. In addition to its intended use to salvage text from a damaged document, this setting allows you to get a sort of peek "behind the curtain" to see how Word documents are formatted (very different from WordPerfect documents with their inline codes). And you can find near the end a list of the styles and fonts used in the document, which can be useful information. But it's easy to forget that the "Files of type" setting is "sticky," even between Word sessions, so you have to be careful to remember to reset it after using a different setting to open a file.

    If you are the sole user of your computer and don't think you have suffered any memory blackouts, you may wonder how the file type got set to "Recover Text from Any File" in the first place. This sometimes happens when you try to open a file from another application. If you do not have "Confirm conversion at open" checked on the General tab of Tools | Options, Word will not ask you which converter to use for the file. If none of Word's other converters work, Word will default to "Recover Text from Any File" in an attempt to open the file.


    *Open "MSWord "
    *From the toolbar select the button "File" -> "Open "
    *From the popup, make sure the "type_in field" entitled "Files of type" is set to "word documents (*.doc)" and not "recover text from any file *.* "
    *Open a doc, make an edit an save it again making sure the "Files of Type" type-in field is set to word documents (*.doc).

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    I don't think I would have ever figured this out without seeing what she was talking about and should she return to this particular post:

    You are most welcome, sandi. :D
     
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